Friday, December 08, 2017

Four For Friday - Forget Me Not

About a decade ago, life came crashing down hard on this, at the time permanent A list celebrity. After what happened he has laid low for much of the decade which endangers that permanent A list status.

At the time, our permanent A lister was traveling all over the world. He was making a lot of money, but not enough to support his lifestyle. He wanted more. He also had a huge sexual appetite, but like most people in this spot, it was not anything anyone would consider normal.

It turns out, one of his best friends at the time was this now convicted child rapist/molester with the powerful friends. Much like his best friend, our A lister also owned an island and knew he could have something similar.

While the friend focused his attention on the US and Europe, our A lister focused his attention on Asia. While the friend focused on connections, our A lister focused on making money. A lot of money. On his trips to Asia, he met with some people who specialized in tourists wanting children or young teens. Our A lister arranged for a group of 20 of these teens to get visas to "study" in the country where his island is still located. The government of that country makes a lot of money from the A lister and also had many of their own government ministers at his home on the island.

The teen and tween girls were set up in a dormitory adjacent to the main house. Then, our A lister made bookings with Asian companies for his services. The thing is though, his services for years were one price and then beginning that year about a decade ago, his fees quadrupled. The difference was what men paid to visit his island. For close to 18 months or so, our A lister was making millions of dollars a month. Just a ton of money he was making so men could rape these tweens and teens. Every two or three nights, the boat carrying 10-15 of these men would pull up to the dock and then be replaced three nights later with another group of men.

At some point, our A lister got cocky. He started filming the tweens and teens and sending out little clips and photos of them across the internet to make the dollars flow even faster. He also met a woman who he thought would be into that kind of thing and invited her to come to the island so they could explore together. She came and then almost crashed his whole world.

She went to the feds. The next thing you know, our A lister has all his cash seized and they find evidence of the porn and money laundering and he knows he is going to jail for a very very long time. To make matters worse for him, all of the men who had paid in advance to visit the island complained to the companies they paid money to. Those companies were also mad because the agreement they had in place to supply teens for money was now canceled.

Our A lister was looking at decades in jail. Then, the most fortunate set of circumstances came to be. Some new people came to power and they decided to look the other way. They made everything just go away. They even managed to make the woman who turned on the A lister look like a loon. In return, this group of people got names and contacts and also all those clips. It is amazing what power can do. The A lister probably won't ever get his old luster back, but it beats spending all that time in jail.

199 comments:

sandybrook said...

The friend is Jeffrey Epstein

DonnaMarie said...

Richard Branston and Jeffrey?

Tricia13 said...

Epstein and Prince Andrew?

ccryder said...

New people = Clintons

They have blackmail power over several people - how they have stayed "teflon-ed" as well.
Le sigh.

PoliticallyIncorrect71 said...

Clooney will eventually come out in one of these trafficking blinds through his “refugee” program with Clinton pal Frank Giustra. I’m waiting....

sandybrook said...

Mel Gibson owns an island....he was permanent A maybe still is. He sure did have a bad event.

haydnhorse said...

Mango Island, Fiji, Mel Gibson?

Do Tell said...

Mel was the first one that came to mind, but when was his "sugartits" arrest?

In any case, this is absolutely disgusting.

Alexandria Anna said...

Sounds like A lister Prince Andrew, but not sure, and his best friend Jeffrey Epstein.

Anandamide said...

Agree about the friend being Epstein and his nasty Lolita Express. At this point is there anyone who isn't a power and control hungry asshole around? It's depressing.

sandybrook said...

2006 Do Tell

SDaly said...

"about a decade ago" would implicate Obama and Holder.

Mag said...

@ccryder - Clintons didn't come into power a decade ago, they did much earlier, unless you are referring to HC becoming the Secretary of State for Obama. I think the new people in power would be some new faces related to Obama administration, but I'm not an American, so no specific guesses here.

Mandi Rei Serra said...

I'd say Joe Francis and his island, but he's never been A list imho.

http://people.com/home/joe-francis-loses-mexican-estate-kardashian-vacation-spot/

BayAreaGirl said...

Not Branson. Necker Island is in the British VI. Branson & Virgin Group don't have holdings or business in Asia. Sheldon Adelson had a lot of investments in Macau a few years back before the FCAP investigations & local gov't crack-down.

Peter Theil was also trying to build his version of Utopia somewhere in the Pacific before giving up. However, I don't think either of them were ever Perm A+ list and they don't keep a low profile.

Mel Gibson has an island in Fiji, but that's not Asia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mago_Island

marq danger said...

there was a coup d'état in Fiji in 2006.

Ice Angel said...

Maybe Steven Segal?

Melvin The Reanimated said...

Alan Dershowitz.

Sparkly Girl said...

My gut would say it is Prince Andrew but would his A list status ever be compromised for the pure fact he is a royal? Epstein is definitely the friend.Gibson or Prince Andrew fit the timeline - guaranteed this is Obama/Holder/Clinton as SS that was the change in power to make this go away. Both Clintons have been noted to visit Epstein's island.

Mag said...

I don't think the A lister is any actor/director, it would be mentioned. It's someone who is a celebrity for other reasons (politics, entertainemnt, legal profession), who travelled a lot.
I have no guesses, but he's friends with Epstein, that much seems clear.

Khaleesi said...

@Mag, I keep rereading that part too. I feel like Prince Andrew laying low for a decade doesn't necessarily hurt his status though, right?

texasrose said...

The fiji/gibson thing is interesting but it's not like he has been 'laying low' for the last 10 years. Also, given how many people hate him, it is hard to imagine keeping something like this under wraps for ten years.

I think people on wrong track if they think change in US leadership that shut it down. If island in another country then US not even involved. Sounds like leadership of some banana republic changed. Hence, interesting that there was a coup in fiji in 2006.

sandybrook said...

Epstein was charged in 2007 and the deal was made, so it can't be Obama. In 2006 Charlie Crist was elected governor of Florida he took office in 2007, I think he's the new person in power, taking over from Governor Bush, since Epstein was in Palm Beach.

.robert said...

Mel Gibson was and is extremely wealthy even after his divorce. Prince Andrew just does not fit with the description. This would be around '08 when Obama was elected or the wording could be something like when the King of Thailand died or the new Philippines president was elected.

Khaleesi said...

I agree @texasrose, about the US leadership part. It has something to do with the coup.

Dog Mom said...

New people in power about a decade ago would be Dems in White House. Clinton as Sec State would overlook things especially dealing with her husband and his friends.

I think people in power means national/international power.

Epstein and Prince Andrew kind of fit, but I think Prince A is permanently A.

Who owned/owns a tropical island? Epstein, Branson, Mel Gibson, Keith Richards, Depp?

BayAreaGirl said...

@Mag - The Feds usually relates to the FBI and DOJ - headed by the Attorney General. Secretary of State does not have official power here.

@Melvin that is a very good guess. His name pops up a lot when these abuse allegations come out (including Prince Andrew). He's the East Coast equivalent of Marty Singer.

Kit said...


Johnny Depp owns an island & has had money issues..

Nawlins Jim said...

One of the clues is that the woman the A-lister brought in almost brought him down but then was made to look like a loon-this sounds a lot like what happened with Oksana Grigorieva and Mel Gibson. She's been completely out of the limelight since her settlement with Mel and she took just a few hundred grand and a house to shut up. Mel's "sugar tits" incident was around 2006, so that fits for the shattering event after which the A lister has kept a low profile.

