Friday, August 20, 2010

Four For Friday

#1 - This foreign born A list female singer is huge worldwide. One secret that she has tried to keep is that she had a baby when she was younger. A member of the family raises the baby and pretends the baby is theirs. Our singer was barely of age and she got pregnant by her then married record producer.

#2 & #3- Old Hollywood - This gruff, hard drinking, A++ Academy Award winning actor who generally played one type of role once traded some pictures he took of another A++ Academy Award winning actor having sex with a teen boy and girl for a boat. The gruff actor took the pictures and was there but was smart enough to stay out of the frame.

Only three today.

100 comments:

MontanaMarriott said...

1. I would say Celine but Rene was very protective of her so not sure about her.

West End Girl said...

1 - Shakira?

MontanaMarriott said...

2. John Wayne

Nicola said...

It's not Celine. Her childhood and teens are well documented here in Canada.

How about Shakira?

kcqueen said...

Celine would have had to have had that baby at about 11 for it to be her.

What about Kylie Minogue- or however it's spelled!

Missjenny619 said...

#1 sounds like Shakira to me. She's a huge international star. Not sure if she was married when she was younger though, time for Wikipedia!

#2 Juicy! I guess maybe it's Marlon Brando. Seems it will be a popular guess based on other old Hollywood blinds about this kind of stuff...

Jillian S. said...

1. Shakira

2. Humphrey Bogart or John Wayne

kcqueen said...

Where was Gloria Estefan born?

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angie said...

1.kylie minogue

2. Richard Burton

Fish said...

What about Shania Twain? I could believe that.

sunnyside1213 said...

Bogart loved boats and always had one or more.

Celine has been in love with Renee since she hit puberty. Don't think it is them.

MontanaMarriott said...

It could be Shakira since it says the record producer WAS MARRIED not the singer.

I like the John Wayne/Brando guess. The way it is phrased it has to be either an action or a western star since they played one type of role which would fit.

MontanaMarriott said...

Just to throw another name in the list, Sade?? She is A list and international.

sunnyside1213 said...

Bogart was also a serious drinker.

sunnyside1213 said...

Montana, I just reread that blind. missed the one role part. That point to John Wayne to me. Not sure Brando was type cast.

MontanaMarriott said...

Bogart could work along with another notorious bisexual Cary Grant.

Red said...

John Wayne for 2. Always played the gruffy old hero type. War movies, westerns, you name it--he was the solid hero. A++ for sure, they even named an airport after him.

3- Brando? We've seen racy photos of him before (though not with teenage boys/girls) so it wouldn't be a shock. Brando was known for liking boats so I could see him getting blackmailed like this. And of course, he's def. A++ too

MontanaMarriott said...

Sunnyside, only one of the actors was typecast the other was not.

not on my dollar said...

I think #1 is Celine. Renee was married when they met so they could have hid the baby because Celine was so young and because HE was married.

sunnyside1213 said...

Thanks Montana, obviously I am not fully functioning here. I like that guess, but have trouble with the pairing. I don't think they were ever friends? However, they both liked exotic women so who knows.

Harriet Hellfire said...

My first thought for #1 was Shakira.

sunnyside1213 said...

If it is Celine, didn't she marry him as soon as she was legal?

Pookie said...

1-not shakira...her star started to rise in her native colombia as a tween in the early 90s...pregnancy would've been really hard to hide.

love the celine guess for reasons NOMD stated.


2-?
3-jack nicholson

Paisley said...

The way the blind was written, it sounds like the baby is still being raised. If this was Celine or Sade, wouldn't the kid be over 20 if they got knocked up young?

evergrey said...

Shakira was the first to pop into my head too, but I could see this being Celine as well.

I also thought John Wayne for #2. Not sure who the actor is in the photos though.

nancer said...

raises the baby. not raised. sounds like it's still a child.

DNfromMN said...

Rihanna for #1?

James Coburn for #2?

MontanaMarriott said...

