Saturday, July 20, 2019

Blind Items Revealed #6 - Old Hollywood - Mr. X

June 1, 2019

This Grammy Hall Of Famer who was one of the biggest radio stars ever also has a memorable last name. She was in love with a convict and as we are discovering now, a communist sympathizer which people in Hollywood knew about but tried to keep quiet because they loved working with her.

Fanny Brice

28 comments:

sandybrook said...

She married a con artist, is that the one you mentioned or was there another one?

E said...

More like a memorable first name

Oh my man I love him so
He'll never know

One of the best song endings for a movie ever!!

Samantha said...

Nicky Arnstein...Nicky Arnstein...

Babs.

Who else was Fanny in love with?

gauloise said...

I think the blind is saying Arnstein was a convict and commie, and we are only learning now he was a commie

Samantha said...

gauloise: thanks. That makes sense.

Flashy Vic said...

Isn't the party political thing old hat these days?

Isn't the political world divided into those political people who like to fuck kids and the three politically minded people on the planet that don't?

MissDavie said...

Flash Vic you said it! That's what it seems to be.
As for Fanny Brice, very interesting person and deserves much more of a tribute than Funny Girl.

GentleBreeze said...

Kinda sad because Fanny was a talent, but not a beauty. She glommed onto this con artist who defo took plenty of her dough.

Samantha said...

"Fanny was a talent, but not a beauty."

Question: Would you rather be Fanny Brice or a Ziegfeld "girl?"

(Anyone)

Bonus point: Would you rather be Fanny Brice or Evelyn Nesbit?

Sarton Bander said...

Good for the con artist.

She fell for a lot of con-artists being a commie.

Ari said...

Wow

Mary said...

Fanny Brice was a fascist, which is what all communists and socialists are. Look at them today, opposed to free speech, contemptuous of citizens’ civil rights their actions are right out of Trotsky, Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin’s et al... playbooks

Samantha said...

Er, how are her sociopolitical beliefs known? A lot of people were 'accused' but were not 'communists.'

GentleBreeze said...

Well, now - I'm not finding anything online about Fanny being a communist. Arnstein's name is not coming up either. Unless there's guilt by association. Play producers, writers were - not them.
and Billie Burke *could* be a Zeigfeld girl since she married the boss. Such a fine comedic actress and pretty, too. Although her later husband(s)wasted her money so she had to keep working. So I'll choose Zeigfeld girl!

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luna said...

yes!!!

Samantha said...

GentleBreeze: Even when people say "producers/writers were," they should keep in mind, imo, that a lot of well meaning humanists went to a 'meeting' because at that time, a lot of creatives believed a Utopia in which people shared what they had, and no one was exploited, was possible.

Communism did not = fascism in their minds in those days; in act quite the opposite.

There were also people who want to a 'meeting' just to network. Or because a friend brought them.

Then HUAC came along and ruined lives, ended careers, led to suicides...

Does Chaplin seem like a fascist? Accusations of 'dirty commie' ran him out of the USA.

"So I'll choose Zeigfeld girl!" Thanks for playing :) Billie Burke was gorgeous, talented and smart.

molly said...

Mary......fascists and communists are world's apart. Hitler stated he was socialist only to suck in the public. We should all know how that goes after Mr. Hope and Change, Obomba. He gave a great speech, while behind the scenes his administration was constantly bombing oil rich middle eastern countries.Communism is govt. owning everything. Fascism is corporations controlling the govt. Like US.

Samantha said...

Heaven on earth does not and likely cannot exist.

Anyone promises Utopia on earth? RUN.

James Howlett said...

The heart wants what it wants

Miss Teak said...

Ugh- I love Billie Burke. I I’m not taking any sides here but what most people don’t consider is the context of the 1930s. From the standpoint of 1932, there wasn’t a lot to recommend capitalism and people were searching for a way to replace what was a truly broken system. Communism, at the time, seemed very promising. It had brought changes and freedoms to many in Russia and our neighbor to the south. So it’s not at all surprising that a country filled with Hoovervilles that people were looking for a better way.

slipperyGuy said...

Samantha. By the 1930s the various holocausts of the USSR were well underway. They started with Lenin and exploded under Stalin. The humanist intellectuals and creatives should have known about this, and in fact many did. They continued to push Communism because they believed the violence was worth it for an eventual better world.
I don't think you can trust people like that with our popular culture. Blacklist them.

Samantha said...

Miss Teak - yes. Context. It was during the Great Depression, when workers were being fired, and/or were being exploited to the point of starvation, people were being driven off land their families had held for generations, and stockbrokers were diving off skyscrapers.

A Utopia in which everyone worked and shared equally must have sounded mighty appealing.

slipperyGuy no lectures please about what the dead "should've known" way back in the past century. They didn't know a thing about any of that.

Come on you are being provocative and concern-trolling. Who are you, the ghost of McCarthy.

A.Claire said...

So happy to be an anarchist.

Valorious said...

Can't we take all the best from the existing, and make up our own 'ism'?

Clark St. said...

A lot of actors, writers & directors went to communist or communist inspired meetings & groups because they were the only ones attacking Hitler & the Nazis in the early & mid-1930s.

Samantha said...

A lot of people got caught in the HUAC dragnet who did not believe in the 'communist' ideology at all. Hollywood has always revolved around networking and parties. The champagne type of parties, not the political kind of parties. I think most go which way the wind blows, politically speaking. Or let's say "went."

They are all about their careers.

Stanislavski was popular then too and maybe they thought acting was more respected in Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Stanislavski

HUAC knew most of the people it called were not 'communists' which was in their mind synonymous with 'dangerous seditionist' but they wanted to embed fear in the proceedings, and to get people to rat on each other.

orangesoda said...

Dunno who she is but if she was with a commie? Fuuuhuuuuuck that.

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