Monday, March 05, 2018

Blind Item #40 - Oscars - Himmmm

It's been many, many years since we'd all been together at once, and we were all very close more than 20 years ago.  It began as I was standing and talking with this (permanent A list mostly movie actress) after the ceremony, and it brought back a lot of memories.  I could fill 100 blogs with those stories! Families, laughs, wild and good times.  A short while later this (A+ list mostly movie actor) joined us too.  Which led us to talking about being on a movie set in the 1990's of (a movie based on a book); and the director of it and things we've heard about him.  They too had heard the same awful things, especially about the director and this (former A-/B+ list mostly movie actor).

The actress told me something has always haunted her about that young actor, and the director, and another adult actor.  Then the actress floored me with what she said.  Back then she was interviewed by investigators over 20 years ago about the director and this adult actor, (disgraced former A list mostly movie actor), concerning abuse of local boys.  It was allegedly covered up by this (A list author).  It was about something the director and adult actor did while casting local boys back during the making of that one movie we were all (unfortunately) a part of back then.

She said she didn't see anything happen by the director, but may have seen something she wasn't supposed to concerning the actor.  She said the writer was being investigated then for accusations of using his considerable local legal "pull" in the locations of that film to shut down an investigation.  She was asked about it, and answered truthfully, but the entire case disappeared.  Which explains the writer's desire to move to another state not long after.  My actor friend said he too had been contacted by investigators back then about the director, but had forgotten all about it until now.  The thought made all three of us sick.

We agreed to reunite in a few months when our schedules allow, and try to find out what happened to those investigations, the boys, and if the writer did indeed shut down those cases to protect the director (whose movies were a big revenue stream which made the writer very wealthy).  We want to do this, not for a movie or television show, but for the memory of that dead young actor.  This will not be the end of it I assure you.

154 comments:

Tricia13 said...

Sandy Bullock/Matt Mac/A Time To Kill
Joel Schumacher director

Samantha Willow said...

Anne Rice? River Phoenix died while making Interview With A Vampire.

Tricia13 said...

Kevin Spacey is the Adult actor Predator and the former A-...?

Serendipty420 said...

“Legal” pull immediately made me think of Grisham. Young actor = Brad Renfro
Director = Schumacher

Tricia13 said...

John Grisham/Brad are from to full
It out

Alexandria said...

I thought Joel Schumacher too.
Great then, keep us updated on the case, I'm curious.

Juliaph said...

Himmm, do you realize you could get hurt over these blinds? We commenters think we know who you are, but sometimes you leave so many clues that the bad guys can figure it out for sure, too.

Be careful, Buddy.

MollyGolly said...

A Time to Kill. Joel Schumacher. Kevin Spacey. John Grisham. Ashley Judd. Matthew McConaughy.

Tricia13 said...

Brad renfro *

SteveD said...

I can't think of specifics, but I know Grisham has turned up in blinds before for bad behavior.

atoukzug said...

@Samantha "HIS considerable pull.."

IDoTheRobot said...

The movie is The Client w/ Brad Renfro

ccryder said...

+1 Tricia. And John Grisham for the writer. Has homes in Oxford, Mississippi and Charlottesville, VA. 2014 comments to The Telegraph about sentences for pedophiles "too harsh" in some circumstances.

frogger said...

The Client? Also Schumacher & Grisham, starred Brad Renfro.

Samantha Willow said...

Thanks got that after I posted. Need moar flu drugs.

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Admakbr said...

Stephen King for the author

DDonna Tarttty said...

Here's a link to that John Grisham quote about "too harsh" penalties for guys who look at kiddie porn.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/oct/16/john-grisham-prison-sentences-child-abuse-images

T. W. said...

This is on the tip of my tongue. If I can guess it I am sure the CDaNers will figure this out quick.

I thought Johnny Depp killed River Phoenix or had a hand in it.

Rest in peace whomever you are.

one_eyed_bob said...

I think the Himmmmm's know what they are doing...there are more than four from what I can tell....maybe it's a Dredd Pirate Robert's thing

Terry Teratoma said...

