Friday, March 02, 2018

Your Turn

Best Picture. Who should/will win? How many have you seen?

Call Me by Your Name – Peter Spears, Luca Guadagnino, Emilie Georges, and Marco Morabito
Darkest Hour – Tim Bevan, Eric Fellner, Lisa Bruce, Anthony McCarten, and Douglas Urbanski
Dunkirk – Emma Thomas and Christopher Nolan
Get Out – Sean McKittrick, Jason Blum, Edward H. Hamm Jr., and Jordan Peele
Lady Bird – Scott Rudin, Eli Bush, and Evelyn O'Neill
Phantom Thread – JoAnne Sellar, Paul Thomas Anderson, Megan Ellison and Daniel Lupi
The Post – Amy Pascal, Steven Spielberg, and Kristie Macosko Krieger
The Shape of Water – Guillermo del Toro and J. Miles Dale
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri – Graham Broadbent, Pete Czernin, and Martin McDonagh

41 comments:

Former CNN Anchor Candy Crowley said...

My favorite allergy song is Blowin' in the Wind by Peter Pollen Mary.

sandybrook said...

Give it to Del Toro and let Faye and Warren announce it wrong again.

Geeljire said...

Whatever the Euro pedo rape normalization film is, it'll sweep, it'll be the Brokeback of our epoch, it will be a beautiful testament of love against the literal Nazi Fuhrer Trump, it'll...

SkittleKitty said...

I think Three Billboards will get it; I think it's deserving, of the films I've seen.
The two I haven't seen are Phantom Thread and Call Me By Your Name. Neither was here long enough for us to get to them.

Moose said...

Three Billboards will, Get Out should.

Saw them all but "Call Me...". Not into minors being seduced.

Kendrick Schroder said...

Get. Out.

Brayson87 said...

Obviously Phantom Thread, but Get Out would be a cool upset.

Beth said...

Not Three Billboards...

It is insanely overrated.

Samantha Willow said...

Saw Get Out and Shape of Water so can't really weigh in on which should win. I enjoyed both of them.

cc423 said...

My 2 cents: 3 Billboards was a great character study populated with some fine acting. I think it was better than Shape of Water as far as acting and directing and should win.

Call Me By Your Name skeeved me out because in the book, the characters who fall in love are 17 and 22... a normal age difference, but casting Armie Hammer as a 22-year old is beyond a stretch and gave a predatory vibe to the relationship. But that's just me.

Dunkirk tried real hard and Lady Bird was beyond terrific. The others... I have yet to see.

BlissBoo said...

I've seen them all and I hope that Phantom Thread wins it. Although it will probably be Darkest Hour or The Shape of Water.

Do Tell said...

Three Billboards. Though I still need to see Lady Bird.

joshg g said...

Saw Get Out, Darkest hour, 3 bill. Liked Get Out the best. But my fav from last year was Thor:Ragnorok, funny, super hot Cate Blanchett, and great use of the Immigrant Sing.

Do Tell said...

Every time I walk by the Phantom Thread poster that's outside my local theater, I keep thinking that's Billy Bob Thornton on the poster and I have to remind myself he ain't in it.

Count Jerkula said...

The blue room with codey lane

Mag said...

I've seen all of them, liked most, though not all of them equally. Three Billboards should win and I hope it will. Call Me by Your Name was great, but it doesn't stand a chance, judging by this awards season and the fact that Luca Guadagnino isn't nominated for directing. BTW, age of consent in France is 15, so technically this wasn't a minor, plus some of you seem to badly misunderstand what pedophilia is. Just saying ;) I also loved Dunkirk (but it's too unusual to win) and Phantom Thread (which I wouldn't hate to see win).

I won't be surprised if Get Out wins for political reasons, though.

Mag said...

PS: And age od consent in Italy is 14, so technically... etc. ;)

Dena said...

I've seen 6 of them, and Call Me By Your Name was my favorite, but I would like to see Phantom Thread win. Lady Bird and Get Out were great but don't really seem like Oscar material. The Shape of Water looked cool and had fine acting but the story was a little meh. Three Billboards was grossly overrated.

I think The Shape of Water will win.

Moose said...

I don't think we're talking about explicit pedophilia, Mag. What I find troubling is a man who clearly looks like he is in his 30s (Hammer) seducing a kid who looks like he is 17 (which is the character's age).

If that doesn't give you pause, that is your choice. Me, I find the visual quite disturbing. And that is my choice.

Christina said...

@Moose, to that end -- I recently watched Manhattan again (after not seeing it for 15 years) and was creeped out by it in a way I wasn't before, because the Woody Allen character is far too old the Mariel Hemingway character. In that case, it's a man in his 40s lusting after a 17 year old girl.

Mag said...

@Moose - The name of what distrubs you is ephebophilia. Pedophilia is preference for prepubescent children, not a general name for every statutory rape.

Also, the visual age difference between them is smaller than in many on-screen pairings between an older actor and a much younger actress, including some looking like they might be teens. Maybe the reason why it doesn't give me that much of a pause is because I've seen this in hundreds of movies about heterosexual couples. But that's just me.

Moose said...

thanks, Christina - yea, that's the kind of point I'm making here. I'm not saying that "Call Me..." is a pedophiliac's dream movie. I'm just saying that I, personally, don't care for movies that involve a sexual pursuit of a teenager by a man in his 30s (let alone older, like Allen). And I haven't seen Manhattan since its release in 1979 (when I was 20), but I'm sure it would have the same effect you describe (not that I have any plans to see it again).

Normal. Yes indeed. said...

It’s blowing me. It’s blowing you.

Dena said...

