Sunday, November 12, 2017

Blind Item #1 - He Made Millions From Raping Young Girls - Himmmm

Because I was an idiot yesterday, I didn't scroll down and see the full length blind. I only posted the summary. Here is Himmmm in all of his glory.

Every Thanksgiving as families and friends gather together to enjoy a meal, while others get ready for shopping, and others help out with meals at homeless shelters and charities, some people recall another Thanksgiving from decades past.  A November that one rock legend spent drugging and raping young girls.

Set the DeLorean time machine back to November 21, 1980.

#1 was coming to the end of his legendary run with a group. They had made tons of money, and would go on to make more and more. But the fame, money, and adoration was not enough for this rocker. Fueled by drugs and unquenchable appetites, his disgusting lifestyle (and the victims left in his wake) was horrible in its day, and would land him in prison if he did it today.

#1 had developed many nasty habits and lifestyle choices that made Roman Polanski look normal.  But the Rocker was always protected.  His past girlfriend #4 was always there to support him, as was her then-boyfriend #5.  Both were always at the forefront of Feminist causes, and possibly the most powerful couple on the California or even national scene. It also helped to have the most powerful people in show business to protect you too. His manager #2 who had lawyers, media contacts, and investigators on speed-dial. Also #3 who, although they had a love-hate relationship that would eventually turn to all hate, was glad to protect his money machine.   Even when they would later sue each other for millions, they came together for political events. Thus, the Rocker never really cared about consequences.

That November, holed up in his California mansion a week before Thanksgiving, the Rocker made his usual call to his usual madam, #6 and he requested "the usual" for dinner. The usual for him meant young girls and he had done this many times both at home and on the road.  He made Jimmy Page look like a gentleman.  The Madam routinely searched for new talent at bus stops and runaway shelters.  She had just found a new 16 year-old girl who looked young and liked to party.  She was also very desperate and very scared. When the Madam made the offer to her for a night's work, it seemed safe enough with such a huge star.  The Madam promised no sex involved, that the Rocker just liked to hang out and smoke dope and drink. Still, the Runaway asked if she could bring a friend. And yes, the Madam sent two underage girls to the Rocker's palace that night. The "friend" accompanying the 16 year-old runaway was another homeless girl, who had just turned 15 years-old that week.  She had just run away from a violently abusive home, and was still a virgin. The Madam got to double bill the Rocker for that visit.

On arrival, the girls were fed cocaine to get them excited, and Quaaludes to keep them calm.  They smoked a lot of pot, and after a dip in the Jacuzzi with the rocker, they all three headed to the bedroom.  The entire time the Rocker kept asking the girls to do things to each other, which neither had done before.  They figured maybe if they did each other – he wouldn't do them. They were hesitant and scared, and the Rocker got more and more violent.  He kept taking Polaroid pictures of them all, doing everything, which embarrassed the girls. The 16 y.o. asked to leave.  The Rocker told them they couldn't because they'd be arrested and it was too late to call a cab.  He pushed more and more drugs on them both.

After the 15 year-old passed out, he began raping her.  Then he began raping the 16 year-old.  When the younger girl woke up, she was scared to death, and saw her friend was having convulsions.  The Rocker was ignoring her, yelling on the phone, talking to someone later revealed to be #2.  Then the Paramedics arrived.  They walked into a scene they described as "Sodom and Gomorrah" with drugs, vomit, and booze everywhere.  Both underage girls were totally naked, although the younger of the two began trying to dress.

The Paramedics did CPR on the girl as she was unresponsive, then she went back into seizures. The 15 year-old said it was like a nightmare, and she tried to sneak away out of the room.  The whole time, the Rocker was freaking out, talking to people on the phone, until guys in suits showed up.  They threatened the Paramedics to stay silent. The men in suits told the younger runaway they would "take care of her" and stay with them.  The older runaway was put in an ambulance, and the younger one begged Paramedics to take her too. When one of the Suits tried to interfere, a Paramedic shoved him and threatened to kick his ass.  Off to the hospital they went.  The rocker, his manager, and the other men in suits stayed behind.

What none of them knew at the time, was that the 15 year-old had managed to grab several of the Polaroids and stuff them into her clothes.  At the time, she was petrified of the cops or her parents finding out, and the proof of her activity was all there in those Polaroids.  So she grabbed them when the others were distracted, to destroy them later.

At the hospital, the older girl was given medication to save her. Uniformed cops arrived, and took statements from both girls.  Hours later, one of the men in suits also showed up, with a bus ticket and envelope of cash for the 15 year-old. They told her to leave town and not testify or talk to anyone, or else she'd be arrested – or worse.  She left town that day.  #2 and #3 wound up spending a lot of cash that Thanksgiving. To lawyers, to pay off cops, Paramedics, and even a judge.  Several reporters were paid thousands to kill the story.

Since so many people knew about it, the cops had little choice but to do something.  So they handed the case over to a Detective who was a friend of theirs, an elite golden boy in LAPD.  He was friends with the Madam too, and became head of the LAPD "Sexually Exploited Child Unit" in Vice.  Mostly his time was spent taking bribes from executives and covering up cases.

The Detective made sure the case got downgraded and the evidence was lost.  With the Judge's help, the entire nightmare for the Rocker wound up far different than that of Roman Polanski years before.  So it was then that the Rocker was convicted of "Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor", given a $2,500 fine, and put on probation. No mention of rape, soliciting, or abuse of the girls.  No word on what happened to the 22 GRAMS of cocaine, 5 oz. of marijuana or 160 Quaaludes found in the rocker's bedroom strewn all over the bed.  It was booked into evidence, but later became worthless as evidence.