First thought for the author was Bret Easton Ellis, but that's just a hunch, I've absolutely nothing to base it on. Renfro & Grisham guesses make the most sense, IMO.

Deba said...

Brand Renfro/Bryan Singer/Apt Pupil?

bookjacket said...

Kevin Spacey wasn't in The Client, just A Time To Kill, so Brad Renfro doesnt fit.

ginger falls said...

Brad Renfro-love him!John Grisham author even though I so hope it isint.Although...it could also be Brett Easton Ellis as author.I met Joel S(director) & loved him so I hope it's not that movie & it's another one

Laura Jay said...

There was another kid in the Client whose last name was Speck? Never heard anything about him again. Lots of that movie was shot in New Orleans, some in Memphis. Nothing good ever happens in either of those places. Brad Renfro was from my current city, I'd love to know what happened to him. He's not forgotten around here.

Kendrick Schroder said...

I remember watching the shrinking woman one as a kid, and getting that sinking, stranger danger feeling.

Also, o/t but in real time, anyone watching That interview on the original not network news channel? A few minutes ago she brought up rumors of his being a thirsty fellow, and then suggested his breath was malodorous then and there. I've never seen this happen before on cable news. MSM getting more CDAN-like by the week.

Ivy said...

Not Stephen King. He's lived in Maine all his life. Still does.

Juliaph said...

one_eyed_bob;

cornell and chester bennington thought they knew what they were doing, also.

Predilecto said...

Tricia figured it out. A Time To Kill, Himmmm talked to Sandra Bullock, Matthew Mac. They discussed being on the set with Spacey and Schumacher, and also the rumors they've heard about Schumacher and Renfro.
Now from what I get from this blind, is Himmmm telling us that he is someone from the movie A Time to Kill?

Mag said...

It doesn't say the young actor is dead, just that something awful is said to have happened to him while filming (so there's no need to try and make Renfro work for this). Sadly, this can probably be said of any young actor who filmed with Schoemacher and/or Spacey, so take your pick. I think @Tricia13 got it.

Sand1 said...

The client
Susan Sarandon
Tommy Lee Jones
John Graham author
Brad renfro dead young actor
Don't know director
That poor kid.

ginger falls said...

& yes John Grisham did move away & out of the state of Mississippi....(Heartbroken now)I'll ask my dad friends from Oxford,MS on why the Grishams sudden move for you too:)

PapayaSF said...

Mag: It says "that dead young actor" in the last sentence.

Predilecto said...

Sand1, I don't think Susan Sarandon or Tommy Lee Jones were at the Oscars. I didn't even see them photographed at any pre or after parties.

Mag, it's Renfro. The blind talks about a dead young actor and exposing the truth for his memory. Renfro wasn't in A Time to Kill, but he was in Joel Schumacher's The Client. The blind is talking about how the trio discussed their involvement with the director on the set of ATTK, AND addressed the rumors they heard about Joel and Renfro.

It's a pretty easy blind.

Mag said...

@Predilecto - He doesn't specifically say he ACTED in it, so technically he may have worked on it in some other capacity (but spending enough time on set to get really close with the main actors). Or he was in it. Anyway, he was at the Oscars last night. The ceremony was so boring that I doubt anyone has it on DVR, but if someone does, I imagine they are going through every single face right now and cross-checking everyone with the cast and crew list for that movie. ;)

John Cantor said...

Hey, Enty bro, tell us, what was Mali Finns role in all of this? More than just casting director?

Google images of her creepy polaroids are a veritable who's who of well, your entire site.

ASolo

Mag said...

@Papaya - My bad, you're right. But it doesn't say the dead young actor was in that particular movie (or am I missing something again? it's very late here) on which Himmmm and the others worked. Therefore I Time to Kill fits perfectly.

Han Niam said...

I first thought Spacey in Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil because there were so many locals involved. But then I realized the other players didn’t make much sense after (maybe) John Cusack and came back here to read the comments.

Predilecto said...

@ Mag, yes you're right. Good catch. It didn't mention anything about being a part of the cast. But isn't it rumored Himmmm is an actor, and not RDJ? Or is he? I am still new to all this.