Despite being seen as politically conservative, Gibson was very vocally critical of the Bush Administation in 2006, so they may have been eager to find something to stick it to him with after he feel from grace. The Clintons on the other hand may have been eager to keep Mel's transgressions out of the spotlight if there was a chance it would bring more attention back to Epstein and other sleazeball backers they had in Hollywood.

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marq danger said...

Alright, how about David Copperfield? He is arguably permanent A lister..tho since 2000's you don't hear much of him.

He owns a series of island in the Bahamas. Not Asia obviously (that's the only problem). He makes major major money renting out these islands.

In 2007 he was accused of rape by Miss Washington USA contestant. She gets arrested later making her look like a loon. FBI seized a crap ton of cash from him in vegas by the FBI

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/david-copperfields-rape-investigation-vanishes/story?id=9675140

Mag said...

#Khaleesi - That depends on what we mean by "A list status". If it's his position, then not, he'll always be a royal. If it's his popularity with the public, being recognizable to everyone, liked, then being out of the public eye can take that away. However, as the island is outisde the US, and he focused on Asian market, not American (so no US connection in terms of clients), and Prince Andrew is a British citizen, US feds would not be investigating that. This must be an Amreican or at least someone having a business in US or being a US resident.

wade-o-potatoface said...

What about Copperfield?

Dog Mom said...

DIdn't Mark Cuban have some issue about a decade ago with underage girls on some pacific island? I cannot remember the details, but read one or two articles about it and then nothing. Although he does have a high profile, it was much higher a decade ago in tech.

RED said...

Johnny Depp? HE owns an island somewhere. I hope not.

Cail Corishev said...

I don't think it said it had to be before or after Epstein's slap on the wrist, and court cases can take years (I think Epstein's took three), so the bust could have been "about a decade ago" and then the change in power is Obama taking office in 2009. Unless it was actually another nation investigating it, in which case there must be a lot of possibilites. I wouldn't think a new state governor could shut down something the feds were about to finish up, unless he was someone connected like a Bush.

My cynical side says the change in power behind the curtain from Bush to Obama wasn't drastic enough to cause a policy shift like this on prosecution/blackmail. But maybe it's more that things changed and someone decided that the evidence would be better kept in their capable hands than used at a trial. Could be that some of the people pictured became more important, untouchable where they weren't before.

Khaleesi said...

@Dog Mom - he has not laid low whatsoever for the past decade!

BayAreaGirl said...

Did some research as follow-up to .robert's comment & Thailand had a very violent coup in 2006 which lead to to years of turmoil and the installment of a new government in 2007/2008, purging all members of the prior government.

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Auntie Histimine said...

I really wanna say Clintons/Obama/Holder, but the timelines just don't fit. Obama was tasked with protecting the Clinton's come hell or high water. Hired Hillary even though it was against pubic opinion. I dunno.
I just don't see Mel Gibson, being the profound Catholic he is, even giving his past bad behavior.
I don't believe the Fed's will go after Epstein for anything more than they already have; they figure they already "got their man."

Khaleesi said...

@Mag - I was just refocusing on that part too! I think we were all too focused on where the island was located.

And when I was looking up Depp's bio on Wiki, I realized he has Geffen ties.

Depp subsequently collaborated with the band Rock City Angels[22] and co-wrote their song "Mary", which appeared on Rock City Angels' debut Geffen Records album Young Man's Blues.[23]

Omg said...

Dubai would be considered Asia. But I can’t find a celebrity who owns an island there

Mag said...

Also, Enty doesn't say the island itself is in Asia (only suggests that it's not the US: "The government of THAT country makes a lot of money from the A lister and also had many of their own government ministers at his home on the island"). He says the A lister did business with Asian companies, but the island can be anywhere. Some country with a corrupt government.

DH said...

The blind doesn't say that the island is in Asia, just that Asian girls were given visa's to the country that the island belongs to.

As for celebrities that 1) were A list 2) have since laid low, and 3) own a private island: what about Eddie Murphy?

marq danger said...

RE Copperfield:

"2007 was an odd time for Copperfield. In addition to the launch of the rape investigation in October, the same month, FBI agents raided a Las Vegas warehouse owned by Copperfield. Media reports claimed agents took $2 million in cash from the building along with a computer hard drive and a memory chip from a digital camera system."

This matches the blind with cash seized and they find porn on his devices.
Also of note the accuser said she was assaulted after visiting him on his island.

Dog Mom said...

RED, Depp sure does or did own an island in the caribbean. You can/could rent it out.

Khalessi, just throwing Cuban out there. I really wish I could remember whatever shady thing I read about him. I think the shark tank thing is to sell himself to the general public for a future political run.

JrSlims said...

I think Thailand had another coup in 2014.

It can't be DiCaprio (never laid low) but I remember his stuff was seized by the Feds in the Malaysia scandal. Were there other celebrities caught up in that? http://fortune.com/2017/06/16/1mdb-leonardo-dicaprio-fund-picasso/

DiCaprio is connected to Epstein via Dana Giacchetto. DiCaprio and Epstein could know each other. But again, I'd imagine it was someone else implicated in the same scheme cause this blind is not referring to DiCaprio.

Ron Burkle? Steve Bing? Danny A?

wwax said...

It's going to be tied to the government in the country it's happening in,they're the ones making the big dollars out of this, there are politicians & power brokers in other countries of the world. Maybe start with the most likely explanation instead of the whole dark state Clintons rule the world Illuminati bs.

I'd not be surprised if it was Mel. He bought an island in Fiji around the right time, they had the coup around the right time. His racist asshole mindset would see no problem treating non white girls like that at all.

The thirty Rock episode suddenly gets more interesting.

Cail Corishev said...

I just realized: it never says the island is in Asia, guys. It says that's where he focused his business and got his customers. It says the friend (Epstein) focused his attention on the US and Europe, while this guy focused on Asia. Epstein's customers were in the US and Europe, not his island. Sneaky Enty!

Now: "I immediately started talking loudly about how magical Musha felt, lauding David's passion, complimenting his taste, noting the exquisiteness of his many Asian sculptures." https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yvqm4y/the-magicians-retreat-234098-v20n8

Mag said...

@Khaleesi - Depp was a very popular guess in the recent New Orleans brothel blind as the guy who's being blackmailed and drinking himself to death over some tapes of him with a 13 year old girl. That would would fit. But Depp hasn't ever laid low, I think.

Justin said...

Is there any clue in the title of this blind? Or is Enty just saying that this case, swept neatly under a very shitty rug, is in danger of being forgotten?

1962rocketgoldstar said...

This is Prince Andrew and Epstein. If this were an actor, it would say something other than "celebrity" - that always means royal or politician. There was that poor girl who accused Andrew and got smeared mercilessly.

Amanda said...

I'm feeling the Copperfield guess. I don't think Mel would be listed as an A list celebrity, usually actors/directors get that distinction.

DH said...

Google confirms that Copperfield and Epstein were connected.

Khaleesi said...

Only problem with Copperfield is that he only bought the island in 2006. The Blind says "his services for years were one price and then beginning that year about a decade ago, his fees quadrupled".

Nawlins Jim said...

The Copperfield stuff is very interesting...

1962rocketgoldstar said...

This:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/prince-andrew-sex-allegations-virginia-roberts-had-rape-claim-rejected-at-14-over-credibility-10066537.html

And just Google Prince Andrew and Fiji. He's all over it.

DH said...

Ok, so in the Charles Dickens novel "David Copperfield", David gives his first wife a ring shaped like forget me nots...

Mag said...

I like the Copperfield guess best so far. Everything seems to fit.