The 16 year-old runaway got out of the hospital, and was found dead near the 101 freeway a year later.  Allegedly an overdose.  Friends of hers and workers at a local shelter said she'd cleaned up, gone straight, and was trying to turn her life around.  Her death was ruled an accidental overdose.  Many never believed it.

One news anchor who didn't believe it was the one who didn't get bribed.  She didn't like what was happening, and didn't like the corruption, or the rape and drugging of young girls.  So she went public, running her stories.  She got pushback from bosses, owners, and even fans of the Rocker.  She was hounded from her job several years later. Her attempt to uncover the truth in the case gave way to the Rocker feeling like HE was the victim.  Like HE was the one being maligned and unfairly punished. Yeah, like HE was the victim.

Since he split from the band, his new solo career was taking off.  He turned HIS "hurt feelings" into a song, which became a global hit.  Sure, he said it was about the media coverage of #7 and others, but he later admitted it was about his "unfair" abuse at the hands of a "mean" reporter  A song that was spawned by his abuse, rape, and drugging of two children who nearly died due to his perversions.

The Rocker spent much of the next 20 years rehabilitating his image, becoming a big political supporter and environmental activist.  Became big pals with two big politicians, #8 and #9 whom he met at events at #3's house.  He played fundraisers for them both. He never was asked again in the media about that November, and it faded away mostly.  Funny enough? You can still find it online, and yet nobody compares him to Polanski or these other monsters. Meanwhile, he became filthy rich, as did his powerful manager, and the powerful record label executive.  Their images all bought and paid for. 

What they didn't know, however, and still don't know – is what became of the other girl. That 15 year-old runaway, who took the bus ticket, cash, and blew town.  She too turned her life around, got straight, and found good people up in northern California to take her in.  She went to college, found a nice man, had a family and settled down.  That nice man she married would go on to a nice career in politics.  And with his wife's support, he's become one of the most powerful men in California politics.  Now, all the years later, that scared runaway girl has grown into a confident, fearless, brilliant woman.  She's spent the past few years (urged on by her husband and kids) putting her story and the case meticulously back together. Piece by piece. Legally.

In 2018 she's going to drop a bomb of a "reveal" on the Rocker, the Manager, and the ex-label executive.  She's prepared a criminal charge against them for many of their misdeeds (which include racketeering and collusion and criminal conspiracy), and is also hitting them with civil charges – with any funds being set aside for childhood victims.  Because, you see, those Polaroids she swiped that night? She blew town with them. Years later she found them and put them in a safe deposit box.  She now has many copies, including in her attorney's safe. They too will be revealed in her case, along with hospital records, court records, legal affidavits from old cops and Paramedics.  There's even a video deposition from the original Madam back from before her death. And the former golden boy detective? He was later caught for his many, many misdeeds and arrested.  And he talked too.

So as this Rocker sits down in his palace this Thanksgiving, giving thanks to himself for being so wonderful, he better enjoy it.  His next one will likely be spent eating from a cold, metal tray in jail.  He and his wealthy mogul pals will be the Turkeys, and justice will be served.




#1 - Permanent A list singer from a permanent A list group
#2 - The manager of #1 and many many many others.
#3 - Top 3 entertainment mogul. You don't mess with him
#4 - A+ list singer back in the day. Probably permanent A- list singer.
#5 - Permanent A list celebrity.
#6 - Celebrity madam who has passed.
#7 - Permanent A list actress who was murdered.
#8 - Permanent A+ list celebrity
#9 - Permanent A+ list celebrity and spouse of #8.




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Count Jerkula said...

I wish someone would have lured Mental Mary to a snuff film taping.

just sayin' said...

deep breaths everyone. count to five. water off your back. let it go. turn the other cheek. if we don't feed it it will go to someone else's house for food.

Count Jerkula said...

@austin and alexandria : trying to use reason with lunatics is like throwing dixie cups of water on a wildfire.

Do Tell said...

Indeed..feed the gossip, starve the troll.

Count Jerkula said...

@karen walker: rape and statutory rape are 2 different things, ya know. One usually has no statute of limitations and the other does.

I use the word whore properly, dont understand why people dont get that. It is an occhpation, not a slur.

Jayne Townsley said...

If you are open enough to check it out, reverse speech will give you some answers to both JonBenet (it confirmed what I always believed from the beginning) and Casey (was kind of surprised but it did make sense).

Peace be the journey

Tyler said...

@roxy, Is that a site you type a name into, let it process, and get results? If so, I'd appreciate the URL?

Casey - I think she medicated Caylee so she could party as was her habit, and accidentally gave her too much on one occasion causing an overdose.

Jayne Townsley said...

JonBenet case: http://reversespeech.com/reversal/the-jon-benet-ramsey-case/

Casey Anthony case: http://reversespeech.com/reversal/casey-anthony/

Count Jerkula said...

@rinky: i wish i could afford to be a sex tourist. Have you seen the black market exchange rate in Venezuela, with their swirling the bowl.economy? I could probably go their with a grand, buy one whore to chain to my bed, another whore to chain to the washer and dryer, and still have money left over to stuff their body cavities w/ cocaine and profit on the return flight.

Greece of a couple years ago had some great opportunities. One was for those Mediterranean all inclusive cruises. Whores were offering to accompany men for a week long cruise for $200. Much of the savings would have been eaten up in pricey airfaire.

Tyler said...

Thank you roxy! :)

John Doe said...

That IMDB list is no longer coming up in my search results, but one of the names that should have been on there is Stephen Collins. He is another one who was investigated by the LAPD---even confessed to his crimes--but was never charged or even arrested. I'd bet big money that he was one of Madam Alex's kiddie customers too. Its for this and other reasons why I believe that the case being brought by our unidentified woman will be HUGE. Probably lots of famous people will get caught in that net when the busts go down.