As a high-schooler in the 80's, I worked in a mall where some guys in their 20's also worked (remember Radio Shack?) and they often dated/slept with teen girls. It wasn't that scandalous back then, the parents knew (not about the sex part) and no one batted an eye. That doesn't mean it was okay and probably should have at least raised some questions, but times do change. I think if Call Me By Your Name had been set in present-day it would not have been received well at all.

Alexandria said...

Guillermo Del Toro.

Spider Rico said...

Seen them all - they're all weak compared to films of the past especially 70's cinema. Three Billboards the biggest joke. Shape okay - very creative but meh. I Tonya okay - Janney meh - cartoon performance. Get Out - Pleasee Get Out with that. Dunkirk excellent - slightly convoluted but well done. Name weak. Post - hohum. Lady Bird -meh. My vote is for Darkest Hour, or the non nominated Florida Project. We've lost our minds with this type cinema - it's pathetic. Chayefsky - Kazan - Lumet - Coppola where have you gone...I'm done...

orangesoda said...

Haven't seen The Post but out of the rest, Get Out is the weakest and Call Me by Your name is just gross. Shape of Water should get it.

orangesoda said...

Also, pedo or endo or whatever. Still sick. And there are countries that have no legal age of consent - still doesn't make diddling kiddos okay. Promoting a sexual relationship of a 17 year old CHILD with a grown man is sick, no matter how you choose to look at it.

Shawn McGuire said...

It’ll diddle yer skittle if you just let it...

DDonna Tarttty said...

I haven't seen "Phantom Thread," but otherwise none of these movies are deserving. A few of them earned short-list consideration, but none would've ever stood a chance in years past. I probably enjoyed "Three Billboards" the most, particularly for the performances, but it's hardly spectacular. Still, I hope it wins because "Shape of Water" was an interesting genre-busting curiosity, but Best Picture? That would be embarrassing, I think.

"Dunkirk" was the most over-rated movie of the year. "Get Out" was terrific entertainment, but really just a "woke" "Twilight Zone" episode for SJWs. "Call Me By Your Name," is shameful and I wish more people had the guts to say it. "Lady Bird" was good but felt too soap opera-y, slightly over-rated. Take out Gary Oldman and "Darkest Hour" collapses. "The Post" just sucked.

A terrible year for movies, just like 2016. The creative talent in Hollywood is scraping bottom.

tetsujin said...

I have yet to see CMBYN, and will watch this weekend. DUNKIRK is the best technical achievement but was rather dry. GET OUT has the most to say about our world and has one great performance and an inventive script. PHANTOM will probably win, however.

If you think this is a weak crop of films you should probably stick to sitcoms and superhero movies. POST is right out of the 70s tradition of political thrillers.

Dannette said...

Phantom Thread was one of those movies that still gnaws at you a couple weeks later. Lesley Manville was stunning.

texasrose said...

Get Out was so overhyped. I guess suspenseful but think about it- a bunch of rich racists want to come back in a black body??? Stupid. Would never happen.

Land Manatee said...

Mi paisano Guillermo Del Toro - Shape of Water 👏🏻

sc said...

I agree with Spider Rico and Ddonna Tarttty.

(Would be curious to know your thoughts on 'Phantom Thread,' Ddonna, if you get around to watching).

tetsujin said...

texasrose: "Rich racists" already did this, was called the transatlantic slave trade . . . it's a metaphor . . .

Mag said...

I actually wonder if you hate CMBYN because it shows 1) sex with a 17 yrs old child, or 2) sex between 17 yrs old child and and adult, or maybe 3) because it's homosexual sex with a 17 yrs old. Because, you know, in that very same movie the same child has sex with a girl looking the same age, whom he instantly dumps afterwards, but I haven't seen a single person complain about it yet. Also, in Lady Bird the same actor, looking the same 17 and playing a 17 yrs old child, has sex with a 17 yrs old girl child (who looks slightly older, though), whom he treats in a rather shitty way. No complaints here either.
Oh, and the interspecies sex in Shape of Water seems ok, too. ;)

I do agree that Armie Hammer looks too old for this role (student and all), but would it really change anything if they had cast someone actually looking 22? It would still be a 17 yrs old and an adult, just a younger looking one.

Bend3r said...

I've watched:

Dunkirk: Boring. No character development. Nolan tries to create tension (with the stretcher, the shots at the ship, the sinking spitfire) but since all characters are bidimensional there is no real tension because you don't give a fuck. Give Nolan a few technical Oscars and he should be happy, he is the most overrated director of this generation.

Get Out: Widely overrated. The premise of the Black-Is-Cool racism wears down quickly and after 20 minutes it's repetitive and annoying. There is talent in the director, but the screenplay tries too hard to be smart and ends up being dumb.

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri: The best of the three. Good albeit flawed movie. Very enjoyable, but the flashback of the fight between the mother and the daughter is superfluous and ridiculous. The scene with the guy who threats the mother in her store makes no sense after the DNA test and the rest of evidence. With Baby Driver and Loveless (nominated for best foreign language film) my Top 3 of the year.

texasrose said...

tetsujin - that makes no sense.

mercyprosperity said...

I support my local community theater.

I ~Do Not~ support the dangerous, exploitative film industry.

I also wouldn't order shark fin soup, knowing that thousands of tons of sharks are slaughtered yearly, thrown on deck to have their fins chopped off.
This beautiful apex predator is being eliminated from the planet.

If you know something is wrong, yet continue to support it.... I don't get that.

tetsujin said...

texasrose: Rather than being snarky, I'll offer that slavery was about rich White people using the bodies of the slaves for their own enrichment or amusement, which is exactly what happens in GET OUT, which I will add won best director and best feature at the Spirit Awards.

It is sure to win something tonight then, probably best screenplay, the Oscar's consolation prize for best picture.

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