Friday, November 09, 2018

Four For Friday - Like Father Like Son

Back in the day there was a franchise. They didn't really call them franchises back then, they would just roll off a bunch of sequels until people stopped buying tickets. I'm actually a little surprised with the lack of creativity in Hollywood that no one has tried to revive this particular franchise. Maybe it is because of what happened during the final installment. Our actor was a huge star. He had already won an Academy Award. He is a celebrity offspring of someone arguably more famous. Anyway, our actor was filming this movie and was drinking as he often did at that time. He went down to the bar in his hotel which was known for local women who had regular jobs but would supplement it by meeting with men staying at the hotel. Our actor picked up a woman and brought her upstairs to the room. He then had very violent sex with her and she ended up having a seizure while he was choking her and she died. Well, our actor freaked out, but apparently during the filming he had been paying so many bribes that he knew all he would probably have to do is pay a bribe. He actually ended up getting the police to help him get rid of the body in the hotel room. They did whatever they do in that situation and he never heard of it again. The crazy thing is, he used to be proud of this story and told it regularly. He stopped telling it about twenty years ago but it was one of his favorite go to tales of being an actor and having adventures.

60 comments:

Tricia13 said...

Peter Fonda?

sandybrook said...

Kirk Douglas and Michael?

sandybrook said...

Changing to Chris Lemmon

OB said...

Michael Douglas

The "Romancing the Stone" group of movies

Apple apparently doesn't fall far from the tree

GigiIsMeme said...

+1
My exact thought

Unknown said...

It wasnt a franchise though. One hit and one middling sequel isn’t a franchise.

Anonymous said...

+1 for Michael Douglas

Brayson87 said...

Yeah only two movies. Also I think it's debatable as to whether Kirk or Michael are more famous.

omfg said...

+1 michael Douglas....was war of the roses sort of a sequel to romancing the stone and jewel of the Nile?

Brayson87 said...

Yeah right, "a seizure while he was choking her" or maybe he just strangled her.

yepthatsme said...

Basic Instinct for the franchise?

Jackie - said...

Sounds like there were more than two films to me too.

Dorvannnn said...

John Huston played the Lawgiver in Battle for the Planet of the Apes-the last sequel to the orginal Planet of the Apes movies. He won two Oscars in 1948 for The Treasure of Sierra madre.
His father Walter was a legendary actor.

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sandybrook said...

I'd stick with the Douglases too, Kirk was a piece of shit, Michael was a sexoholic.
With the Lemmons, Jack was a drunk and Chris was in Thunder In Paradise movies with Hulk Hogan. Clearly Chris isnt as well known as Jack.

SDaly said...

Problem with the Huston guess is that they have re-booted the Planet of the Apes recently.

Jennifer said...

Michael Douglas popped into my head too!!

Lonely Bastard said...

If Michael Douglas then maybe the poison pussy pleasuring polyps were some sort of karmic revenge/

OB said...

I'm pretty sure there was supposed to be a third movie but they couldn't get a decent script

And Enty specifically said "not a franchise"

RTS was a huge hit, JotN less so but still made $$$

And "War of the Roses" was a completely different film with the same two stars that was successful but it turned off a lot of viewers with its bizarre story

It would be a perfect film for today's angry public

s.s. said...

From Catherine Zeta Jones Wikki page:

"Zeta-Jones met the actor Michael Douglas, with whom she shares a birthday and who is 25 years her senior, at the Deauville Film Festival in France in August 1998"

Almost exactly 20 years ago Douglas and Jones hooked up...

totaji said...

The problem with the Michael Douglas guess: During the period of Romancing the Stone, franchises were a thing. It’s gotta be older. Peter Fonda is a good guess.

Sara, Making It Work said...

@s.s., I like your thinking!

I also thought Michael Douglas. Goes right in line with the other stories told here.

Gator said...

Michael & Kirk Douglas. The old man was known for being a violent pig with women.

Lonely Bastard said...

@ Totaji.

But was Henry Fonda that much of a bastard? I know he was very outspoken on many things, but I've never heard stories about him a-rapin' and a-pillagin' his way through the the hordes of starlets in the Golden age, like Kirk.

Maybe he did and I just haven't heard the stories.

Unknown said...

Peter Fonda won an Oscar???

gauloise said...

I looked at all the best actor and supporting actor winners. the only one who is an Oscar winner from 20 years ago, offspring, and in a franchise is Douglas

Jed's Friend and Supporter said...

Michael Douglas dated Brenda Vaccaro for years. Has she ever said anything?

Jackie - said...

Morocco seems to be the location with regards to The Jewel in the Nile.

Dorvannnn said...

Mickey Roooney for the Andy Hardy films? The last one was filmed in 1958 and the films have never been rebooted. He is a celebrity offspring. Rooney won an Oscar in 1938.
His father Joe Yule was an actor famous for Jiggs and Maggie film series. I'm not sure Joe Yule is arguably more famous than Rooney though. Unless he meant at the time the attack occurred.

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Jackie - said...

The blind is called like father like son. So, it seems the father's known for being violent too.

Ouiser B. said...
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Ouiser B. said...

Hustons, Carridines, Douglasses, Fondas, Fairbanks, Redgraves...

Thoughts...

1. academy award winner - perhaps best supporting?

2. The parent is not mentioned as an actor, "He is a celebrity offspring of someone arguably more famous". Could be anything.

3. Before sequels so it's probably back to Westerns?

Ouiser B. said...

Trying for some outside the box ideas:

Peter Ustinov
Father: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jona_von_Ustinov
1964 Academy Award
Played Hercule Poirot in six Agatha Christie movies.