Good point Paisley, I did not think about that. Yeah it does say the baby which doesn't make sense because the child shouldn't be a baby anymore unless the star is really young herself. Hmmmm RIHANNA??? Early 20's born in Barbados, hmmmmmm?

sunnyside1213 said...

"Just before here 18th birthday Dion receded from the spotlight for a number of months, during which she underwent dental surgery to improve her appearance, and was sent to the École Berlitz in 1989 to polish her English." And I was wrong, she didn't marry Rene until 1994. (She was born in 1968)So, I am going for Celine.

MontanaMarriott said...

Yeah DNfromMN, I thought the same thing even though I find it REALLL hard to think of Rihanna as an A list female singer who is huge worldwide.

RocketQueen said...

For some reason #2 is SCREAMING Bogart to me. Like Shakira for 1

Jessica said...

Definitely Shakira - just saw pics today of her and they were talking about how her stretch marks are showing.
Don't know why someone built like her and who has seemed to have been the same size all along would have stretch marks like this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1304738/Shakira-shows-stretch-marks-shooting-new-video.html

moxy said...

mariah carey

john wayne - ftw

KellyLynn said...

Rene was married to his previous wife until 1988, and Celine would have turned 20 in 1988, BUT Celine left the spotlight between 18 and 20, which would have been between 1986 and 1988. I guess it fits. If that's the case, her child is now 23 or 24.

I don't put too much stock into the specific wording. We could just be reading way too much into that particular phrase.

For the second one, I was thinking someone more like Humphrey Bogart.

Get a Life said...

How about Rihanna? There's a picture of her with her brother in the random photos today and she's from Barbados.

Very said...

@Jessica
Lots of girls who have never had kids have stretch marks. My daughter who is 5'10" and 130 lbs has stretch marks from her pre-teen growth spurt.
Hips, inner-thighs and breasts are common areas of quick growth.

Jim said...

"Huge worldwide" seems to qualify her popularity (i.e. not in the U.S.) so it's definitely Kylie.

KellyLynn said...

Okay, for numbers two and three I'm thinking Humphrey Bogart and Spencer Tracy, respectively.

Erin said...

Very is right. I've never had a kid and am a size 4/6. Got stretch marks on my hips and breasts. They aren't an accurate indicator of child birth.

Somer-sky said...

Robyn for #1

not on my dollar said...

If the child is still a baby than it couldn't be Celine, Shakira, Kylie or Sade. Shakira is 33 and the rest are over 40.

Maybe it is Rihanna.

krivas said...

#1 mentions 'record producer'...was Rene a producer, or just Celine's manager?

VelvetStaccato said...

Number 1 is totally Celine. She's always talked about how special their relationship was from the start, in a starry-eyed, crushy kind of way and she was a teenager then. It now explains why she's been so baby crazy for so long; longing for the child that she had to give away and being raised by one of her numerous siblings??? Too easy!!!

Sean said...

Yeah, can't be Sade. She is 52. THe kid would be in their 30s now if that were the case.

Celine Dion, don't think so. She has been playing beard for her husband since her bought her from her family.

Sounds like the Janet Jackson/DeBarge thing all over.

Let's guess....Lily Allen

Ashley said...

My vote and first thought was Kylie

Lissette said...

1. Definitely Celine. She was his protege while he was married and the rumors were that they were having an affair. He got divorced because of her.
2. John Wayne

Lissette said...

1. Definitely Celine. She was his protege while he was married and the rumors were that they were having an affair. He got divorced because of her.
2. John Wayne

Middle-aged Diva said...

@sean...rene gay? new info to me!

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clowncar said...

1-sounds like celine to me, except can she really be called A list anymore?

Basil said...

1 is Celine. She did disappear for awhile before she really started to hit it big in the rest of Canada (she was already fairly big in Quebec). She comes from a HUGE family, so it would be really easy to pass off her child to another sibling to raise. Rene was married at the time, and given how much things cost, could have easily acted as her producer as well as her manager. Not to mention, it would not be in her best interests to reveal a secret love child since it does not fit her image.