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Jordyn said...

This person FOCUSED on Asia. It doesn't say the island is LOCATED in Asia.

Justin said...

Khaleesi, I took that to mean that his services (if, say, it were Copperfield) for magic were for years one price, and then around 2006 or 07 his fees mysteriously quadrupled--because he was bundling the cost of an island visit into his performance fees. But maybe I'm reading it wrong

Cail Corishev said...

I think @marq got it. (Damn, you guys are good at this.) The friend freaked, accused him (labeled a rape accusation for the public), feds raided and got the evidence, and then it all just went away when the accuser was accused of fabricating a separate rape charge in late 2009.

So either the Obamas are just huge fans of magic shows, or there was something in the evidence that Obama's people valued differently than the Bush regime had.

Justin said...

DH -- !!!!!!!!!! I guess that could be coincidence, but ... it's not looking good for Dave.

Boss Mare Eventing said...

Yes that article shared https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yvqm4y/the-magicians-retreat-234098-v20n8 really makes you wonder

longtimereader said...

Not prince andrew. No way he would face any jail time. He would be 'accident-ed' or given a bottle of scotch and a revolver.

Jordyn said...

David Copperfield: Musha Cay, Bahamas

One island simply wouldn’t do for world-renowned magician David Copperfield, so he settled for 11 small islets that make up the Bahamas’ Musha Cay, where he began building a 700-acre resort in 2006. He quickly transformed it into a magician’s playground with a Gilligan’s Island vibe. He has described it as a place where he can “create magic in three dimensions,” a resort that is part paradise, part eerie Disney World, with hidden drive-in movie theaters and dark passageways through the jungle that lead to a monkey village. Though the island’s thatched huts can accommodate hundreds, only 24 guests are welcome at a time, for a cool $265,000 a week per person.

Mag said...

@Khaleesi - IF this is about Copperfield, the sentence about fees could mean he had always chrged the same for his shows, but when he opened the island business, the started charging 4x that price. As in: he wouldn't be getting any separate income for the island visits, but instead he would be getting paid much more for his shows or appearances as a way of transferring money for the side services. I;m just looking as possible interpretations. Does anyone know how to check DC's legitimate income from Asian sources and how it changed over time?

Liv said...

David Copperfield.

There was that claim from a woman who visited his island in 2009; she was discredited as a 'liar' and 'crazy'.

Also, he was deposed in the Epstein trial.

Liv said...

Dang. You all are fast. +1 for Copperfield, that sick fuck.

Rafael said...

Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump

Khaleesi said...

Thanks @Mag and @Justin!

http://gawker.com/5341712/david-copperfields-island-of-horror

Khaleesi said...

@Rafael, what drugs are you on that makes you think Trump has laid low for the past decade?

Cail Corishev said...

The Forbes article I'm reading makes it sound like Musha Cay is part of this 11-island set, and he bought Musha Cay in 2006, but maybe he owned some of the others before that? It's not clear.

I would note that Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google, was married there in 2007. So don't expect the Blogger problems to improve after this one, I guess.

Rinky said...

A few celebrities who own islands:

Johnny Depp: Little Halls Pond Cay, Bahamas
Nic Cage: Nicholas Cage- Leaf Cay, Bahamas ... bought in 2006! Cage has certainly been out of the limelight in recent years.
Marlon Brando – Tetiaroa, French Polynesia
Leonardo DiCaprio – Blackadore Cay, Belize ... bought in 2005.
Mel Gibson – Mago Island, Fiji .. bought in 2005.
Ricky Martin- Island in Angra dos Reis, Brazil ... bought in 2008.
Eddie Murphy – Rooster Cay, Bahamas ... bought in 2007.
David Copperfield – Musha Cay, Bahamas .. bought chain of four islands here in 2006, apparently rents them out for 60k a night.

I'd take a guess it's either Cage or Copperfield given the dates and the fact both haven't been high profile for a while.

maile said...

http://www.tmz.com/2007/11/15/copperfields-island-under-investigation/

Joseph P Blow, Kokomo PD said...

If it was Magic Dave, who was the person who was made to seem crazy?

ccryder said...

Forget me not - known as Myosotis flower, which in Greek means mouse's ear (is this Disney? Disney??) David's called his island "the most magical vacation destination in the world", which I thought was Disney or at least that's what they say. The islands he purchased around Musha Cay are named "Forbidden Island, Enchanted Island, Secret Cay, and Imagine Island," which are not sketchy at all.

Forget me nots are also called scorpion grass, but yeah, I got nothing there.

No idea if this means anything or I just totally fell down a wormhole on the webs. Breaking the wrist and walking away. #rookie

Cail Corishev said...

@Khaleesi, Donald Trump and Mel Gibson are automatic guesses for every blind. I guess no one thinks James Woods can afford an island.

Jaime said...

LONG LONG LONG time lurker. Years of lurking. Not sure why I'm having the urge to post, but here goes! I love all the detective work on here always!

I think you are on to something with it being David Copperfield: http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/david-copperfield-cancels-shows-in-southeast-asia-amid-fbi-probe/81840284

If you google search his name with Epstein he shows up as well.

It kind of creeps me out. I've been all over the Exumas and in the water by Musha Cay is an awesome statue (under the water) of a mermaid at a grand piano. I shudder to think that awful stuff was going on there as well.

Lots of the islands in the Exumas are celebrity owned. I think some have changed hands over the years but Tim McGraw and Faith Hill had one, Johnny Depp still does, Nicholas Cage (who I'll mention again), agh...there's more but I'm forgetting. A lot of celebrities have islands in the Abacos too. However, I still think the David Copperfield connection makes sense.

Another celebrity I thought of that own islands or did in that area are Nick Cage who has had mega money issues. He has stayed in spotlight a bit but with terrible roles not at all like the big ones he used to have.

Justin said...

Huh, from Wikipedia:

On May 7, 2009, Copperfield was dropped by Michael Jackson from Jackson's residency at the O2 Arena after an alleged disagreement over money. Copperfield wanted $1 million (£666,000) per show.[36] Copperfield denied the reports of a falling out, saying "don't believe everything you read."[37] News of Copperfield's collaboration with Jackson first surfaced on April 1, 2009, and has since been reported by several websites as a possible April Fool's prank.

No idea as to what it could mean, just an interesting confluence of two suspicious men and an allegedly jacked up fee. But is this after his brush with the law when he's supposed to have been laying low?

JrSlims said...

On the island list - don't forget Canadian clothier Peter Nygard - he also owns an island in the Bahamas (Nygard Cay I think) and had tons of sexual allegations against him, some involving underage girls. https://nypost.com/2015/12/06/inside-the-wild-bahama-battle-between-two-wacky-billionaires/

Heskato said...

David certainly adds an extra spicy dimension to this coincidence:

"George HW Bush said his favorite magician was ‘David-Cop-a-feel’ as he allegedly groped a woman, it has been reported."


http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/26/george-hw-bush-said-favorite-magician-was-david-cop-a-feel-while-groping-woman-7029198/

Justin said...

Also from Wikipedia:

Copperfield has stated that the islands may contain the Fountain of Youth, a claim which resulted in him receiving a Dubious Achievement Award from Esquire Magazine in 2006.[55]

Hmmmmmmm, or is it a fountain of youths? (Haha jesus christ I only discovered this site a few weeks ago, only started commenting today, but i'm becoming quite suspicious and paranoid.)

texasrose said...

I'm liking the Copperfield guess. He has sure laid low for a while but is still permanent A celebrity (not actor.)