Predilecto said...

@ Mag- Renfro is only discussed by the trio as a rumor they've heard about Schumacher and Renfro. It doesn't mention that the actor was in ATTK. But I believe ATTK was after The Client, so the timeline about them hearing certain things fits.

SimplyMasonZero said...

What disgraced actor was in The Client? This sounds more likey Kevin Spacey in a Time to Kill

Predilecto said...

@ SimplyMasonZero - You have the correct movie, ATTK. But the only mention of the client was really about rumors the trio heard concerning Renfro and Schumacher. Disgraced actor is Spacey from ATTK.

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IDoTheRobot said...

Exactly.

totaji said...

So that makes Himmmm... Samuel Jackson.
And now you know, the rest of the story.
Good Day

Geeljire said...

Nah they good

ginger falls said...

@Mag it reads to pay tribute to that dead young actor

Mag said...

@Predilecto - Apparently there are at least 4 different Himmmms, maybe more. RDJ has been long rumoured but never confirmed. Recenty, one fo the long blinds suggested that one of Himmmms may be a certain director who was nominated last night. There are more and more clues in the blinds as to the identity of the authors, but you never know if it's the truth or misdirection ;) Personally, I wouldn't be surprised is at least one of Himmmms were a woman ;)

joshg g said...

Laconte Mcgrew for the dead actor

Alexandria said...

Can't be Samuel L Jackson, never seen "muthafucka" in his blinds haha.

Predilecto said...

When is all the big stuff supposed be revealed in the limelight? I am still waiting for this Don Henley thing to be exposed. Himmmm told us to watch for it this Spring.

Juliaph said...

Last update Himmm said in May for the Henley stuff.

Mag said...

@totaji - Was SLJ at the Oscars last night, though? I know, it would be cool to have him as Himmmmm. If today's BI #15 is by the same Himmmm, I'd say it's unlikely he is a person of colour. I can't imagine some sorry-ass shmuck having the guts to make racist comments in front of SLJ ;)

shytlerj said...

Keifer Sutherland for hmmm.

Jojo said...

Movie Apt Pupil
Directed by Bryan Singer
Produced by Bryan Singer
Author. Stephen King
Starring Brad Renfro

From WIKI
During the $14 million production, a lawsuit was filed by several extras, including some underage who alleged that they were told to strip naked during a shower scene, but the lawsuit was determined to be without merit.

Kitty Brandtner said...

Could this himmmmm writer be Ashley Judd?

Predilecto said...

If you're going with an actor, they would've had to be there at the Oscars. Was Keifer there?

plot said...

Stephen King never moved away from Maine. He's lived there his whole life.

Grisham moved to Charlottesville VA, where he pretends to be the most gifted writer to ever grace the town. He's loud. He drinks. He makes an ass of himself in restaurants (though not quite as much as Sam Shepard did.)

Mag said...

@Kitty, not likely if you look at the other Oscar blinds today (e.g. #35)

AKA said...

John Frusciante gave him the bad heroin and he died at a club partially owned by Johnny Depp.

xyzxyz33 said...

There have always been rumblings about John Grisham.
Terrible horrible things.

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shytlerj said...

Keifer's father was there. I suspect he would go too for support.

More Cowbell said...

@Predilecto, Kiefer's dad was there, so I'm sure Kiefer got an invite. And he was in ATTK. And he is around the same age and Sandra and Matthew, so it would make sense that they were friends. Complete speculation on my part.

I really hope the men who preyed on young actors eventually are held accountable, even if they have passed away.

ginger falls said...

I really hope it is Apt Pupil & not the Client

ginger falls said...

But did Steven King suddenly move to a different state?

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shytlerj said...

Could be Lost Boys, Corey Haim-dead actor and Charlie Sheen for disgraced actor. Almost 20 yrs ago he was investigated by child protection when he was divorcing Denise Richards.

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Snootches said...