Liz Pop said...

Who was the woman? Didn't anyone report her missing?

Ouiser B. said...

Considered this one but doesn't seem a good fit

Joel Gray
Son of Mickey Katz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Katz
Academy Award for Cabaret
Was in a Buffalo Bill

(came out as gay later in life but did marry and parent two kids including Jennifer Grey)

Ouiser B. said...

Another possibility

Jason Robards Jr
Son of Jason Robards Sr, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Robards_Sr.
1976 Academy Award for All the President's Men, 1977 for Julia and others
longtime struggle with alcoholism
Series:
1. Wyatt Earp/Doc Holliday (Hour of the Gun)
2. the Lone Ranger (The Legend of the Lone Ranger)

Ouiser B. said...

Ohhh I found a good one:

Lionel Barrymore

1931 AA winner

Father: Maurice Barrymore, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Barrymore

Series: Doctor Kildare movies of the 30s and 40s, played Doctor Gillespie in nine Kildare films and in six Gillespie focused ones.

did a lot of coke due to injuries.

Father Maurice, a Broadway star who would do Vaudeville as well, was a trainer boxer once shot after a poker game, had a mental breakdown - ranting and violent enough to check him into Bellevue and several other mental health facilities. Issues were related to lingering effects of syphilis. Once got into a scuffle with one of the Bellevue attendants, he picked the man up over his head and threw him into a corner. Would die in one of the asylums.

Lionel took a fair amount of drugs to deal with chronic arthritis. There are varying accounts of his challenges early on though.

snaremymind said...

Poirot has been recently rebooted.

Freckles said...

David Carradine

Dorvannnn said...

David Carradine has never won an Oscar. His brother Keith did though.

Angela said...

Male actors with an Oscar and a famous father (from most recent to most ancient, then ditto for best supporting actor)
Jeff Bridges (Lloyd)
Sean Penn (Irving, photographer)
Daniel Day-Lewis (Cecil, poet)
Michael Douglas (Kirk)
Robert De Niro (Robert Sr, sculptor)
George Clooney (Nick, journalist)
Timothy Hutton (Jim)

hunter said...

"did a lot of coke due to injuries."

THAT'S NOT A THING.

Unless you apply the cocaine topically as a numbing agent I find this excuse pretty funny.

AbbyRock said...

Douglas-went from fame as actors to fame as scum bucket sexual assaulters (serial?)
Ugh and when Michael rhapsodizes over his father, vomit.

hothotheat said...

Just throwing this in....I worked at a hotel where Peter Fonda stayed for a few days years ago and he was an absolute sweerheart to me. I know it doesn't mean anything in relation to this blind but thought I'd share.

Ouiser B. said...

@hunter - literally that's what it said. That he had hollywood folks who got him coke to help him get through his scenes due to arthritis. Shrug.

Og said...

I'm actually thinking someone from the 40s, they used to make movies that were series and theyd pop out a lot of them

Lynn said...

Sean Penn's father was the director, Leo Penn. (Had to look it up because I knew it wasn't Irving Penn, the photographer.)

Angela said...

Yeah, sorry for that. Long before the Internet, there was some miscommunication over the oceans, and there were claims in Europe that Irving was his father.

Also Michael Douglas won an Oscar long before Wall Street. He was the producer to Fly Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Jason Robards was the son of Jason Robards, but Jason Sr was a bit player, and has never been as famous as his son.

Most signs actually point to Douglas, as he won an Oscar more than 20 years ago, and the site also made rape allegations against Kirk, but the only franchise-related thing Douglas was involved in was Romancing the Stone/The Jewel of the Nile. The Jewel of the Nile was a box office hit but felt stale, which was the number one reason for killing any sequel. Robert Zemeckis wasn't involved, Kathleen Turner initially turned down the part, because the script was bad. And it didn't prevent Douglas, Turner and DeVito to work again on The War of the Roses, as they were still friends after shooting Jewel.

Sara, Making It Work said...

The actor stopped telling this story 20 years ago. Lionel Barrymore died 60 years ago.

Zeroh Tollrants said...

Michael, Kirk.
Blind talks about "local" women, so this is gonna be one of those foreign peoples country.
They did NOT refer to movie sequels as franchises in the 80s.
People don't use coke for their injuries.
Michael Douglas's rep was much messier 40 plus yrs ago. If you can find some old tabloids from back in the day, you'll see.

Unknown said...

Peter Fonda was in the "Cannonball Run" movie franchise back in the day. Won an Academy Award for a screenplay before that. Seeing that ol' Pete said that he wanted to see Trump's son Barron kidnapped and put in a cage with pedophiles, I can see this being him.

Aoife said...

Douglas pere et fils.

Kim said...

As messed up as Hollywood seems a incident like this wouldn't keep them from remaking a franchise. If millions of dollars would be made they wouldn't let a actor killing someone stop them.

Sara, Making It Work said...

Peter Fonda was nominated for screenplay. He did not win.

Sara, Making It Work said...

@Kim,
In Hollywood maybe not.
But this blind implies that the movies were filmed in other countries (which the Douglas ones were). If he had to bribe his way out of this, it makes sense that he may want to lie low for a while. He and the studio may have gotten a reputation at that point. The "franchise" would not have worked if they did it stateside.

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Velvet Voice said...

local women= the movie was being shot in a FOREIGN COUNTRY

Actor used to be a drunk person, not anymore

my money is on douglas

Unknown said...

I think this is Michael Douglas and his Dad. And by the time he had his son with his first wife, the Douglas "good luck" had run out. His oldest son is a chip off the old block(s).

atd8vii said...

Gotta be Douglas.

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