2 My first thought was Richard Burton, but could really be anyone since they were all hard drinking way back in the day, but Wayne fits the typecasting part. Couldn't tell you if he was a big drinker or not though.

Basil said...

Ooh! I just noticed Alanis is in the photos! She wrote a song about about having a secret affair with her producer when she 14 or so. Not sure if I would consider her A list now, but she sure as hell was A list for a time. Hmmmmm.

Orange said...

1. Katie Perry
2. Jack Palance
3. Marlon Brando or Jack Nicholson

Nicolette said...

What about Peter O'Toole for #2? He was a crazy, crazy drinker with tons of crazy stories. The one I remember most is when he was filming on a boat, and the boat either jammed against another boat, or the dock. His hand was off the side, and the impact pulled the flesh right off of one of his fingers at the joint. He was so drunk that instead of going to the doctor he simply popped the tip back on, wrapped it, and went on filming. Two weeks later he took the bandage off and the finger tip had healed, but since he was so drunk he didn't put it back on strait. It's been slightly askance ever since.

Orange said...

Sorry, Katy is not foreign. Thought she was. I give up on Number 1

Orange said...

Avril Lavigne for No. 1, just to be different (she's younger than Shakira, so why not?)

d said...

I don't see how it could be Celine Dion since she's had so much trouble conceiving.

westward ho said...

i don't think it's bogey; he didn't generally play just one kind of role -- although people might remember him more for his tough detective roles than his others. he was a very versatile actor, though, and played a number of different kinds of characters. john wayne, on the other hand ... pretty much: tough guy, tough guy, tough guy. he loved boats so much that he bought a home in newport beach on the water so he could be next to his yacht 24/7.

ardleigh said...

#2-William Holden (he was convicted of vech. manslaughter when drinking did no time)

#3- Marlon Brando (Bing Crosby, Alec Guiness)

violet said...

I am going with Rihanna becasue she is in random pics today with this caption "Rihanna starts dating young. Actually it is her brother."
Hmmmmmmmmm.

white lorelei said...

Lee Marvin & Charles Bronson.

Or, Charles Bronson and Lee Marvin.

MadLyb said...

1. Shakira
2. Humphrey Bogart
3. Marlon Brando

Rickster said...

John Wayne owned a boat--a converted Navy minesweeper. Big, butch boat for a gruff harddrinking guy.

skeeball said...

what about Errol Flynn for the actor taking the picture? he spent tons of time on his boat and sailed to the south pacific with a bunch of other actors, not sure who he would have taken the picture of. He was also charged with statuatory rape and went on trial for it.

Henriette said...

I think Rhianna for #1, because Celine had such a hard time getting pregnant.

Mister said...

John Wayne and Humphrey Bogart both had boats in Newport Harbor. Bogie belonged to the Newport Harbor Yacht Club and Wayne had a house not far from there.

If it wasn't for the Academy Award part I would have said Errol Flynn for sure. Also, I think it could be Douglas Fairbanks, Jr.

See this from wikipedia: It has been claimed that Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. was one of the naked men in the incriminating photos used as evidence in the divorce trial of Margaret Campbell, Duchess of Argyll in 1963.[4] Obviously, he didn't mind being photographed.

allisonshine72 said...

#1 is most probably Celine. I live in Quebec and this has been a rumour for as long as I can remember. Her family is enormous. There is no shortage of family members who could care for this child.

Beth said...

1. Celine

Btw, Shakira is a LOT skinnier now than she was when she became big in Colombia. You can even see a difference between "Wherever, Whenever" and now.

Also, Kylie was famous overseas starting in her late teens.

2. John Wayne

3. ???

Mango said...

1. First thought: Celine (the irony was that when she was ready to publicly have a child she had trouble conceiving)

2. Bogart or John Wayne

3. Dunno

Ally Bee said...