Coolbrady said...

https://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-sex-slave-scandal-that-exposed-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein/

BayAreaGirl said...

@DH, that is a very good find.

@Khaleesi, you're not reading it wrong. Copperfield bought the property in 2003 using straw man tactics to conceal his identity from the seller (who originally wouldn't sell to Copperfield). That's probably why the property records are off.

Dr.VanNostren said...

It's Branson, Makepeace Island. ICMEC. Whom was Obama playing with not long ago?

Carolyn said...

totally +1 on the Copperfield guess.

so this part was interesting: "In return, this group of people got names and contacts and also all those clips."

Sounds like Copperfield basically got a plea deal in exchange for handing over dirt on his "clients".

October said...

My bet is Coperfield and the Bushes.

just sayin' said...

+1 for copperfield. you cinched it for me, dh, with the literary reference.

Khaleesi said...

@BayAreaGirl - ahhh, saw that someone sued him for that! Thanks ;)

Count Jerkula said...

Clintons didnt come to power a decade agon the Obamas did.

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Unknown said...

Spielberg owns an island.

John Doe said...

I thought of Copperfield too. I wondered if the FBI raid might have had anything to do with any of this. I couldn't find anything specific about him spending a lot of time in Asia, but he did many tours there and most of the rest of the blind fits. Life DID "come crashing down hard" for him after the raid. Even though news reports at the time said that the feds confiscated millions of dollars of his money, the FBI denied this. What they actually took were his computer hard drive and the memory card from his digital camera. This suggests to me that they were tipped off that he had child porn and that he was laundering dirty money and that's what they came for. This fits the part of the blind that says he took porno photos of the kids. Seriously, who keeps millions of dollars in cash in a warehouse except a criminal who's looking for a way to rinse it?

He was forced to cancel many of his tour venues---and he had a big tour planned for Asia right at around the time when the Feds busted him. He had to lay low because of the ongoing investigations. I had long heard that he is a pedophile. He looks like one too. I also don't think that the A-lister is an actor or director or producer because Enty would have mentioned this. So it might be him.

It seems as though they found exactly what they were looking for. But the whole case just vanished into thin air. There was a woman who had accused him of rape. She dropped the charges and vanished. The Feds never charged him with anything and suddenly dropped the case against him while offering no explanations at all. All the evidence disappeared---including the cash.

Auntie Histimine said...

@John Doe: Ask "Dance Mom" Abby Lee Miller (who's now in jail) about the cash Fed's confiscate. She said hers seemed to have "disappeared" as well. Guess that's the usual.

Nikleigh said...

Where's Himmmm when you need them.. Some confirmation would be appreciated!

vicci thomas said...

He's a creepy looking dude anyway, those eyebrows are enough to give you nightmares.

SDaly said...

This blind is further building up the idea in my mind that, now that government files are under different control, people who were protected are no longer being protected.

Cece said...

Mel Gibson. Absolutely.

Don Kieballs said...

When looking for Copperfield Epstein connections, I found a background check someone had run on Epstein. It's from 2011, but it's there so I share. https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-jeffrey-edward-epstein-project/background-check/268877063144942/

Bijou South said...

Does Roman Polanski own an island?

RingoSkater said...

Heh, I like the Copperfield quote, "create magic in three dimensions." As opposed to how many?

ancoranonhocapito said...

I immediately thought of Copperfield too, but why disregarding the clue about Asia? Most of the people mentioned here have bought islands in the Bahamas, and they have done so in the past 10 years or little more, so they don't really fit. Gibson doesn't fit also, since he bought his island in 2005 and Fiji is not Asia as it has been noted. I think we are looking at an ownership which was never disclosed or publicized. I figure in Cambodia which is alleged to be a pedophile paradise.

Kam White said...

Good one, @DH

11:11 AM
Blogger DH said...
Ok, so in the Charles Dickens novel "David Copperfield", David gives his first wife a ring shaped like forget me nots...

Dr.VanNostren said...

https://www.icmec.org
http://makepeaceisland.com/

wade-o-potatoface said...

Ah. You beat me to it by a minute. Well done, good sir.

Unknown said...

2007 is when Epstein got a cushy non-prosecution deal with feds in Fla. Was the subject of this blind involved and covered up?

Apricot29 said...

This is TOTALLY copperfield. He's always given me the creepy vibe. Now I know why.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/david-copperfields-rape-investigation-vanishes/story?id=9675140

Charles Fromage said...

"There was a woman who had accused [Copperfield] of rape. She dropped the charges and vanished."

She was eventually arrested for prostitution and filing a false rape charge against another man.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/david-copperfields-rape-investigation-vanishes/story?id=9675140

I doubt it is Copperfield mainly because I know (good) people in the magic community who know Copperfield, have visited his warehouse and island, and I think something would have come out by now. That community has never (in my experience) been shy about outing creeps and villians in the past.

Sue T. said...

Googling Jeffrey Epstein +David Copperfield brings up a lot of damning stuff, and not just from conspiracy-minded websites. Very shady.

Off topic: Enty tweeted last night about a story that is supposed to drop today in the mainstream media, apparently a HUGE pedo reveal (this was teased by the "An Open Secret" folks). NOT Singer. I wish it would hurry up and get here!! I'm so curious.

Dr.VanNostren said...

@johndoe

What, do you keep "your money" at a bank? Read the fine print, you're the bank's creditor.

Himmmm said...

David Copperfield
Jeffery Epst. for the friend
(you guys got every part of that right no doubt).
As for who arranged for him to be cut free?
For those detectives here, go look at those websites that show political donations going back many years. Look back and see who David Copperfield has supported politically with his money or fundraising or PACs. Then ask = Who was in office when his problems went away?
Then see who was in the Cabinet posts. And Staff posts, etc.
They're the ones who cut him loose.
That's not me pointing political fingers -
it's just what the blind indicates.

I've never known the guy...too odd.
But I knew Claudia Schiffer once.
She's a very damaged person.
NO FEMALE I have ever known is as bizarre, kinky, or twisted as her. So it wouldn't surprise me she and Copperfield got along so well.
For a while anyway.
And a LOT of girls accused him of rape over the years.
You folks are some mashing sleuths!

Halloweenie said...

Don't forget that our dear Cheryl in charge was very very good friends with Epstein in the 90's. Trump attended many of Epsteins parties and had a woman say he raped her at an Epstein party in 90's. She was 13 at the time. She later was paid off or intimidated into recanting. Donald Trump has been accused of sexual harassment or assault by at least 16 women. Newsweekl's Chris riotta has an excellent article up about the Trump/Epstein connection. Sadly I feel pizzagate and some of these other conspiracy theories were started by trump operatives in order to throw people off the trail of truth that leads right back to Trump himself. He's going on a witch hunt to get the press off his trail. It's classic deflection and gaslighting. Not to say the others aren't pedos as well but I'm saying trump is right there with all his former buddies.

Halloweenie said...

Cheeto in charge * autocorrect

My.answer.is.xyz said...

+ 1 for DC. He was accused of rape June of 2007

In November of 2007, he was sued $2.2 mil for companies in Indonesia for breach of contract

John Doe said...

@Ancoran, the blind doesn't actually say that the A lister's island is in Asia, only that he himself spent time there and that he was using a company there to book his tours. The tour company was one that specializes in booking very rich men who want to have sex with underaged girls. It makes sense that such a sleazy company would operate someplace overseas and far away. "Asia" is a HUGE place where a LOT of trafficking of drugs and people takes place all the time...even now. The nasty of farts who were booking these tours came on boats...probably via Miami.