I totally got the Kiefer vibe for one of the Himmmm's as well.
I hope, someday, there will be justice for Brad Renfro. Found this article that peels back the layers on his difficult life. Some interesting quotes from Bryan Singer....
http://archive.knoxnews.com/entertainment/pop-culture/brad-renfro-some-celebrities-fall-into-cycle-of-destruction-ep-412087454-359989861.html

Speech_teacher said...

Every semester when I teach persuasion, I show my students Matthew mcs closing statement in ATTK. Masterful persuasion using storytelling. Anyway, this movie haunts me. There's something about it that touches my soul. The heartless cruelty to an innocent child. I think that's what brings me here. Hoping for confirmation that these monsters will meet an appropriate fate.

More Cowbell said...

Lost Boys doesn't work because it came out in 1987, not the 90's.

Snootches said...

Bingo! +100000000

Boldblonde said...

I was hoping it wouldn’t be Stephen King. He’s my favorite author. @Ivy luckily he’s a faithful east coaster.

Bill Philly said...

Yup. And Grisham moved to Charlottesville, VA from Mississippi. That cast is like a who's who of great actors.

shytlerj said...

True but Schumacher is the common denominator. Grisham covered things up later in the 90s. Spacey is already outed as a pedo-Sheen has not been officially exposed although everyone has connected the dots. They probably all partied together.

Guest777 said...

Except for when he's living in central Florida on a barrier island

Tricia13 said...

We all hope for the same..:
Matthew is one of the good guys -And the film does haunt spaces if the mind,I agree

AppleThief4Elliot said...

Not sure about the dead actor, but The Outsiders, or Rumblefish directed by Coppola sprang to my mind. Each based on a book by S.E. Hinton, native of Tulsa area.

KittensRUs said...

Stop trying to guess who Himmmmm is and no way is it Ashley, Ashley is way too self-centered to spend 5 minutes on anything that doesn't promote Ashley. Speaking of, damn she looked rough last night. Standing next to Mira Sorvino did her no favors. There's only so much bad road that makeup can cover.

AtlantaD said...

That comment about "too harsh of a sentence" tends to make me angry. None of them think about the lifetime sentence that they impose on those victims of abuse who have to live with it daily.
I didn't realize that Grisham held that point of view.
LOL Stephen King will never leave Maine, and I'm not sure I blame him!

shytlerj said...

S.E. Hinton is a woman.

cheesegrater15 said...

What Don Henley stuff?

Sara, Making It Work said...

I think a lot of us here have been waiting on a good Renfro blind. I really, really, hope they find some justice. I don't know why, but his death hit me harder than most other young Hollywood deaths.
And now I wonder what happened on the ATTK set! Crazy! I had heard that Grisham stuff, but I never put it together with Shumacher. Dang.

Amy said...

This is beyond disturbing. For the people who’re complicit or cover up horrific crimes, especially involving children/minors, how do they ever sleep at night? My brain just can not accept how someone could do that. I feel sick inside.

I appreciate that the 3 are dedicated to trying to help in memory of the poor dead boy. Heartbreaking and soul crushing. I need to reread the Himmmm dance story again....

Pig Tracks said...

"A list author": Dominick Dunne?

Sara, Making It Work said...

Not suspicious at all...
LaConte McGrew
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0570041/

Juliaph said...

cheesegrater:

Re: Don Henley...Knock your socks off:

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-item-1-he-made-millions-from.html

Lucy_Eyelesbarrow__ said...

Brad R really must have experienced some dangers. Being discovered by Schumacher at age 10 for the Grisham story, playing a sexually abused child in Sleepers, working with Singer and McKellen on Apt Pupil, and dealing with Larry Clark on Bully had to be enough to mess with someone's head. I wonder how Nick Stahl is doing. These poor kids.

Unknown said...

Totally agree!! Love MM (and RDJ) ... this site just makes me love them more!
And kudos to all who are trying to bring the bad guys down

GoogleSleuth said...

Please don’t guess. Everyone deserves anonymity around here. They’re the good guys; let’s not chase them away again.

Blind Obsessed said...

Researching who Brad R was I ran across some ironic info, James Franco seems to be obsessed with Brad R ...
http://www.around-around.com/brad-renfro/
Crazy last line....”But because you were someone that was picked up, Used, fed with drugs, forgotten, and killed.”