Jayne Townsley said...

You're welcome, Austin.

It's another rabbit hole and kind of addicting so be warned. :)

just sayin' said...

ignore it people. close your eyes, go to your happy place, be glad it's not you. something bad happened to make an innocent baby boy very ill and hateful. we don't need to get involved.

Count Jerkula said...

D Brown, you shouldn't let common sense get in the way of an opportunity to be outraged.

Do Tell said...

Yeah, unfortunately that three dots "block profile" tactic does not appear to work.

just sayin' said...

john doe: stephen collins was on there yesterday, must have been added after the list was archived. when i google "alleged pedophiles in the imdb", the archive page shows up as the 10th result, after:
brock pierce
jon grissom
david geffen
allen m. dershowitz
marc collins-rector
michael huffington
guy fieri
dan schneider and
a link to a voat thread about it.
Alleged Pedophiles in the IMDb

OB said...

Dear god it took FOREVER to get thru these responses. Blasts from the past aren't always welcome--but at least easy to scroll past!

Good work commenters who stayed on topic

Do Tell said...

Seth Rogen? Seriously?

Jean Pennie said...

I wonder if this is what Roseanne Barr is talking about with her cryptic tweet about people becoming woke AF this week in regards to underage sex trafficking?

just sayin' said...

do tell: i was shocked too and googled "seth rogen pedophile". there's an "info wars" youtube video (that's alec jones insane conspiracy theory website that promoted pizzagate, and they give no evidence but say he had sex with a 17-yr-old). but there are also mentions of him being complicit with his bff james franco.

annieroo said...

I would not take the count seriously looking at his dodgy link. Surprised this site allows it.

Do Tell said...

Ironically, today is World Kindness Day.

Count Jerkula said...

@annie roo: what "dodgy link"? The one i posted about the judgr saying whore rape would diminish real rape was ABCNews.

John Doe said...

@ Jean Pennie, I was reading Rosanne's tweets yesterday and wondering what the heck she was talking about. She's still a Hollywood insider but more recently also a very vocal conservative political activist. Some of that stuff she's tweeting I'd never have imagined she had in her. Very intelligent banter with insider knowledge of something big that's about to go down---cleverly disguised with vague language. She mentioned something in the past about Trump taking down the NWO pedos, and even he himself vaguely hinted at something when he tweeted that one tweet about investigation of the Podesta brothers.

Trump himself isn't doing anything, but his AG and the folks over at ICE have been rounding up lots and lots and lots of pedos over the past week. With warnings many more sealed indictments and arrests to come.

Lenza said...

@CountJerkula: You seem mad. Who wronged you? Are you identifying with the rapist? Something is up. I hope the rapist and everyone who helped him burn.

Count Jerkula said...

Who wronged me? The child who wished bad juju on me, the child who called me the t word and the mental cunt who called me a pedo.

Count Jerkula said...

The biggest revelation here is Mary Lamb admitting to sexually abusing her poor dog.

Do Tell said...

@Lenza, just ignore the attention craving toad. Wants to play victim when he/she/it's anything but.

Zenny said...

I checked out that 'reverse speech' site. What a load of hooey.

Cece said...

Not sure how I feel about the source, but, rumor has it that Mueller has filed 294 sealed indictments in federal courts across the country against high-level pedophiles, with 162 of those being in LA. This would be "H-U-G-E" by any standard.

Jayne Townsley said...

@Zenny. Thanks for the feedback.

Glad you took the time to read all the information and study it to come to such a well thought out conclusion.

Poppies115 said...

https://books.google.com/books?id=WeUCAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA34&lpg=PA34&dq=linda+ronstadt+jerry+brown&source=bl&ots=JSpAt0KUs7&sig=fAg-X-LlCfJOseCWF3HwzrlsC_I&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-2e-T_7vXAhVU7mMKHXsNCkw4HhDoAQhIMAY#v=onepage&q=linda%20ronstadt%20jerry%20brown&f=false

aanjheni said...

@poppies - nice, nice find :)

Tyler said...

Oh yeah.. complete with a group photo. Kudos Poppies.

just sayin' said...

excellent find, poppies115! basically says that jerry brown would have done anything irving azoff asked of him.

rocky619ca said...

If you read a lot of the comments. You'll get the feel for Steven Spielberg being questionable more so than Hanks. Hanks banged Goodwin then dumped her.

Poppies115 said...

What's interesting about this article is that it was written about 9 months before the incident in November, so I'm thinking this was a little quid
pro quo. Jerry Brown taught the Clinton's how to do it.

annieroo said...

Poppies thank you I looked Azoff up on IMDB and found this, has anyone ever seen this film/documentary, check out the cast...

"Inventing David Geffen"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2515126/?ref_=nm_flmg_slf_6

just sayin' said...

i have to agree with irving azoff on one thing: "i'm unimpressed with every politician. politicians are just show-biz people who are supposed to have a conscience."

annieroo said...

To be honest as with Jimmy Savile so much of this stuff is so far in the past and he said she said type of allegations I cannot see it going anywhere. There are people in this world with axes to grind or who have other issues. To get it as far as the courts is wishful thinking imo. What we need to do is protect people today especially children.

Tyler said...

annie roo, re: that last sentence. Even if all that came of any of this was that, I'd still consider it a resounding success.

just sayin' said...

+1 austin and annie roo. making their dark sides visible is better than nothing. better than letting the public go on idolizing them.

BayAreaGirl said...

Thanks himmmm for the shout out! I wish I could solve the Jon Benet case, but it still baffles me.