He got busted in 2007. It would seem right around the time of his breakup with Sonia Uribe. I imagine that she was the honeypot that set him up to get busted. Whoever has those photos and videos now own his soul. He was close friends with the Bushes and the Clintons as well, and I'm sure that they were the ones who made all his problems disappear, and knowing them, it likely cost him quite and bit more than the $2 million that the FBI already took.

Liv said...

Hmm...@my.answer.is, that's a good find. But it's for canceled shows after the rape accusation. Unless that's a front. However, I'm not sure they could sue for canceled "shows" if they weren't really shows. Ya know?

Still sticking with Copperfield.

Dr.VanNostren said...

@halloweenie

You partisans (left and right) will never learn. That's how you're easily controlled. Yes, the amazing press, hot on his trail! Telling you not to look into those silly "conspiracy theories".

SDaly said...

His problems went away in 2010. Robert Mueller was head of the FBI

Sparkly Girl said...

http://gawker.com/5341712/david-copperfields-island-of-horror

Sparkly Girl said...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/david-copperfields-magicaland-utterly-bizarrecaribbean-island

Guess the island has been covered quite a bit.

designace001 said...

By extension of the Clinton's during the Obama Administration? circa 2010 Haiti. "Under a sparingly used immigration program, called humanitarian parole, adoptions were expedited regardless of whether children were in peril, and without the screening required to make sure they had not been improperly separated from their relatives or placed in homes that could not adequately care for them.

Some Haitian orphanages were nearly emptied, even though they had not been affected by the quake or licensed to handle adoptions. Children were released without legal documents showing they were orphans and without regard for evidence suggesting fraud."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/world/americas/04adoption.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/haiti/8328850/Haiti-earthquake-children-sold-by-traffickers-for-as-little-as-76-pence-each.html

John Doe said...

@Himmmmm I maintain that it was the collective of the Bushes and the Clintons that freed him. They set things up for their friend Jeffrey Epstein to get off pretty easy too. These people are all illuminati, and they are all friends. The whole demon worship/child rape/big money thing is second nature to them. They do it all the time. They're probably doing it right now.

If I had to narrow it down to just one person I would say it was: Hillary Clinton to cut him loose. She was SoS at the time and VERY powerful in the Obama cabinet. Her relationship with Copperfield goes back years. He was very close friends with Bill due to their weird (though special) relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and he also a donor to the Clinton Foundation. Her friend, Mueller was also head of the FBI at the time---an extremely corrupt man who was initially nominated by George W Bush... appointed by president Clinton and then kept on by president Obama. He lined up his best friend and partner in crime, James Comey (who also had private business dealings with the Clintons) for the FBI gig before he left the position.

Sorry, I don't mean to get political or partisan. There is corruption and rot on both sides.

Jaime said...

Not sure I've seen this posted, but yuck...has all the players and disgusting happenings.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2094682

Cail Corishev said...

Robert Mueller made a lot of problems go away over the years since becoming FBI director on Sept. 4, 2001. (Note how this comment bipartisanly spans two administrations.) None of them are buried permanently, let's hope. He seems to be on a bit of a hot seat himself lately, doesn't he?

T.W. Daniels said...

Copperfield
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2094682

T.W. Daniels said...

You just beat me to it..

Admin User said...

yeah copperfield.

magicians know how to hide things. like, hidden cameras...

micmac said...

The literary connection says it all. David Copperfield

delete account said...

Interesting @Justin...
And then MJ dies suddenly the next month....

Rinky said...

For what it's worth:

Personal History of David Copperfield (1850)/Chapter 18

"I repair to the enchanted house, where there are lights, chattering, music, flowers, officers (I am sorry to see), and the eldest Miss Larkins, a blaze of beauty. She is dressed in blue, with blue flowers in her hair—forget-me-nots—as if she had any need to wear forget-me-nots! It is the first really grown-up party that I have ever been invited to, and I am a little uncomfortable; for I appear not to belong to anybody, and nobody appears to have anything to say to me, except Mr. Larkins, who asks me how my schoolfellows are, which he needn't do, as I have not come there to be insulted. "

Taylor said...

Clinton and Epstein were good buddies. Bill also is connected to Frank Giustra the Canadian mining billionaire with a sketchy boys charity.

Acad said...

This thread/particular blind item is making me depressed and reducing my faith in humanity if this allegation is true. I always believed in the concept of America being a place of truth and justice even if a lot of bad things have happened in its history. I guess I always believed that the truth would eventually come out because there were honest people. But how is something like this ever going to be exposed. And the mainstream press can't be trusted either because they sell their souls to the celebrities and government in exchange for access. They only really pursue people who don't go with the accepted narrative or who the powers that be decide are expendable. It's like a uniparty where Americans are given an illusion of choice. Also I'm pretty sure this coverup happened during the Obama administration as it was full of Clintonites. And once again, these politicians are claiming to clean house.

J said...

Schiffer? According to this public outpouring, we have been forced to beleive that all women could be is slightly complicit. :D

Himmmm said...

Sorry OT for this thread (sorts) but wanted you to know the big story in Hollywood today is an expose on Singer from one his "boys" whom Singer used and threw away, and Singer's agent pal Grasham raped. Gross and tragic. Read at Deadline:

http://deadline.com/2017/12/bryan-singer-teen-ex-lover-hollywood-sex-drugs-party-life-1202216936/

PS - it's a real story, unlike Singer's puff piece from TMZ yesterday.

Alexandria Anna said...

What a world, even freaking magician is a pervert...MAGICIAN!!

When I saw that photo of Singer with boys, it already made me feel sick..the whole thing is nauseating, and so far he's officially accused of only ONE rape...How come..

PookieTwo said...

I want Himmmm to come back and tell us about Claudia Schiffer's kinks lol. Did you know her 'well'?

I've followed gossip as long as it's been online (a long time) and there were rumors during the Supermodel era of the mid-90s that Claudia was a big freak. The sweet blonde apple-cheeked German Bardot thing hid a very different reality.

Katherine Manley said...

To your point; the fact that America's sweet heart Today host bit the dust...progress. It is a sad day when you realize all your movie star hero's and the people on your tv were preyed upon by predators - it's just like the shit with priests or boy scouts. I feel bad writing this but I am that disillusioned - ugh. That 19yo kid in the lasted Singer - I feel bad for him and the many others who fell for Singers shit but also he was of legal age. So. Yeah.

Acad said...

Ugh. I read the deadline article. It's just another case when nothing can be done legally because a lot of the details come off as consensual and legal. This boy was passed around like a piece of meat (making him more and more unreliable as a witness in the process) and basically had to continue in order to support himself. He was used and then tossed aside. I suspect it will be hard to find the underage boys or credible witnesses to finally have a legal case against this man.

Gretchen said...

Stop all this political bs about Comey/Mueller/Clinton without proof. It makes me think the readers of this site are low information. If you can find something actually linking them from a non Alex Jones site, then okay.

Melody Clark said...

I love how the new bots and kek trolls come in to make this about the black guy. Ten years ago was PRE Obama.

The new power coming in is fairly obvious - Donald Trump, friend of Epstein, and known pedophile. Clinton is also hip deep n this, but the power is Trump.

I'd tend to believe it's not Gibson. He started crashing longer ago than that.

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Taylor said...

Trump came in in 2017. This occurred during the Obama and Clinton (SOS) years.

soychicka said...

It could definitely be Copperfield/Epstein... so long as nothing implies that the friend who helped him set everything up is free and clear.