Sara, Making It Work said...

+1 @Lucy. Everything you said.
Plus I'm certain some shit went down on the set of Tom & Huck with JTT. Brad is dead, plus another young actor (Blake Heron, addict with unknown cause of death), plus an adult actor (Charles Rocket, who committed suicide). Seems an awful lot of tragedy for one film. Someone on another board remembers seeing very pedo-y pics of Brad & JTT from their promo trip to Japan, taken at a Japanese bathhouse. This was 20+ years ago and the pics have long been scrubbed from the internet.

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Hayley said...

I really hope it's Kiefer as himmmm. He seems so down-to-earth and I really respect him

Owlette said...
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Ouiser B. said...

Grisham also bought a several plots of land in Chapel Hill NC over the past few years.

http://www.wral.com/the-appeal-author-grisham-seeks-approval-to-remove-chapel-hill-cottages/17007227/

LovelyLady78 said...

This blind is interesting. The director is definitely Joel Schumacher & the author is most likely John Grisham (who's a lawyer). However, the investigation may have not been about Schumacher/Spacey. It could've been about Schumacher & Charlie Sheen (maybe). Schumacher directed A Time To Kill AND Lost Boys. The dead young actor could be Brad Renfro (who was in The Client) or Corey Haim (who was in Lost Boys). Its just that investigators came to to the set of ATTK to ask about Schumacher. But the actors of ATTK pretty much all lived in Los Angeles at the time (they were just filming in Mississippi). You have to read the blinds CAREFULLY.

Jennacheryl said...

I am thinking the Usual suspects 1995, directed by ... Bryan Singer staring Kevin Spacey written by Christopher McQuerry (sp?)

paulfooff said...

Movie: A Time to Kill
Actress: Sandra Bullock
Other Actor: Matthew Mc
Kiefer Sutherland as Himmm (used to be roomies w/RDJ)
Disgraced Actor: Kevin Spacey
Director: Joel Schumacher
A-/B+ Kid Actor: Brad Renfro (From his time on The Client--note it says the actress heard about that, not that it was on the same movie.)
Writer: John Grisham
Kid Actors from movie: LaConte McGrew and Darrin Mitchell

Diogenes said...

Oliver Platt

Greta Garbo said...

Sara, Making It Work said...
"Not suspicious at all...
LaConte McGrew
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0570041/"

Another case for being pissed IMDb shut down their message boards. There might have been comments there about his death. As it is, there is little about him online since he only had the one film credit for ATTK.

LovelyLady78 said...

Just remember folks.... when Spacey went down, Corey Feldman didn't name him as one of the pedos he knows about because that would've been the perfect time to do so. However he named Charlie Sheen. And its been rumored that Sheen is about to be taken down by the FBI.

Sweetwater said...

I passed by Schumacher on a street in London many years ago, sitting with a young man who looked a great deal like Christian Bale.

I'll never forget the way he was looking at him, it had an energy signature, dark, predatory.

I've crossed many paths, people of note in my journey, never forgot that look.

Lisa said...

+1

Juliaph said...


In the J.P.Getty blind of past months, there was an off-hand reference made to the changing "tastes" of perverted rich men from young girls to young boys. I inferred that it was changing circa 1980's perhaps...

Anyone have any ideas why???

JL said...

He's never moved. Lived his whole life in Maine.

Ligeia said...

Movie: A Time to Kill
Actress: Sandra Bullock
Other Actor: Kiefer
Himmm: Oliver Platt
Disgraced Actor: Kevin Spacey
Director: Joel Schumacher
A-/B+ Kid Actor: Renfro
Writer: John Grisham

as to the changing "tastes" maybe its easier to keep young men quiet since it's more taboo they may be less reluctant to tell anyone? Just my guess. People like this who do this to children, its not really about the sexual orientation , its more about the control and the victimizing of something innocent. Pretty damn sick :( I hope all these a holes get exsposed

Court b said...

Donald was

SimplyMasonZero said...