Wow, great find Poppies. Maybe I'm naive or too young to know what Jerry Brown was like back then, but I would be shocked to learn that he actually helped cover-up something like this. I kind of get the sense that he's happy to rezone stuff or give tax breaks but would draw the line at this. More likely, Henley used his public appearance with Brown as an in with the LAPD and DA's office. That's a much easier path than having the Gov call the police chief and judges. The Gov calling a judge or police chief would set off all kinds of alarm bells, but a call from an attorney to either would not. That's probably why Weinstien had David Boies deal with Vance Cyrus. Business as usual nothing to see here.

I think this is where the RICO charges come in: "No word on what happened to the 22 GRAMS of cocaine, 5 oz. of marijuana or 160 Quaaludes found in the rocker's bedroom strewn all over the bed. It was booked into evidence, but later became worthless as evidence." Maybe some corrupt cops are reselling those drugs and they continue to do this in other cases? RICO charges are hard to win in because they're so complex that juries get confused, but they allow prosecutors to expand their subpoenas and make it a lot easier to get wiretaps--so boatloads of evidence.

BayAreaGirl said...

@ just sayin' - not all politicians. I volunteered in Susan Davis' campaign during college. She's a genuinely nice person who cares about her constituents. She even sent us out to talk to the non-citizen migrant workers who couldn't vote. Very compassionate.

just sayin' said...

hi bay area girl!

i have to disagree with you about jerry brown's involvement, because in my imagination, it probably didn't seem like a big deal from his perspective. on the level of trump saying to james comey, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go." and then sitting back and telling linda, "don't worry honey, it's all taken care of."

i'd be shocked to hear that he got his hands dirtier than that. but it is obstruction of justice, any way you look at it, no? (you're the lawyer, not me).

just sayin' said...

bayareagirl: you're right and i overstated. kirsten gillibrand is my senator and she's awesome.

BayAreaGirl said...

@just sayin' - It would at least be obstruction but only if Jerry knew everything. Again, I only know Jerry in his current act, maybe he was different earlier in his career. When the blind mentions that #4 & #5 "support" #1, I don't think it was for this specific incident. It's one thing to blow off drug possession charges; it's a whole other thing to cover up this kind of crime.

The Donald Trump thing is a big deal because it was so f-ing bold and shows what happens when you misread the guy holding the cards. For #1, having the lawyer call the police chief or judge gives the defendant a "cushion" of plausible deniability in case they're not on board and things go South. Also, the blind makes it pretty clear that the Manager & Mogul did the clean up work.

BayAreaGirl said...

I wish Gillibrand was our senator. I voted for Kamala because she's a pit bull, but jury's still out. DiFi needs to get primaried.

The Devil in Miss Jones said...

I'm going with Anthony Rendon as the Californian politician.

ForSure said...

I knew a little bit about Susan Davis back in my days in Sacramento, and I agree, she knows the meaning of integrity (something many forget or never knew).

DiFi is going to be primaried by Kevin DeLeon, it seems, unless this little sex harrassment scandal with another state senator that he may have ignored recently blows up, then he's done and DiFi sails back into the Senate.

just sayin' said...

bayareagirl: i was only 23 in 1980 (haha, that's a funny line) so not hugely up on jerry brown's lifestyle, but as it says in the article he dropped by and hung out at the homes of all the rock stars on a regular basis. so he knew there were drugs around (duh). never heard him admit to using, and linda ronstadt always said he wasn't into any substances, but what else could she say about an elected official back then. this was pre-"i never inhaled"-clinton. linda had to have known all the details of what happened that night, just through the gossip grapevine, which means he knew. would they have to prove he had direct knowledge from first hand viewing, or that he'd seen police reports before asking them to drop the worst charges? sorry to make you think about the law outside of work!

just sayin' said...

ps the skit the other night on snl with the old dems was pretty spot on, i'm sad to say.

BayAreaGirl said...

@just sayin' - A lot of people do drugs when they party. Very very few people do what #1 did.

just sayin' said...

oh god bayareagirl i know! wasn't saying all rockstars act like that or that jerry brown EVER saw such or even imagined such dissipated behavior existed. just that he knew there were almost always drugs in people's homes, that he good reason to "know" there were drugs in henley's house.

Rachewbacca said...

Off topic but not really...has anyone read Corey Haim's Wikipedia page? Says he went to live with Robert Downey Jr and Sarah Jessica Parker in 1984, when he was 12. Sooooo, what dod RDJ know? What did SJP know? Big picture here, just a poor kid in a bad situation 2 years befor being raped by Charlie Sheen. Why is Hollywood not talking about specifics and what they knew, saw, heard?

TC said...

There is zero chance the political couple were the Clintons. While they were quite active in Arkansas at the time, neither became well known until the late 80's and didn't become a powerhouse political empire until the 90's.

Most likely the political couple they are referring to were Jerry Brown and Linda Rondstat, or Alan Cranston and his wife. They were the only two politicians on the scene at the time who had connections to the music industry and Henley was a well known supporter of both candidates and their causes.

Guesser said...

@just sayin' I was 22 in 1980, Jerry Brown was running for President during my first year voting. He was a popular write in candidate and even got the presumed uncommitted vote in NJ.(It was to late to get name on ballot). His romance with Linda Ronstadt was big news, and we always heard rumors of him with drugs and orgies,typical of the pre AIDs showbiz era. It wasn't hidden, at least not to those of us that were born gossip and political junkies. But he was also known as an intellectual, and was mentored by Hubert Humphrey, who was too ill to run.

Guesser said...

To clarity, Brown ran for President in 1976,when I was 18.

John Doe said...

Thank you Himmmmm for the shoutout. JonBenet....hmmmmm. I have some theories about that case. Will save them for some other time though.

Mike said...