My sources tell me Epstein handed a bunch of tapes over to Schneidermann late this summer when it was made clear that "Maria's" missing persons case had been discovered... and he's not free and clear on anything.

( Hi Jeffrey! Can't wait to hear what you have to say about the land near the sleeping giants... )

Rinky said...

The Copperfield rape charges were filed in 2007 (Bush admin) and dropped in 2010 (Obama admin with the Clinton Foundation and Hilary at their height).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8456070.stm

The FBI seizure of electronics and $2million in cash from his Vegas warehouse was in 2007 (Bush admin), investigaton dropped in 2010 (Obama admin).

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-copperfield/fbi-raids-magician-david-copperfield-in-vegas-idUSN182550820071019

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/david-copperfields-rape-investigation-vanishes/story?id=9675140

Cold hard facts.

Liv said...

That site is full of white nationalist garbage.

Watching white nationalists call out the misdeeds of others would be HILARIOUS if it weren't so frightening.

Liv said...

I'd be fully guilty for kneeing you in the groin. :D

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Unknown said...

2010 was the citizens united decision

Count Jerkula said...

Math is tough. This year is closer to 10yrs ago than 8yrs ago is. And really, Obama came to power 9yrs ago when he started whuppin Crazy Eyes Clinton in the primaries and the Dems chucked her right under the bus.

Julie said...

I'm calling Chris Tucker on this one https://www.thedailybeast.com/chris-tuckers-journey-from-tax-problems-to-silver-linings-playbook can't find him owning an island though but he was in bother in 2006 and he's acquainted with Obama.

Land Manatee said...

@acad - Agree. The article just gives more insight into Singer's lifestyle and tactics, but falls short of highlighting any "criminal" activity. Too many consensual facets. Similar to the Dustin Hoffman article published today that details a more predatory account, but I feel will not carry much weight on its own.
I feel for both victims in these instances, believe their stories and am glad they have come forward, but I feel there still needs to be a few more similar stories against these 2 particular men to have an impact or show a pattern of malicious intent and deprevity.
If these were the 2 big stories to come out that some were alluding too, they were a bit of a let down. Based on the hype, I expected bigger names, an unimaginable person and/or evidence to blow the lid on this topic.
However, the Disney music exec story posted today someone linked to in this post or another is worth reading and following. That asshole was actually arrested, posted bail and charged with molesting underage children, one starting at 11 yo! Anyone have any insider knowledge on the bastard or the situation there?

Catsup said...

Epstein is a Palm Beach boy..you know, right around the corner from the Winter White House.

Land Manatee said...

Found the link about Disney Exec Jon Heely. Originally posted by My Answer Is XYZ:

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/jon-heely-disney-music-group-child-sex-abuse-1202634502/

Jim Corrigan said...

A lot of this stuff is in a series of Gawker articles(7/29/11-1/30/10), minus the children. Torture chambers are also mentioned. However, Gawker apologizes for getting things wrong because the local barney fifes said his accuser was a prostitute, so she must lie? Someone earlier listed celebrity islands, they matter. VICE, which is a rapey publication to begin with did an article about his fountain of youth pitch. Adam Leith Gollner and Rafael Katiglook are authors, also wait to see if their name are mentioned in VICE's big sex scandal metoo# moment. Sanctuary off limits to Vice reporters, but OBVIOUS stolen artifacts from Sri Lanka India and SE Asia. Also their was a camera in the guys room hidden in mask, they say. Forget kiddie diddling ahat may and should be gotten on stolen artifacts racket.He deserves death for that, I take my antiquities seriously. He was supposedly worth 53 million in 2000, money problems? Too many holes still.

Jim Corrigan said...

Addition before I leave. Check out the story about Peter Gerard Scully in the Philippines if you don't believe this stuff is real sometimes. Finally, can someone hack Cambodia's Foreign Registry. Basically, I'll view any American male traveling their as pedophile. Not many Americans go their, even now.

346NYC said...

The Bushes, Clinton's and the rest of the demon spawn went offshore after the Franklin Coverup was successfully Covered Up.
They covered up most of it, except for that photo of Jonny Gosch and George Bush Sr. that popped up a few years back.

Now, that's not to say there aren't children being held as slaves in billionaires basements today,
but it seems they feel they can relax, rape, and voodoo on private islands with less fear of being exposed.

That being said, You might feel comfortable with debauchery on the mainland if you're at the White House?
Remember the $65,000 worth of hotdogs Obama ordered sent to the White House?
I think those were Haitian Hot Dogs? That's what people were reporting anyway.

Remember Hillary's BFF Laura Silsby who was caught and arrested trafficking kids in Haiti?
Hillary intervened and then put her in charge of Amber Alert somewhere in the country.
It was all in Hillary's emails on Wikileaks.

Bush, Clinton and Obama OWN David Copperfield.
They're likely still making a killing, literally and figuratively, on David Copperfield's private island.

Guesser said...

I agree with the Copperfield guess,it may be that the coverup was to avoid the info about Epstein coming out. The forget me not clue is key,and the timing fits. Would someone credit first guess of him?

plot said...

People seem to be blaming US politicians for "making Copperfield's problems disappear, but that's a very short sighted view of how this works. The executive branch of our government cannot influence Dept of Justice investigations (which is why Donny Drumpf is in a heap of trouble right now.). Furthermore, we don't know if Copperfield copped a plea and coughed up information. In fact, we don't know why Copperfield has practically given up performing, no longer tours, and completely fell off the map. Pedo cases are complicated by the fact that sources of information are pedos and rapists themselves and often must be protected and often their plea deals are not made public for many years (as is often the case with gang members, too.)

Cail Corishev said...

@346NYC, good information. But it sounds like something Alex Jones might have talked about once, so never mind.

Seriously, though, the part I wonder about is why the policy would change so much from Bush to Obama. As you note, they're the same gang, especially offshore. Why would the Bushes have been gung-ho to prosecute him, in other words? Maybe they weren't, exactly, but some good agents from the old days got their teeth into the case from the beginning and couldn't have been sidelined easily. The change of administration would offer the chance to replace people, doing early retirements and such, getting rid of them so certain cases could be buried.

BayAreaGirl said...

I would agree that the change in administration shouldn’t make the difference. They usually keep the local US attorneys, who decide what cases to pursue. If this is Copperfield, I wonder if the disappearance of his criminal case was related to the US Attorney dismissal scandal? John McKay, the AUSA for Western WA was forced out in Jan. 2007 and Daniel Bogden in NV the following month. However this was months before the Copperfield investigations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy

Zophie Enzo said...

I can't help wonder, since it seemed to just go away, if, in fact, the person actually rolled and and is an informant. This is all so hugely disgusting. I don't see how the FBI would turn a blind eye to sex trafficking of minors under any circumstance.

And if this person owns an island that's in another country, would that necessarily be public knowledge? Like how would that be known?

I've heard Depp's islands have no electricity and are undeveloped, but maybe they are by now. But I've also heard he's not that bad of a guy. Doesn't seem to fit, but who knows.

Cyndy said...

Definitely David Copperfield, It all fits. He was accused of rape in July 2007. The charges disappeared late January 2009 just after
Obama took office from GWB. The "accuser" was indeed made out to be crazy and a liar. He has known contact with Epstein.

https://nypost.com/2009/08/20/rape-lawsuit-vs-magician-copperfield/
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/david-copperfields-rape-investigation-vanishes/story?id=9675140
https://www.today.com/popculture/copperfield-cancels-upcoming-shows-asia-1C9418443


Liv said...