The things thats confusing about this blind is that it fuses 2 movies, The Client and A Time to Kill.

Both movies were made by John Grisham and Joel Schumacher
A Time to Kill had Keven Spacey. Pretty much fits the disgraced A Lister
But, The Client doesn't have anyone disgraced, but had a child actor who died, Brad Renfro.

Was there a young male child actor who was in A Time To Kill, and who passed? The blind makes it sound like one movie in particular.

SimplyMasonZero said...

Also Re: Corey Haim. Haim was harm in 3 separate incidents

First when he was 11, from god knows who. Feldman talks about it, but did not give any details. Its really hard to figure out who it is. He wasn't even in Hollywood by that point. I don't know.

2nd time was by Charlie Sheen in the movie Lucas.

Now the 3rd incident(s) DID happen in the Lost Boys movie. By both Marty Weiss and Dominick Brasia. Now did Schumacher ever do anything to them, I doubt it. In the Two Coreys reality show Corey Haim called out Feldman for associating with Brasia, and then they did Lost Boys 2(and I think Haim tried to do 3 idk).

I'm bringing this timeline up for those thinking Schumacher and Sheen were working together. I guess Himmm could be bringing up Haim, but it sounds more like Brad Renfro. idk

frogger said...

Thank you, Zero. That's what confused me as well. This is the line from the BI that has given me the most trouble since it doesn't look like there were any kids in ATTK:
"It was about something the director and adult actor did while casting local boys back during the making of that one movie we were all (unfortunately) a part of back then."

bianca said...

Charlie Sheen wasn't in Lost Boys...

Mag said...

@KittensRUs - The way this BI is written, Himmmmm and Enty are actually inviting people to guess who Himmmm is as part of the fun. There is zero reasons to write "we" instead of "they" other than to provoke these speculations. There was zero reasons for Himmmm #2 to be so specific with clues in that long "crazy night" blind. When they don't want us guessing, they just don't write this way. It would just do some people here good to remember that even obvious clues do not guarantee that Himmmm actually IS who they want us to think he is.

cheesegrater15 said...

Holy shit, Julia. I never heard that story.

TheLastBoyScout said...

A few observations :-

I doubt that Kiefer is Himmm. He previously worked with Schumacher on both The Lost Boys and Flatliners.

According to Schumacher's Wikipedia page "Grisham personally requested that Schumacher return to direct A Time to Kill".

As with several of Schumacher's movies, The Client contains some disturbing occult imagery which appears to have been deliberately imbedded. This imagery may refer to alleged 33rd level Freemasonry or Luciferianism. Observe the scene where Brad Renfro's character falls ill while imprisoned in a jail cell overnight. Written in graffiti on the wall is the slogan "The Truth Shall Set You Free." Shortly after this, at exactly 1 hour and 33 minutes into the film, there is a very prominent shot of the Memphis Pyramid, with it's "all-seeing eye" blinking atop. Those familiar with such imagery may understand the significance. Was Brad Renfro ritually abused?

The pyramid symbol also makes it's way into The Lost Boys, as detailed here :-

https://jaysanalysis.com/2015/03/08/lost-boys-1987-revelation-of-satanic-ritual-abuse/

Sal T said...

Feldman strenuously denies any wrongdoing by Schumacher or Spielberg, he’ll block people on twitter for suggesting it. I feel like Feldman probably accepted hush money from these directors to not only keep quiet about their proclivities but also to run distraction for them. There was a blind a couple of months back that pretty much said exactly that (although the directors weren’t named)
I’ll see if I can find it and add the link.

FeistyPanda said...

If you go to Henley's wiki and see the time he was involved with a prostitute, it turns out there were 2, they were way underage, he provided heavy drugs/alcohol and abused them, and raped them. Photographs were taken and the girl that ran kept at least one photo from the night. The other girl died from a "mysterious od". The first girl is now married to a California Republican politician and she plans to share her story, and the photo(s) soon. Allegedly.

Sal T said...

This is the blind I was referring to http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/todays-blind-items-real-list.html It’s an interesting read. I’m not sure if Schumacher or Spielberg fit for the directors mentioned but Feldman is so cagey about them that I believe they can be added to the real list.

