Pregnant Man's Wife Is A Violent Alcoholic
You just have to love juicy divorces. Thomas Beatie filed divorce papers and in the papers accuses his soon to be ex-wife of being a violent alcoholic who would attack him at night and once punched Thomas right in the groin in front of the kids. Yeah, it's never fun to see mommy and daddy fight or to see daddy to go down in a heap of pain on the living room floor because he got punched in the junk. Apparently one day mom decided she was going to drive the kids to daycare while drunk before Thomas saved the day. Driving them to daycare leads one to think the woman was drunk in the morning. When you are drunk by 9am, then you are going to have a very long day and you have a problem. So far though we have only heard Thomas' side of the marriage. Soon we will hear the other side and I bet there is some crazy good stuff coming out about Thomas too.
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I love a good dramatic divorce story, but not when there are kids involved :(
Um, Daddy doesn't have junk, does he?
Daddy has junk now!
Thomas is a black belt champion in some martial art. He could kick her ass so I am glad he didn't hit her back---or has he????
He does now @AKM
Whatever Thomas might have going on down there, it doesn't involve actual testicles that hurt when punched.
He IS post-op? Are you certain?
@AKM, yes.
Yeah, but did he have it when she punched him there? I thought he completed the transition very recently. Anyone know for sure?
He had a addadicktome
I don't care how many operations Beatie has had - he is NOT a man!
He had the operation after they split up. In an interview, he said that she's never SEEN his junk, so who knows what equipment she punched.
The info on their "separation" was released via the crapfest "Doctors" that will be shown soon on tv. Supposedly she has not seen the newest part of his anatomy...
The wife has some guns on her, though. Bet she's strong!
I could write a book and a half on my opinion of gender reassignment. And I'm sure it would not be a popular opinion.
In short, a DNA test would still come out as female.
I don't care how you walk, talk, dress or who you sleep with. It's all good! If you have an innie, or an outie, that's just plumbing.
But born with testes=male, born with ovaries=female.
Watch out, This is my life and Carol, I've tried to explain the medical impossibility of changing your sex several times here, and have been attacked as a sexist and a homophobe and all kinds of things because of it (even though I don't give a rat's ass who he sleeps with or what equipment he uses to do so). People don't seem to (want to) understand that there is a huge difference between "gender" and "sex."
Frankly, I'm still trying to figure out how Thomas was able to get himself legally recognized as a man. Apparently to the government, appearance is everything, not biology.
The wife's arms look like she could inflict some serious beatings! I don't know anything about these two. Until this post I'd never heard of either of them. I take it from the other comments, that the husband (Thomas Beatie) was previously a woman and has had gender-reassignment surgery? Was his wife once a man? Those arms look like man arms. Who had the kids or are they adopted? In any case, I feel for the kids. It sounds like they've got two screwed up parents with addiction and anger issues which does not make for good parenting.
RJ, they were, technically, a lesbian couple. "Thomas" lived as a man and had a legal name change and male I.D. but was completely biologically female. They each had one child, and I believe the wife brought one child into the marriage. That's why "thomas" got press as 'the pregnant man' even though he wasn't actually a man, just male identified. Apparently he has now had full surgery and now has his male parts.
What Texshan and others have said is true, he is anatomically mostly a male, but yes, biologically, still female. But, we recognize gender identity in this country, so she is now a he. :)
?? Thomas gave birth to all 3, back to back. June '08, June '09, July '10. Beattie's eggs, donated sperm. As for the divorce, it'll probably be some nasty mud-slinging for awhile. There may well have been issues on both sides. Hopefully there are people who know the couple in person who can help sort things out, and set up the best arrangement for the kids.
I dont know about anyone else but this could get real juicy!
Which one is which, in the above photo? I thought the TG parent was the one on the right, but the one on the left has some whoppin' big arm muscles, so now I'm not so sure...
...which I now see we all noticed!
This is getting confusing. Him, her, her kids, their kids, who's your daddy? Does he or does he not have a weewee?
Personally, I think people can do what they feel they need to do, but really pisses me off are the nuts that go through the painful and expensive surgery and then realize OOOPS! I wanna go back.
Really gets my blood boiling reading some comments made on Thomas' gender.. Can't be bothered.
while the act is not funny at all, the phrase "punched in the junk" made me laugh...
However, This is my life, I should mention that being born with testes doesn't ALWAYS = male, and being born with ovaries doesn't ALWAYS = female. It's not your plumbing that determines your sex, it's your chromosomes.
Megan, thanks for the correction on the pregnancies. I got them mixed up with another couple entirely. Thomas had all 3 of their children, Nancy was unable to conceive and carry. Sorry for the mistake. (I really need to acknowledge my memory is not what it used to be).
