Tuesday, January 14, 2014

Why The Octomom Welfare Fraud Prosecution Is Idiotic

Octomom aka Nadya Suleman is being charged with welfare felony fraud. While I applaud the State of California for going after welfare cheats to protect my tax dollars, someone higher up in government needs to put a stop to this whole thing now because it is the biggest waste of money ever.

Octomom is accused of failing to report $30,000 in earnings in one year which allowed her to continue to receive welfare benefits for her family of 14. She didn't earn enough the year before or after to violate the rule. An investigation was launched after tabloids publicly reported her income. She faces five years in jail if convicted.

Already the state has spent about $25K in the investigation. If the case goes to trial the state will spend another $50K minimum.

According to an LA Times article, the CA the government sets aside about $2000 per child per month in foster care. That includes about $800 per month that goes to the foster parent. If Nadya is convicted of the crime and sentenced to the maximum her kids would likely end up in foster care. 14 kids. 60 months. 840 months total at $2000 per month. $1,680,000.00 is how much the taxpayers of California would have to pay. Minimum. Many of the kids are special needs children and require expensive care.  Plus, the 14 kids would be split. Plus the children would be in danger of increased abuse and many other factors that can't be calculated.

There is also the cost of incarcerating and then the parole and probation of Octomom. There will be the additional costs of hearings after her release to get her children back. Potentially, taxpayers are looking at millions of dollars out of their pockets for her making an extra $30,000 in one year. Ridiculous. I understand the need to punish the crime but someone needs to look at this realistically and not just grab for headlines.

30 comments:

Meanie Rhysie said...

Wait, what? She has 14 kids?!?!

Henriette said...

I think this should have been done a while back. She's been a grifter for a LONG time.

sandybrook said...

So....whats the lesser of 2 evils her staying out of jail and raising these kids and collecting welfare? That's better for them???

Vera L- said...

How does she still have custody of the kids? How can anyone manage 24/7 care of 14 children?

Bacon Ranch said...

That whole "reporting the 200 grand" she got for the porno may have had something to do with it

Count Jerkula said...

It is amazing that mental patient has held on to her kids this long. Welfare fraud seems like a fine excuse to remove them from that moron and give them a shot at growing up human.

__-__=__ said...

Please lock her up before she breeds again!!!!

PugsterMom said...

Yeah arrest her while the likes of Lindsay Lohan roam free. I'm no fan but she's doing the best she can under the circumstances with the whole world against her.

Tammy said...

The same holds true for any welfare fraud case, though. Do you just let them get away with it?

I'm not saying they should or shouldn't, just saying that welfare fraud is rampant, and there are no easy solutions.

Lurker Girl said...

If you cannot be an example to your children, at least you can be a warning to others...

Stepforded said...

Well, yes, it is a lot of money BUT they need to make an example of her so others don't do - or try and do - the same.

Anothergrayhare said...

They should make the idiot doctor who implanted 8 embryos pay back the 30K. And I didn't know some of the kids were special needs. Sad.

Nutty_Flavor said...

@Stepforded, I agree - this prosecution is about setting an example.

It's important to show that gaming the welfare system doesn't work, for two audiences: 1) people who may consider gaming the system and 2) taxpayers who fund the system.

If the broader public is convinced that most welfare money goes to fraud, there will be less willingness to allot funding for welfare.

Its just U said...

She is an idiot for letting it get to the point of trial and prosecution. In most cases if you admit fault and agree terms of repayment with penalties then nobody needs to go to jail.
Or she is a genius who knows it will run into millions to prosecute a (relatively) small overpayment and it may well be dropped.
Having 14 kids doesn't make her a bad mother, but putting her freedom in jeopardy for a few bucks and leaving the state to pick up the pieces does.

Renoblondee said...

They can't just make exceptions for people.

Sis said...

I hate when there is a "setting an example" kind of story...How about really going for the welfare fraud of someone who collects several different checks through identity theft, etc? Just have her pay it back, garnish her income tax refund. There is real abuse of the system and of kids, go after them.

Chris J said...

I agree with you.

nancer said...

so the state shouldn't prosecute a crime?? i mean, i feel sorry for her kids but they were screwed from the day she had them.

we prosecute criminals, and yes it's expensive to try them, and to incarcerate them if that's the way it turns out. but the state can't make decisions about pursuing a case based on all the shit mentioned here. SHE should have thought of that.

fancyscreenname said...

Oh good grief. She broke the law just like many other welfare cheats bit unlike them she can trade in on her celebrity and pay off the fine. If u don't want to go to jail obey the effing laws.

Ugh...

Jennifer H. said...

They should fine her. Anything else punishes the children far more than her.

Felicia said...

Don't forget, CA taxpayers already footed the bill of over 1 mill just so that Octomoo could give BIRTH to these kids. So they're already supporting them in a big way. Octomoo didn't have health insurance and the taxpayers got to pay for her delivery.

J-Mo said...

Make the fertility dr pay, he should be supporting those kids.

RowdyRodimus said...

I know Talks Too Much knows my situation, so she can attest to the fact that you would think I could get some sort of benefits like food stamps, or help with utility bills, however, they say I make too much at $700 a month.

I have no problem with them going after someone who cheated the system. If I have to follow the rules, so does this trick.

auntliddy said...

Of course she is a dimwit, but this prosecution does serve the purpose of turning people off to funding welfare. Some people think welfare recipiants have split levels and 2 cars, when in reality, they live in rundown apartment, get like $8oo a month for food and rent for family of 5. They get substandard medical care, lousy schools and lousy jobs because they have no cars or babysitters. You try raising family on $800 a month. Im trying to say i dont like being manipulated into thinking welfare recipients are living high on the hog and we shld all vote to defund welfare. As for sulemon, everybody knows her deal. Just fine her and move on.

mynerva said...

I didn't know some of her children had special needs

ninotchka said...

Meh. There are so few people on welfare and even fewer cheating welfare that this one stupid whore and her zillion kids is no big deal.

The Enty is right, it'll cost us more to bother with this than it would to let it go. Keep a somewhat stricter eye on her in the future and move on.

If anyone is worried about government spending, focus on the Pentagon, not the Octomom.

MadLyb said...

I think the doctor who inseminated her should pay her child support. She's obviously a few cards short of a deck, and no ethical doctor would have given her a shot of the babies.

LogDog said...

I hardly believe her 'welfare fraud' or any other kind of welfare fraud other poor people do has any impact on rich people's ability to get richer

B said...

Agree Enty!

volliger said...

Completely serious question. In a world of "Duck Dynasty" and "Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo," why was Octomom unable to score the reality show she seems to have so wanted? Obviously, I'm referring to the days before her solo porno.

Thanks and regards to Enty, Count J and the rest.