Sal T said...

If RDJ really is a Himmmm then I can’t wait for his bodily fluids story! It’ll be epic! Do we know why the collective call themselves Himmmm? Could they all be connected by an M initial? Whoever they are the Himmmm’s stories are the highlight of CDAN for me, the last dance was beautiful.

PG Tips said...

As much as I am curious about himmmm, it should never get out.
Stay safe, whoever you are and thanks for the awesome blinds.

Lucy_Eyelesbarrow__ said...

@Sara wow-exactly! I was trying to find something on Laconte when you posted last night, but he's been scrubbed too. I had no idea about the bath house thing in Asia. This seems to indicate that the boys were abused during a time to kill while they were casting for the client. It makes the downward spiral of so many young kids in hwood understandable.
The MSM is totally complicit. When I read about the beginnings of hwood, the industry is so interconnected with government and politics- getting information to the public-think news reels before the advent of TV. They paint the heroes and the villains and the public draws the conclusion they want. And media moguls such as Hearst and Pulitzer-then getting involved with Hwood via zukor, goldwyn, loew, mayer, lasky) and early movie production companies by threatening regulations and censorship-this was a precursor to the monopoly that politicians, print and visual media, and hwood and their big money lawyered-up machine hold today.

The internet is the only thing which has cracked the sparkling veneer and they want to wash that too through monopolizing images (getty, bloomberg) and regulating the internet and crippling outlets and forums. Once rogue outlets like TMZ and Perez are now bought and paid for. The child victims never had a chance at receiving public support or any sort of justice. Going for a blackmail payday is probably the only recourse they have had. So much manipulation corruption and murder. Its a very dirty game.

BTW please lets not unmask Enty or the Himmmms. I'd like them to continue to operate and not be forced underground.

Sal T said...

The mystery of the Himmmms is all part of the fun, it wouldn’t be the same if we knew for definite. I greatly appreciate their contributions and hope they will always continue. It’s such a relief to know there are still some good, kind hearted souls left in Hollywood. Thank you Himmmms, you restore my faith in human nature.

Jewal said...

I am a HUGE Stephen King fan, so I can't believe he would have ANYTHING WHATSOVER to do with this...

Fact is though, he does have a home in Florida where he spends a good deal of time.

Juliaph said...

Cheesegrater15,

Yeah, kinda puts these "Rock gods" where they belong.... in the dirt. There are a couple of blinds that I am waiting on for reveal. This is definitely one of them.

Just FYI, if you ever see someone reference something and you don't know what they are talking about, google this website and then semi-colon what you are looking for. For example:

crazydaysandnight.net:Don Henley

It will usually pull something up.

Juliaph said...

Hear, Hear! Silent H

Himmm, when are we going to hear about Brittany???

Brayson87 said...

The "permanent A list mostly movie actress" is interesting. It would be Sandra Bullock for ATTK or Susan Sarandon for The Client. I'm leaning towards Bullock.
It does seem odd to give warning that they will try to investigate in a few months. I'm sure the actress and the actor would not appreciate that being put out there.

Brayson87 said...

As for guessing the identities of the Himmmms, don't worry. Real or fake, the bad guys know who they are by now, you're not endangering them.
They've certainly seem to be ambivalent about secrecy in their blinds. One just confessed to an entire ballroom. Another confessed to an actor, an actress, and the Oscars' writing staff. Plus having their identities generally known helps protect them from being suicided. The subterfuge is required for legal purposes so they can't be sued.

Unless it's all just bs :) Then whoever they are, they're pretending to be certain celebrities with colorful stories to better draw attention to underreported atrocities which do seem real.

Sara, Making It Work said...

I have a really good old Renfro article to share, but I'll put it in the next "your turn" so it's not buried at the bottom like this. 😉

Sandita said...

I don't think it's necessarily saying the deceased young actor was in the movie in question. The movie definitely sounds like A Time to Kill, with Spacey, which definitely involved casting local kids. And the reference to the long-standing relationship between the director (Schumacher) and the author (Grisham) is why they connect that set of stories to Renfro and want to look into it in his memory.