Everyone can have their own opinion on his sex/gender and his identity. I personally know someone who is transgendered and I have known that he was since he was about 11. My friend didn't choose it. As far as Thomas Beatie... he's a man, for all intents and purposes in daily life. We don't all walk around discussing our chromosomes... why should he have to? On a snarky note, either his wife has jaundice or she needs a new self tanner.
@califblondy - Studies have shown that the wanting-to-go-back thing only happens about 10% of the time post-op, and even then, the surgery isn't usually "re-done."
So, yeah...I don't know how many people YOU know who have done this, but I can't think of too many myself. ???
ME personally? No, I can't say I know anyone.
I guess the 10% took their cause to daytime TV because I've seen several people interviewed (over the course of many years), like back when Jenny Jones had a talk show. I saw one man (or maybe it was a woman) hoping to find a wealthy donor to pay for the surgery.
My family member had this done. My aunt became my uncle and even though it was awkward for me "he" was very comfortable in his new body.
@Texshan
That is what I was getting at, although I abbreviated my opinion. (I'm not a fan of typing aything longer than a few sentences) :-)
It's in the dna.
I've actually always wonder if gender identity issues are a form of body dysmorphic disorder.
eg:person has their legs surgically removed because they don't they belong on their body.
And I am definitely not a homophobe, nor am I sexist.
Like I said, my opinion would not be popular. Though I hope we can all agree to disagree!
Oh, I get super-nervous when people start the "I am not a homophobe but everything having to do with same-sex activity or transgendered issues must be resolved by a return to the 11th century's view of what it means to be a real man." It always just sounds a little disingenuous. As does "I innocently posted knowing it would offend but am totally shocked that there is offense, because I never expected it, although I knew it would offend." That also seems a little off.
@Barton
If that's directed at my general direction, I just want to clear the air
First off, I didn't ports expecting to be shocked if I offended someone. I really don't care I'd I offended anyone. We're all adults having a (hopefully) adult conversation. What a boring world it would be if we couldn't maturely discuss sensitive issues. Though it seems like certain topics are taboo to have difference of opinion on.
I don't claim to understand transgender issues, I'm a surbaban housewife.
I don't think gender issues need to be resolved by ignoring them till they go away. I don't push the man/woman roles. If my son wants to play princess, fine with me. He wants to wear my makeup, sure, just let me do it so it doesn't get ruined(that crap Is expensive)
What I am talking about it xy/xx. Not gender identity, but DNA.
I realize, also, that this post makes me sound like a bitch. I'm really not, I'm just very abrupt when putting my thoughts "to paper", so I'm not trying to be snotty towards you.
Also, Thomas opened the door to opinion by putting himself in the public eye.
Barton Fink, who is saying that? No one, as far as I know, is saying that we need to "return to the 11th century." Please correct me if I'm wrong, but no one in the 11th century knew about chromosomes or DNA.
The facts are, Thomas Beattie is legally a man. He identifies as a man. He is not, however, biologically a man, and never will be. These facts are not in dispute.
Hah! Some of my typos were as bad as Enty's!
Damn autocorrect! Lol
Why the fuck are so many of you so damned invested in telling a person what sex they are? They aren't hurting anyone, but you are, by telling them that what they know from the bottom of their hearts is wrong. You disgust me.
To make myself even more clear, it's the "pregnant man" in talking about. He still had his female parts, stopped taking hormones, hadn't yet had surgery.
He was not a pregnant man.
I am not telling anyone what they are in their heart or in their head!
And with that said, I give up.
I was going for discussion, and possibly being able to gain some new understanding.
Whatever.
I just find it difficult to believe that as you march in Gay Pride events, you proclaim your total and complete love and support for LBG people and an intense desire for all people to be respected and treated equally, as long as they're gender-appropriate as you define it. I mean, that final clause must cause some friction, no? that's the part that seems a little off to me, I'm just saying. I'm sure you mean well, but I'm sure some people wonder what dog you have in this race. If I'm being harsh, it's not because I want to be. I just suspect that when you announce that you have previously solved the issue of gender for all time and no one listened, that's not going to be a point upon which lots of intellectual discussion can be based. For instance, anyone who spends time with transgendered people is going to just shake their heads in wonder. Gender is a spectrum, and everyone experiences and expresses it differently. You don't agree with that idea, and I have no stake in forcing you to accept it. I agree that we should all live in peace, let others believe and live and love as they see fit, and we ought to be kind. (Unless we're discussing Lohan's invite to the Fox table at the upcoming press corps dinner, where she will sit in the esteemed Trump Birther Throne.)
I'm almost embarrassed to be typing so much on this thread, but I forgot to address Texshan, and I must politely say: Watson and Crick did not invent gender. They discovered genetic influences on a person's physical sex, but not any gene that "rules" gender expression.
Mooshki: Thank you.
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