Jerry Brown has been testy and easily ruffled at the UN climate summit the last couple days. He told indiginous fracking protesters he'd rather put them "in the ground" than leave oil in the ground. Later, he went off on a reporter for asking him if he was "having a good time" in Europe. Makes me wonder if he knows something's afoot and is getting stressed out.

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/11/13/ca_gov_jerry_brown_tells_indigenous

https://downtrend.com/71superb/jerry-brown-loses-it-i-hate-everything


I'd like to disagree with a poster that said Jerry Brown wouldn't have ever called in a favor to protect Don Henley. Jerry Brown built up a reputation as the "cool" politician in the 1970s. His association with rock stars was a huge part of that. If Don Henley had been convicted of rape, Jerry Brown's image in regard to his judgment and character would have suffered. And, he owed Azoff for all of that fundraising. If Azoff did ask him for help and he refused, that would have been the end of rock stars for Jerry Brown.

I am curious if the husband of the victim is indeed a politician because my first thought was this must be really huge if they are going to risk his career and also out her as having been a child prostitute. That's an almost unbelievable scenario, sort of like she's the Count of Monte Cristo. It seems more realistic that this is someone out of the public eye that has enough connections with people in power that she was able to get assistance with investigations and with legal work. If so, I have an idea where the money might be coming from.

frogger said...

#1 - Permanent A list singer from a permanent A list group - Don Henley
#2 - The manager of #1 and many many many others. - Irving Azoff
#3 - Top 3 entertainment mogul. You don't mess with him - David Geffen
#4 - A+ list singer back in the day. Probably permanent A- list singer. - Stevie Nicks
#5 - Permanent A list celebrity. - Mick Fleetwood
#6 - Celebrity madam who has passed. - Elizabeth Adams
#7 - Permanent A list actress who was murdered. - Natalie Wood
#8 - Permanent A+ list celebrity - Bill Clinton
#9 - Permanent A+ list celebrity and spouse of #8. - Hillary Clinton

just sayin' said...


mike: i love your comments about jerry brown's recent "cranky" behavior! if himmmm knows about this investigation, it's a safe bet that brown does too. i'd be cranky too! wow.

the article poppies115 posted is a must read because it shows the ardor with which brown kissed the ring of irving azoff at the time:
Squeezing Money Out Of Rock, New York Magazine article by Maureen Orth, Feb. ll, 1980

i like your theory about the victim having rich backers, and she probably does, but i believe himmmm and enty that she's married to a politician. the skeptic in me thinks it's being timed (spring 2018) to disrupt the california primaries (june 2018). i don't think there's anything for her to be ashamed of. she was a homeless 15-yr-old invited to go to a rock star's house to party, she got into trouble, but she turned her life around beautifully, stunningly even. it's a morality play, makes her and her husband sympathetic characters. i don't see (most) people demonizing them.


annieroo said...

If it is being timed to upset for some political reason e.g. the primaries, I think that is just not on. That seems just plain wrong to me.

SDaly said...

To everyone claiming they "love" a current politician, Gillibrand or whoever. You are missing the point. Don't "love" someone you don't personally know, particularly powerful public figures or celebrities. They use that love to get away with abuse and murder. Watch them, and distrust what the powerful say. They may be saying what you want to hear to cover their abuses -- Harvey Weinstein.

Also, this may all be in the past, but IMDB movie blub on Geffen notes that he shaped popular culture for 40 years. How, exactly was it shaped? Has it been beneficial? Look deeper.

Poppies115 said...

The mayor of Oakland, other than the husband thing, it's kind of possible.

just sayin' said...

annie roo: i should be more clear about timing and primaries. as himmmm and bayareagirl have pointed out, this sort of case (which is about far more than the 1980 party event) takes years and years to develop. i don't think anyone's waited years JUST to time it to the 2018 primaries. but since it sounds like the case is pretty much ready to go, it's just one of those things that makes me go, "hmm". (or himmmm?)

C&C Music Factory's "Things That Make You Go Hmmm" (& rip to an old friend, david cole)

hollyavila said...

Maybe we are missing something really important here. Maybe this leads to the Satanic cult and human sacrifice going on behind the biz. If it does, it will never come out. We are in the last and evil days when the devil has most people hypnotized. This info would wake folks up to what is really going on in this world, and they would turn to God. The devil is going to avoid that at all cost. Let's see if any of this comes out into the open.
I hung out in Greenwich Village in the 70's and 80's. The rocker crowd always bragged about the young girls, and there was always rumors of Satanic cults deep behind the scenes.

Vikki W said...

15 yo: Cheryl Hines? Born September 21, 1965 Married to Robert Kennedy Jr.

Unknown said...

Himmmm did say the woman in the blind is opaque.. @Poppies I like your guess on Libby Schaaf - Wiki, "Schaaf was born in Oakland, California, on November 12, 1965". @bayareagirl, you seem in the know for CA, what do you think?

Do Tell said...

@Mike, I thought the same exact thing when I read about Jerry Brown's "in the ground" remark. He knows the chickens are coming home to roost.

Do Tell said...

Not relevant to this blind, but for the curious, here's a very recent article about Azoff throwing his weight around, he just got the CEO of Madison Square Garden fired. https://nypost.com/2017/11/14/madison-square-garden-ceo-ousted-over-beef-with-irving-azoff/

Unknown said...

I haven't been able to even read through all of this newly posted stuff, let alone keep up with the last post, but good fucking god, I hope this asshole gets his dose of karma!

Himmmm said...

Yeah, I'm sure this is irrelevant too, and a late post, but this is just one example of what a total shit-ass Azoff is. Doc O'Connor is a fucking GREAT GUY and a real decent human being. The type who would do anything for a friend, and would stick up for an underdog. Sucks that Azoff threw Doc under the bus, but it'll be better for him in the "long run" (lol - bad Eagles pun) to not be around Azoff later.