BuckSparkles said...

Himmmm refers to the adult actor once as (former A-/B+ list mostly movie actor) and then again as (disgraced former A list mostly movie actor). I'm new around here so I'm still trying to nail down the ranking system, but would either Charlie Sheen or Kevin Spacey be A-/B+? I figured they'd be higher.

BuckSparkles said...

I can't think of anyone else it could be though...

Mag said...

@BuckSparkles - These are two different people: 1) A listy disgraced actor and 2) A-/B+ young actor who died.

BuckSparkles said...

@Mag AHHHH yes... i see that now. thanks!

themomica said...

+1

FitzroyHipster said...

I thought Apt Pupil too, but the only major female actress in it is Ann Dowd...I don’t think you could class her as A list. Stephen King doesn’t fit due to the author in the blind’s sudden move.


Poor Brad Renfro tho. Jesus.

Sign Name Below said...

@plot
They decided to invade beautiful Chapel Hill, buy a home near the park and buy up the land btwn them an the park, destroying the historical cabins along the way.

So there's that

plot said...

@Sign Name Below

Someone posted an article about that. WTH Chapel Hill! It protects the lands of local farmers for "urban" food supply but lets John Fucking Grisham destroy the ambience of it's parks?

Really, WTF????

Grisham is a turd. More than a few stories exist from Charlottesville.

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BMBT said...

Yeah, Ashley Judd is a real POS mostly staying out of the limelight while helping disadvantaged children half way around the world. JFC, some of you people just love to tear down others just to feel better about yourselves.

plot said...

BMBT, I'd be happy to support Ashley and see her act again. The issue is that Ashley has a really bad habit of tooting her own horn with false accolades. She wants a respect she has not earned and makes very defensive statements to indicate how smart she is.

That is difficult to like. If she is participating in good works, that is fantastic. Hopefully she gets a lot out of it, more than enough to ignore anyone who might insult her.

ME_ said...

I think people who were in A Time to Kill were being interviewed about Grisham, Schumacher, and Spacey in regards to their process casting for that movie...and these folks then wondering about Renfro during The Client came to mind for them because of what they were being asked about kids on their movie. Confusing matters is Renfro having been in Apt Pupil, which was Bryan Singer and Ian McKellan. Poor kid couldn't find a safe space.

Nat CDV said...

This has just put a bad feeling to my favourite movie

Anonymous said...

"It was about something the director and adult actor did while casting local boys back during the making of that one movie we were all (unfortunately) a part of back then"

The investigation was related to something the Director and adult actor (disgraced former A list movie actor) did whilst casting LOCAL boys for the movie they were all part of back then.

Actress may have seen something she wasn't supposed to regarding the actor? Did she see something involving actor and minor LaConte?

"We want to do this, not for a movie or television show, but for the memory of that dead young actor."

LaConte McGrew - Born: Port Gibson, Mississippi on August 8th 1982 - Died: Jackson, Mississippi on August 30th 2003.

I think they're referring to LaConte. "Young actor" he had just turned 21 when he died in a car crash.

Jayne said...

Donald and Kiefer were in A Time to Kill.

D pc said...

Let's not forget brad renfro later made a film with director Brian Singer when he was about 15, 16 (Singer's "sweetspot" from what I hear)...and according to IMDB most of Renfro's work thereafter went straight to video. Explains a lot. All the usual suspects were in attendance and passing around the young talent.

Skibunny said...

Never thought of himmmm for one. Have been a Kiefer fan, and Donald, forever.

beebopcowboy said...

@padlock

I think you got it all

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Zeroh Tollrants said...

Evidently he has had zero problems leaving Maine, at least for a portion of the year.
King spends part of every year living at his secluded home/3 acre property, on the barrier island of Casey Key, on the tip of Florida, and has done so going on 18 yrs now.
He's also a huge human asshole IRL.

Zeroh Tollrants said...

It's been long discussed that Renfro was abused, so this makes perfect sense.
Grisham is also known as a jerk, so I can buy this.

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