1. Janet Jackson

Serena said...

James Cagney could be another possibility for # 2; he was known for the tough "G man" role, he was an avid sailor, and he won an Oscar

pabbynl said...

Not Kylie.

She didnt get a recording contract till late teens (while in a relationship with Jason Donovan till early 20s)...

"Barely of age" doesnt fit late teens...more like 16-17 yrs old...

Agree with previous, sounds like the child is still young...meaning mother is only early 20s at the most.

Aly said...

#1) Is Janet Jackson foreign-born?

#2) Cannot be Peter O'Toole nor Charles Bronsin, as neither won Oscars.

I thought Bogie was a pretty straight arrow, a number of girl friends, never read in biographies of any trouble, life court short by cancer not long after after he had met and married Lauren Bacall. John Wayne was a drinker, bottle of tequila per day, accused of beating women. I never read anything/rumors about him previously? Just to being one of the many sextoys/playthings for Joan Crawford when he was starting out in Hollywood. But that description would fit lots and lots of actors. So who knows? Anything's possible? Prepared for the next Inquistion?

f00bby said...

1. Shakira

2. Robert Mitchum.

DreaminginDanish said...

#!: Rihanna. She is often seen with a little brother, Rajad who looks to be about 7 or 8. She was 15/16 when she was discovered by Evan Rogers, a married producer who was on vacation in Barbados when they met. That's my guess.

#2&3: No clue.

HautieTx said...

#1

Seriously there are way too many options for this one if you really think about it. So many girls start the whole fame thing early and get put into the position of older nasty men trying to shag them.

#2-3

Love the idea of it being John Wayne and Errol Flynn. Both were huge horn dog's... both where big big drinkers. And both had a thing for boats.

I hope it gets revealed!

Mark said...

1. Celine
2. Bogart and Brando

ericmtl said...

It is indeed Celine Dion. Everybody knows it in Quebec but the media will never talk about it. They're all scared of Rene Angelil and his army of lawyers. The child's name is Audrey and she has been raised by Ghislaine Dion. She is 24 years old. She also has a 2 year-old child which makes Celine a grand-mother.

sage1 said...

1. Shakira; Celine has too much trouble getting pregnant to be that fertile in her youth.

2. Lee Marvin, a real MFer in his day.

3. Errol Flynn, rumors circulated for years...
Cary Grant had far too much class to be involved with Lee Marvin.. just sayin'....

ms snarky said...

I don't agree with the idea that it can't be Celine due to her later difficulty getting pregnant; I know several girls who were successfully pregnant when they were young, then had major difficulty trying to conceive and/or carry a pregnancy to term when they were older. Myself included in that group. Pregnancy is a lot easier to achieve when you're young.

ardleigh said...

Enty I have a humble request. Could you please ...pretty please with bacon on top, tell us when someone gets one right.
You wouldn't even have to say how many of us got it right just something like:

#1- Noone got right think older.

#2- Someone got right. Good job.

#3- Everyone missed

Thank you for doing what you do.

sunnyside1213 said...

Yes Enty, even Ted gives clues after the fact.

Mari said...

Celine for the singer. Like Rene and his magically easy annulment, the cathedral wedding, the super creepy fact she was basically handed over to Rene as a kid, all facts nobody in QC seems to want to publish as criticisms, but everyone knows. LOL

elspeth said...

Oh, yes, pretty please w/bacon on top, sides, plastered all over -- Give hints for the blinds sometimes. We'd love you even more for doing it! Think you'd get more hits as we came back to zero in on the answers if we had some feedback. Please think about it!

shakey said...

1 screams Céline. Did some digging - yes she does have a niece named Audrey. Born in 1987. According to http://www.lafamilledion.com/tiki-index.php?page=Biographie_Ghyslaine 3 months after the birth of Audrey, Ghislaine joined Céline on tour she was doing in Quebec. Celine released Incognito that year.