What frightens me more is that Azoff has recently asked for permission for his own Army. Literally. He's filed applications with the ATF and State agencies for approval for his own personal "security staff" to have unrestricted use to own/carry automatic weapons; for a dozen of his "private security force" to be deputized with arrest powers as "Special Police"; and for his security staff to grow from 200 to 500. Think about that.

1. Having 500 heavily armed security staff. With fully automatic weapons, vehicles, etc. All ex-military and ex-cops. NOT beefy bouncers at the show, but an Army bigger than Blackwater.
2. Having over a dozen plain-clothes thugs with arrest powers.
3. All answering to Azoff.
4. He says all due to "possible" terror incidents at MSG venues.
5. I say BULLSHIT. Let the cops/feds do that job. At least they CAN be held accountable. Of course so many are on Azoff's payroll already.

Funny, the unshakable Mike Ovitz once called Azoff "Dr. Evil". It wasn't just due to Irving's midget size either. He probably strokes a bald cat while holding his pinky to his mouth too. Fucking monster. I hope Doc O-C lands a top job. I hear Warner Bros. is looking for a new boss.

Do Tell said...

JFC. Irving Noriega.

just sayin' said...

WOW, himmmm. is there a way to follow the progress of this application? i can see djt approving this personally unless he's jealous of the great idea. so your security can take anyone they please into custody, detain them, not to mention shoot. this needs to be stopped.

Do Tell said...

I can't see any POTUS, Trump or otherwise, would approve a security team that would basically be equal to the Secret Service in terms of legal leeway. I don't think it would just be up to one person, anyway.

Do Tell said...

Gah. *approving, not would approve.

Lemonfrog said...

I don't see how the dead/murdered girl can be Natalie Wood. The blind says the 16 year old was released from hospital and was found dead one year later...making her 17 when she died. Natalie Wood was 43 when she died.

BayAreaGirl said...

Hey Blue Bell, I'm really not that in the know. If you live here, most of stuff I've mentioned is in plain sight. For many reasons, I don't think it's Mayor Schaaf, though given the recent scandal involving a teenage prostitute and several EastBay PD's, it would be pretty ironic. Take a look for yourself:

https://localwiki.org/oakland/Libby_Schaaf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libby_Schaaf

just sayin' said...

blue bell and bayareagirl: i'm doubtful about it being libby schaaf. she was born in oakland and attended the head-royce school which is a pricey private school.

Unknown said...

Could the girl who lived be Catherine Zeta-Jones? Michael Douglas does stuff related to politics, and she's older than she claims (unless she's adjusted her age online in recent years).

Unknown said...

I remember when Roseanne Barr claimed she had been sexually abused by her parents, and most people (including myself) laughed it off as a publicity stunt (I think she had just written a book that included it). Feel kinda bad about that now. But it's another example to answer the common objection of, "Why didn't they tell anyone?"

just sayin' said...

when you're little and one (or both) of your parents has been doing certain things to you, why would you tell anyone? you don't like it but it's just part of your life. you don't like your chores either, but it's what you're expected to do. you don't see other dads acting that way so you're embarrassed and you try to hide it from people. i finally brought up my stuff to a therapist when i was in my 20's and had to be convinced it really was abuse. my dad was smart and did things that left no mark. part of me still wants to believe it was innocent attention because that's how it felt at the time. sort of...there's an instinctive awareness, even in babies, when something isn't right. and sexualizing a child or teen is never, ever okay.

bottom line, people don't make this shit up.

sandy2319 said...

Wow this is such a sad upsetting story. I hope she nails them all. No way this is Hillary Clinton, 1 why would she wait so long, I mean she was the freaking first lady why wouldn't she had done it then? 2 neither her nor Bill are from Northern California. 3 Quite frankly HRC is not very smart and I doubt she would have made it out of that situation alive and with proof. HC makes no sense and to be honest that women has no creditability with most of the country. She is morally bankrupt and is constantly lying - no-one would take her seriously expect her army of brain dead morons. Just saying...

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annieroo said...

One thing strikes me when reading all the posts on the threads relating to the sex scandals, I have no idea who the money men are, or most of the directors etc. so have to google them, when you look at early life section there is a huge elephant in the room that of their religious persuasion. Is this just a co-incidence?

Seachica said...

When mtv started, there weren’t a lot of videos yet. It took a year or two (and Duran Duran) for the record labels to realize how big videos could make a song. Don Henley was old school 70s, so I would bet there wasn’t a video made for this song at the time. The new bands with nothing to lose and a sense of fashion were the ones who embraced videos early on, not the established acts.

Unknown said...

The politicians are probably NOT republican considering the singer's politics.

Do Tell said...

@Seachica, Henley *did* make a music video for another song off the same album (I Can't Stand Still) that "Dirty Laundry" came off of. I found it a little odd, since "Johnny Can't Read" isn't nearly as good a song as "Dirty Laundry." Doesn't seem like "JCR" was the song they should have been promoting.

Do Tell said...

annie roo, don't make the mistake of thinking or implying that all the sexual abusers are Jewish. They aren't, and this has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with men (or women) with power to wield. You can look at the teachers who have sex with their students as another example.

just sayin' said...

+ a million, do tell

Alexandria said...

Since that Azoff guy got the Army, hypothetically speaking, what's the worse that can happen? He will blow up the Moon for good this time?

designace001 said...

The contextual implications here are staggering, understanding the entire timeline from both a contemporary as well as historical perspective brings it full circle.

Firmly set on the bedrock of the sexual revolution of the 60’s, the 70’s were full swing
sex, drugs and rock and roll.