The US Government might turn a blind eye if they had blackmail material deemed "more valuable" than a sex conviction. That client list could offer a lot of leverage for many, many years.

vicci thomas said...

@Himmmm So is Pizzagate a real thing or not? I hope it isn't, but some of the things I'm reading are just too much of a coincidence!

Some people shout it down as nonsense and a conspiricy, and then others are shouting it from the rooftops, I don't know what to thing *Shudder*

On another note @Enty and @Just saying I have tagged (is that the right word, I'm crap on Twitter?) you into a retweet about Tom Hanks, any word on what that is, I don't want to think it is, but my childhood hero's and crushes have all turned out to be scumbags so far and I am a wreck of my normal self, so I wouldn't be shocked anymore :o(

M Ag said...

No, I don't remember hearing of Obama ordering $65,000 worth of hot dogs...

K said...

I think it’s Mel Gibson. I think this blind is stating the girls are from Asia but the island isn’t necessarily in Asia-the girls were sent there on the pretense of studying abroad.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/mel-gibson-is-just-mad-for-fijian-cows/news-story/7dbc0f478d11206357fd97a65d90a31c

plot said...

@vicci, Pizzagate was complete nonsense. The claims of a torture chamber in the basement of a pizza joint, when the building had no basement, is enough to elevate your delicious fears there.

@Liv, no, the US government wouldn't turn a blind eye if there was blackmail involved. That's simply not how things work. The government is too complex to blackmail as a whole entity. Your use of "blind eye" is wrong too if you are talking FBI. There is a lot of information that can be gained from someone deep inside a pedo ring or a Russian gang. A "blind eye" wouldn't be turned against such a person so much as he/she would be hidden from view, probably already have charges leveled against them but that would also be hidden since he/she couldn't look like they had been compromised by and investigation. Get it?

Cyndy - what contact was there between Epstein and Obama pray tell? Epstein was under house arrest by the time Obama was elected. Tell us all your great insider knowledge, please.

@BayAreaGirl, do you see the trouble Drumpf is now it for trying to influence the DoJ and the FBI like a king would? It's illegal under our system of government. Investigations cannot be influenced by the executive branch of government. Best review your civics class.

Taylor said...

Senior Disney music exec ( Director of music publishing) Jon Heely charged with molesting two underage girls.

Cail Corishev said...

@vicci, I wrote an answer to your question as someone who has been (mildly) involved in pizzagate, and it got long, so I put it on my own blog. Feel free to read it there if you want. (I hope linking to myself doesn't break any rules here; figured that was better than a 4000-char comment.) https://cailcorishev.wordpress.com/2017/12/09/what-is-pizzagate-very-short-version/

I'll just add here: Pizzagate is going to keep coming up in blinds like this. Not because the people involved are all pedophiles, but because the massive amount of research that's gone into pizzagate over the past year-plus has given us a huge repository of data on connections between powerful/famous people, their organizations, businesses, properties, investments, foreign connections, positions held, arrests, etc. If you're investigating nefarious activities by powerful people, you're probably going to find yourself intersecting with it.

If the story you heard about Hanks is the one I saw, where she says she's still recovering memories, I would be wary of it. The memory-recovery thing is sketchy -- I don't necessary think it's a scam, but the target can't defend himself against memories you're still recovering. I'd suggest waiting until she recovers them, and see what she has to say then. Her other accusations about someone else are pretty wild, and while I wouldn't assume they're false, someone could be using her to discredit the idea of outing abusers by having her put out stories most people will see as crazy.

AIP said...

The mention of Claudia Schiffer reminds me of my favourite super, Karen Mulder. She levelled all of these accusations (including A+ List Royalty) repeatedly in 2001 and even her own family immediately denounced her as crazy and had her committed, because she “had difficulties adjusting to retirement” (I ask you!), even though the Paris police did begin investigating. AND one of the men accused, Gérald Marie head of Elite, was filmed propositioning a 15 year old (the magic number in France as sexual offences against people under 15 attract a much stiffer sentence).

Land Manatee said...

@cail corishev - can you provide a link to tom hanks story? If I'm not mistaken, enty hinted at him in a blind in recent months.

vicci thomas said...

Thank you for that Cail I will have a look, it's just so mind boggling with everything that I don't know what is true or not, and then there is always something to read, and then you get stuck down a rabbit hole, after about an hour I'm convinced that we are all in a flat earth in an alternative universe lol

John Doe said...

Pizzagate is not nonsense. It has been brushed aside as nonsense by the media---using Saul Alinsky tactics and CIA style disinformation propaganda. Read the wikileaks emails and go deeper into illuminati symbolism and codes. These people are not talking about pizzas and hotdogs in those emails. They are talking about children and a child sex operation. Who the hell spends $65,000 on pizza? And who was recently caught trying to smuggle children out of one country under the guise of a charitable organization? Please!

The illuminati stuff is dead on real. If you research it with a truly open mind you're going to discover things that you would wish you didn't know. Child rape/sacrifice/ cannibalism, and demon worship in these secret societies is what the illuminati, the Jesuits, the Free Masons, and others are all about. Most people know very little to nothing about any of this stuff because they know and believe only the bubblegum stuff that they see on the 'news'.

Why else would high profile people like Hillary Clinton and John Podesta be talking about Moloch and hanging out with extremist Luciferians. Could it be that they themselves are also Luciferians? Do you know who Moloch is? He's not just any god. He is a god that the ancients used to sacrifice children to.

Pay attention. This is not just about child porn or horny men who like little girls. It goes way beyond that. Do the research. Look up Epstein's Island. The photos are all over the internet. There is a demon worship temple there with a gold-plated owl (representing Moloch) mounted on the top of it.

These Satan worshiping pedophiles have been doing these things in secret for thousands of years. It is not a coincidence that they are all very wealthy people. They are rewarded by the demons with wealth and success. And they get away with it because people in the world refuse to believe that any of this is true. Pedophilia and child trafficking aren't just real. They are big business because they are very profitable for the folks who run the child sex ring---in exactly the way that is mentioned in this blind. This is why I believe Enty's and Himmmmm's blinds about this stuff.

This is not low-information. Its actually very high quality information coming from a person who knows this shit from first hand experience. It is real! And its not just about Hillary and Bill or Democrats because there are a whole lot of people on the other side who are involved in it too. Lets just say that many things in life are not at all what they seem. But, it seems as though its all coming out now. Little by little.

vicci thomas said...

Illuminate is something I need to look at, I hear it branded around quite a lot but not really taken time to read up about it, I kind of have an idea, but I may be wrong.

You have to understand that I am a really new follower of EVERYTHING, literally, I stumbled across this site a month or so again after happily living in my little bubble thinking Hollywood was all glitz and glamour, and finding out that is it just a seedy cesspool of pervs and gay people pretending to be straight, which still makes no sense to me btw.

My rose specs have well and truly be removed, but I am only just starting to read about all of these horrific things about all of these vile people.

Although I don't disbelieve anything anymore, devil worship has got to be up there in my "WTF is this shit real?" book.

plot said...

@John Doe, who brushed what aside exactly? The whole government, plus at least 2 state governments, PLUS the FBI, PLUS special investigations ALL brushed Pizzagate aside? How is that possible? It's not, that is the long and short of it. Nothing is "brushed aside" that way by the larger entities you claim, all in collusion. You are making it smaller for your convenience only.

Pizzagate is utter nonsense actually thought up for the US public by foreign forces. Congratulations! You've been played!

Sandy 2319 said...