This is probably splitting hairs - 1987 cover for Incognito:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Incognito.jpg

1988 Eurovision song contest winner:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nppsm3.jpg

Anyway, we have a case of that happening in my aunt's family. Her sister gave birth to a boy and her parents raised him as their son. I'm guessing the son knows because it hasn't been a secret for many years now.

Felly said...

Did someone say bacon?

plot said...

"I don't see how it could be Celine Dion since she's had so much trouble conceiving. "

Older women have trouble conceiving in ways that younger women don't.

Wishing there was a picture of this Audrey woman somewhere. Rene Angelil looks so different from the Dions it's bound to show up in his child.

Henriette said...

Sorry, but the pic of Rhianna with her "brother" makes me stick with Rhianna as the first blind.

Celine Dion always had problems conceiving. She is quite honest about her irregular periods and how they had tried naturally for years to conceive.

navyvet1994 said...

1. I would say it's Sade

2. John Wayne

3. Lwee Marvin

ready42012 said...

rihanna loves to sleep with married/taken men. I know it may sound pretty sketchy but judging from her relationships and onstage performances, its not too far from the truth!

So I believe it's her for number 1 along with Evan Rodgers...

I love rihanna but dayum mama's a hoe!

ready42012 said...

*I meant I read from another gossip site!*

Lissette said...

Hmmm...
Still going to say it's Celine. Look at this tiny bit of info. (she took a year off when she was 18 to undergo a "complete makeover"):
"In an effort to embark on the path of global superstardom, Celine Dion took a year off of recording, during which she had caps put on her teeth, had a complete makeover, and learned English. She spent the next two years working on a English language album and an American record contract. She also continued to perform throughout Canada. In 1988, Dion and Angelil began to develop a romance, but because of their 26-year age difference, they kept their relationship a secret."
--from Who2Biography

sarah said...

Rihanna is 22, and that kid is 10 if he's a day - she didn't have a kid when she was 12. Not buying that one.

I think maybe people don't want to agree with the Celine choice because nobody wants a case-closed, they want it to be more difficult to crack... but if what the Canadians here say is accurate (and I think people are backing up the leave of absence in the late 80s) then I think we have a winner there. At least I'm satisfied.

Janet said...

I wouldn't be surprised if there was more than one singer with a secret baby.

I think that a lot of evidence is supporting Celine having a secret baby, but I don't feel she totally fits the blind. The blind says "raises" which implies younger child. That has to be an important word.

Enty... just to reiterate what others have said... yes, please give follow up clues if you can. Doesn't need to be anything big just "no one's close" or "think younger" or something like that.

ready42012 said...

You'll be surprised at the number of young mothers and besides, the industry likes to portray female singers younger than what they really are... I still believe this one is RIHANNA

Daveb said...

The latest Hollywood Babylon book claimas that Charlton Heston liked young boy/girl combinations. So I'll go with him for 3. The "hard drinking" immediately made me think of Robert Mitchum for 2 but it appears he was nominated but didn't win (a travesty in my opinion). So I'm left with Lee Marvin or Burt Lancaster for 2 as gruff and hard drinking.

plot said...

The use of "raises" instead of "raised" is very common in English usage for a past indeterminate event. In story telling, it's used all the time -

"She has a child, she raises it. The child thrives and becomes a healthy adult"

This is all assumed to be past.

Let's not parse things to literally here.

No matter how irregular her periods, Celine could have a conceived a child as a teenager and unable to conceive later in life.

Michelle said...

For the argument that it can't be Celine's because of her hard time conceiving, it's a lot easier to conceive later. Also, most problems that cause irregular cycles don't hit until late teens/early twenties. Nature intends for teenage girls to have babies, even if it is no longer socially acceptable.

linnea said...

What an interesting blind... I guess my money is on Celine!

melissa said...

my first instinct for number 1 was RIHANNA she has always flown her brother out to spend time with her she's 22 so at 15 shecould of had a baby that is now 7...