Feminism was in its second wave, the passing the ERA, Roe vrs Wade and the launch of Ms. magazine had happened. Tower records had been proclaimed the ‘largest record store in the world” by way of an in house appearance (likely the only commercial Lennon made) by John Lennon. The Viet Nam War had ended and there was a scary new War on the horizon, a disease called AIDS that was beginning to be whispered about.



Cocaine was flowing, the Strip was moving from rock to glam (and from L.A. to Chicago management) and the girls were younger and younger and willing. Kim Fowley later recalled, "The English Disco was more a public-toilet version of the E Club. The new location gave it the teenage stench it needed. Everybody had great hair and great make-up, and there were Lolita girls everywhere.”



Interestingly in San Francisco, Lt. Col. Michael Aquino had established himself as a cult leader of a satanic organization called the Temple of Set. He was a High Priest while simultaneously serving in the armed forces as a military intelligence operative and psychological/propaganda warfare expert. Lt. Col. Aquino was processed out of the Army Active Reserves in 1990 after a ritual child molestation investigation. 



https://tinyurl.com/yanxtbm8



Bring your alibis
Mirrors on the ceiling, the pink champagne on ice
And she said, “We are all just prisoners here of our own device”



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--zqwZxdShDk/ULZ6PUsWykI/AAAAAAAAEok/_jahUvdxfjQ/s1600/hotelCalifornia.jpg


designace001 said...

November 1979
L.A. City of Angels



Elizabeth Adams aka Madame Alex, a former florist who reputedly purchase another Madame’s little black book catered to a high end Hollywood clientele, rockers and Arabs, mostly Saudi's.



“Silence, first, from the Saudis, her best clients for the past decade, eager to pay girls to fly first-class to New York, then Concorde to Paris. And, at the end of a weekend, eager to give them presents that far exceed the $2,000 a day her girls got for long trips. Silence from —, the famously unfaithful talent broker whose kink involved paying women to dress like his daughter. Silence from —, the rock star whose taste ran to girls so dewy and virginal that, had jailbait been on Alex’s menu, he might have flipped the aphorism used about Roman Polanski, “She was thirteen, but she looked eight.” Silence from —, the actor who married one of her girls and has been busily helping her create a new résumé.”



https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/1989/11/alex-adams-madam-hollywood



Heidi Fleiss born in L.A. 1965 would become first, one of Alex’s ‘creatures’ and then later successfully purloin her entire clientele and later supplant her as the preeminent Madam for the tony set. 



https://tinyurl.com/y7kqazpt



Year’s later when both suffered arrests reputedly it left a void, a big void. A void that was quickly capitalized on by the Arabs who quickly bought all the low level procurer’s in exclusive deals and reputedly the major trade as well, taking hundreds of girls off the street and out of Los Angeles to harems abroad. You can only wonder if “younger” women were among those recruited and if they made it back.



https://tinyurl.com/y75hlve8


designace001 said...

Jerry Brown is in his second term as Governor and is a Presidential Contender, so not a small potato’s thing. A story like this would have been a death knell for those aspirations, so you might say Jerry was highly motivated in this regard.



“Jerry Brown as governor, meanwhile, was very popular among California voters. In his first year as governor, Brown had a voter approval rating of 87 percent – then the highest in the history of polling in the state. Brown’s popularity, and public opinion about him, was then being watched very closely by President Jimmy Carter’s staff in Washington, then monitoring Brown’s activities. Carter’s aides considered Brown to be the “single largest threat” to the President’s re-election in 1980. Yet first, before Brown could challenge Carter, he faced a gubernatorial re-election campaign in California, beginning with the 1978 primary elections.”



https://tinyurl.com/ycr6of5e



http://www.pophistorydig.com/topics/tag/linda-ronstadt-eagles/



The excellent “Squeezing Money Out of a Rock” article already posted explains this well.



Bill Clinton serves as Governor of Arkansas from November ’78 - November ’80. Cocaine was flowing and Mena was Air America’s airport of choice to fly arms out and the white stuff in. Bill and Hillary later award Don the Congressional Medal of Honor in 1997.



“Berry Seal started bringing planes into Mena in 1979, but the operation never really got into full swing until late 1980. There never seemed to be any deviation from the cycle that ran until his death in 1986. Armaments were loaded at Mena. They were then flown to a private airfield in Costa Rica located on a gigantic ranch belonging to a millionaire named John Hull.


If the videotape is any indication, Seal’s operations were pulled off with a military precision that was to be expected of a former Special Forces pilot. The pattern of financing a black op, that could not be financed through normal intelligence community appropriations channels with the profits from drug sales to American citizens was being continued by the same group of men who had done it in Vietnam a decade previously. The Mena operation’s only real divergence from the guns for drugs for guns pattern was some occasional intelligence gathering duties.”



As an unsettling side note during this time period (with some of the same players) the B.C.C.I. bank, notorious for their ‘rent a sheik’ program and as a money laundering front was established.



http://www.angelfire.com/wa/fatfreddy/AirAmercia15.html. 



Do Tell said...

The Congressional Medal of Honor is awarded to military members who displayed great valor during active service.

What Don Henley was awarded was a National Medal of Arts. VERY different.

designace001 said...

Thank you for the correction do tell ;)

California Girl said...

These two girls were arrested and charged with prostitution when this occurred according to what I have read.They were being paid by a madam or her client.Not excusing the deviant behavior of Mr.Henley.He was charged in 1980 with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.With her husband running for office-she wants to look clean.But unfortunately she is not-either.

California Girl said...

The two girls in question were supposedly arrested for prostitution in regards to this incidence.They were either paid by Henley or by the madam.He was charged with contributing to a minor.I am not excusing his deviant behavior whatsoever-but these girls were working as prostitutes.That does in no means give him a pass.But she wants her record to look cleane if her husband is running for office as the governor of CA.There are no real innocent parties here.