Just FYI Pizzagate/ Pedogate goes back way further than Trump. Read the Franklin Scandal that was when it really started. And Noreen Gosch the mother of Johnny Gosch the newspaper delivery boy who disappeared also was one of the ones who called it out way back in the 80's.
Please stop using political bias to accuse Trump and Mel Gibson of every shady blind. It is really annoying and I think the posters are very good at figuring it out, so maybe listen to them and look into it instead of just naming someone you personally don't like.
Also just FYI Mel Gibson has come out publicly to accuse Hollywood of systematic pedophilia, so doubt he would do that if he was one, maybe I mean it is possible but not really likely. Ever think that was why he hated "Hollywood Jews" so much????

Pink_Palace said...

My first thought was Jack Nicholson, because he suddenly quit making movies and disappeared (even from his courtside Laker seats) for around 2 years. I now think he had a stroke and disappeared for incredible pt and ot, as he is back to watching the Lakers once again...

But, he never owned an island to my knowledge.

I tried to post this yesterday, but it never posted...

I too, thought of Copperfield. A long-time friend dated him and we used to go to any show that was within a 350 mile radius.

One night, we were visiting a friend in a “party” city, staying in his college dorm for the night. My friend had a date w/him and then she met the 2 of us and we painted the town. David called while we were out and he left a message for her on the answering machine.

I don’t remember what was said exactly, but it was very perverted and disgusting. My friend told me that messages like that were why she refused to be his girlfriend. Small doses...

What I do remember is the shock we were ALL in, that he left the message on a college boy’s answering machine and he didn’t seem to care who heard it. I also remember that I never went to another show, because he disgusted me. My friend quit dating him, but he still called her long after he and Claudia Schiffer got together.

LindseyJo Martinez said...

@JohnDoe you are totally on point. Lets not forget the Builderberg society as well. World Wide corruption trying to put the NWO into place.

@Plot you insinuated that Pizzagate is not real and I believe although there was not a "dungeon" in pingpong Pizza if you watch undercover videos from that place there is NOTHING family friendly about it at all. There should never be a child in that place EVER.

David Copperfield has multiple islands in the Bahamas. He also had an accusation is super liberal Washington state end in 2010 (Obama admin) The accuser is the one that ended up in jail. (SMDH)
I also could see that weirdo Nic Cage as the person cause he spent so much time in Asia but to many other things dont fit where they fit Copperfield.

Since the latest FBI revelations came out just a couple days ago and the corruption of the FBI over the last 16 years From Mueller to Comey, I have no issue in believing whoever was handling that it disappeared for a fee.

plot said...

@Lindsey a place doesn't have to be Disney pink to be kid friendly. Do you think art museums are too scandalous for kids? Thankfully my parents didn't and gave me a well rounded exposure to art, music and theatre much of which would have probably shocked you and stirred your outrage. The photos I've seen of the interiors of the pizza joint didn't strike me as anything special or adult or shocking. I have no idea what twisted your panties about the place.

The foreigners who devised Pizzagate said there was DEFINITELY a torture dungeon in the non-existent basement. If you are still giving their theories the benefit of the doubt, there is no helping you.

plot said...

@Lindsey OH! And by the way, it's a public establishment so what do you mean about undercover video? The place is open for anyone to see.

Henlo Fren said...

Some people on here trying to make pizzagate continue to happen. But are okay looking the other way when a child molester is about to be elected to the Senate. You have real confessions and statements by police to back up the accusations.

plot said...

Thanks Henlo, I’ve noticed as well on cdan comments the effort to keep the ridiculous pizzagate alive. Also notice above the effort to include Mark Cuban in some scandal. Some folks here have an agenda, for sure, and honestly it even taints all the bis for me

BayAreaGirl said...

@plot, you misinterpret my post. I actually agree w/you. My point is that folks in DC usually don’t get involved in these cases & when they do it sets off alarm bells. It would be more likely that the case got dropped amidst the shuffle during transition between local AUSA’s. A close friend worked as an Attorney in one of those offices & he quit out of disillusionment along with a dozen others. I was a young attorney at the time with several clients facing prosecution. Amidst the chaos, the new AUSA was more willing to cut deals. So I could see how Copperfield’s was dropped by a new Prosecutor.

plot said...

@BayAreaGirl my bad, what you say makes sense. It may or may not be coincidence that Copperfield disappeared from the public eye after the rape accusation. I see he is still making piles of money; but he also angered investors in a defunct restaurant chain. He had a child without the public knowing for a couple years. His behavior says to me that he is in hiding, perhaps for information that came out of an investigation (the raiding of his warehouse) or his cooperation or he screwed over business investors. Who knows.

J.D. said...

It doesn't necessarily have to be a change in American government. Recently the very conservative Monarch of Thailand died, and was replaced with his son, who is...yeah, just google that guy. That's all I'm gonna say.

Cail Corishev said...

I said my piece about pizzagate, so I'll just add: if people want to know about it, it's all online. No one will know if you check out "nonsense" in the privacy of your own home. The Voat archive is probably a good place to start. Give yourself a few days to explore, because again, it's not one claim or theory that you can believe or debunk. It's a massive gathering of public information, much of which is surely irrelevant, that takes time to come to grips with.

There was a recent blind here about a pedophile operation being run by powerful Hollywood figures centered on a "boys club" that has abused a hundred boys or more. If that's possible, I don't see why the same sort of thing involving other powerful people in a different location is so laughable. Decide for yourself.

plot said...

"The Voat archive"

Ah yes Voat, the place where Reich Wing conspiracies go that are even too stupid for Reddit and 4chan.


"There was a recent blind here about a pedophile operation being run by powerful Hollywood figures centered on a "boys club" that has abused a hundred boys or more. If that's possible"

How could it be possible? It's a BI, not an investigative piece. We don't know if it's real or not. Best to remember that.


PotPourri said...

In what world is David Copperfield an A Lister? blech. Magic isn't even an A Lister Profession... oh and yes, he's weird and gives off a creepy vibe...always has..

plot said...

Though I agree about magicians (most are kid's entertainers as far as I'm concerned) DC has made a shit ton of money which I guess makes him A List in his field at least.

just sayin' said...

haha potpourri - i agree, he doesn't earn many cool points anymore but he's still got a show at the mgm grand in las vegas, and forbes calls him the most successful professional magician in history. so yeah, that's a list.

Stephy said...

It's a shame the comments section of CDAN has turned into a soapbox for conspiracy nuts.

dummypants said...

Reading this blind the first name that popped into my head was Nic Cage but I didn't think he had an island. Now that commenters have confirmed he did, I 100% think it's him.

Valerie said...

Jeffery Epstein and Prince Andrew

John Cantor said...

Well hello ladies and gentlemen. I know I'm late to this discussion but believe me, it is going to get MUCH more interesting around here. See, from what I understand this place has primarily been a gossip site with a few nuggets thrown in there once in a while. Well, your Enty has upped his bidding and things are changing around here. I see that some of your members are rather uncomfortable with all of these pedophile blinds and rape accusations. It's only going to get worse folks. I'm sorry. It is time for the reaping. A time to let go of your idols. This is all orchestrated and ready for you at this time, all preplanned and ready for your enjoyment. It's going to be a bumpy ride, I do hope you can hold on! Sit back and enjoy the show.

Beyond Magic: Unclean Spirits; David Copperfield, Mulholland, Blaine, Geller; Mk-Ultra, Laurel Canyon, Carribean and Hellfire Club
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2370750

John Cantor said...

I've noticed already that Plot talk too much about shit he has no idea about.

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