Do Tell said...

I believe only one of them was a prostitute. In any case, the public would be far, far more willing to forgive a child prostitute than any adult that was involved in the goings on and coverups. Particularly with all the abuse it involved. As was mentioned, this is likely about something much bigger than just the one night and this was just a cog in the wheel they are looking to take down.

Verge Of a Nervous Breakdown said...

There are not that many Republicans in California.


What about Tom MClintock?

Lindsey said...

very late to a very large thread and a lil too young to understand full context of the key players but from what i can tell, jerry brown being complicit in a child trafficking ring in the 80s and then working a grandfather clause to get re-elected decades later will be the straw that breaks the american political system. i think the big picture of the timing is actually designed to capitalize on our growing lack of faith in the political system. this is related to viability of cryptocurrencies, because if you can't trust the government to govern how can you trust them to run the economy? once cryptocurrency is viable (soon) we won't need a government... and we wont want one either.

my fear is that people will be quick to blame our current corrupt political and media systems and turn to burgeoning silicon valley structures as the solution. big data would solve these problems, right? if we bust the hollywood child sex ring now, it would be impossible for a new one to start because of all the location data / facial recognition / phones etc we can use to track the movements and activities and finances of suspected madames and clientele and prostitutes... right? sike. the tech industry is so obtuse that it would take another 40 years of citizen investigation to unravel the next sex ring. i could go on but i have to work in a couple of hours and haven't slept because of this fantastic thread.

but honestly, i think that the big piece that is being missed is the long term effect this will have on all facets of american life. this story is several large facets of core american culture colluding over decades to exploit the one vulnerable population we can all agree on: children. if y'all were looking for the new world order angle... here it is.

OhFrenchie! said...

If the other victim is waiting until 2018 to explode this shit bomb all over the other pusbags that were involved, she may be waiting until her last child is out of the house and on to college or whatever. Good on her.

Clermont Candice said...

Not even for the racketeering?

Ann Jensen said...

Jerry Brown (and his dad before him) have been implicated in all sorts of shady doings. And he and Linda were a "power couple" back before that phrase had been invented. So those names fit right in with his 'Governor Moonbeam) era.

http://www.calbuzz.com/2010/07/9096/

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-bill-ending-lifetime-registry-of-sex-1507332406-htmlstory.html

mañana-life said...

Donny is going to have a peaceful, uneasy feeling bunking with Bubba in the Crossbar Hotel California.

Do Tell said...

Eh, doubtful.

Suan said...

The ummm madam went to the homeless shelter and the bus depot searching for runaways. Well that's a far cry from 'a hooker'. She also told them they didn't have to have sex, just hang out with him.

The article says, In November of 1980, Don Henley was arrested after a naked 16-year old girl was found at his home in Los Angeles suffering from a drug over-dose;

He said “I didn’t have sex with her: Yes, she was a hooker. Yes, I called a madam. I don't give a rats ass, the age of consent in CA is 18. He knew they were 15 and 16 years old.

Henley allegedly felt that popular Los Angeles news anchor for KABC-TV, Christine Lund, over-sensationalized the arrest. Over-sensationalized? I HOPE to God this happens to him. What a disgusting 'thing' he is.

Joni B said...

Linda Ronstadt was jerry brown's girlfriend.

Joni B said...

Oh Henley, karma is coming for you.

Joni B said...

She would have been 15 in November of 1980.

Do Tell said...

Who, Linda?? She was 34 in 1980.

Zeroh Tollrants said...

There you go. I was waiting to comment to see if anyone got all the slots correct, and @Drombeg looks to be the first to get them all. Good job!
Now, we can all wait patiently and hope this one comes all the way out and ruins that POS Don Henley for good, once and for all.
I've been wanting him to go down,for what seems like forever.

Zeroh Tollrants said...

Yup, @chip whitley you were the only person who has gotten that part. No one remembers to ask who was the reporter.
I actually learned something new about this that I haven't known all these yrs, who the judges were and I didnt have an idea about the 15 yr old's whereabouts or even if she was still living, so that's cool you guys dug all of that up.

Zeroh Tollrants said...

No one thinks they were "involved," that's not even insinuated. As for them knowing about this? Of course they do, lol.
For one thing, *I* knew about this, and I'm a nobody. Also, you don't fraternize with A list politicians until they've had the spooks give your entire life an oral cavity exam.
Besides, they have been much too busy committing, (and covering up), their own crimes the last 4 decades.
REAL crimes, (not that this isn't a "real" crime), the kind that involve multi levels of various governments, and money laundering through despotic dictators and crime cartels across the globe, that affect millions of lives, not just these two poor young girls.
Talk about ripping a hole in the universe, if even one of their multitude of crimes was ever allowed to fully see light of day, no attempts to cover it up? That would be Earth-shaking.

Zeroh Tollrants said...

I hope for her sake that it isn't Kevin McCarthy that's her hubby.
He's dumber than a box of hammers and got caught last year...maybe that was year before last, sorry can't remember exactly, anyway, he was having a long term affair w/a Congresswoman.
She's been disposed of, and for some reason, (I know the reason-they all have dirt on each other), the Democrats and the media didn't blow the story up and the Republicans wisely kept their mouths shut, after the first day or so of condemnations and McCarthy's name being withdrawn from Speaker of the House position, that was supposed to be his, but he couldn't keep his pecker in his pants, so Paul Shitbag Ryan got the gavel.

Zeroh Tollrants said...

I don't know who the woman is, haven't given it much thought, but I cannot in my wildest dreams picture anyone calling that bag of shit, Gavin Newsom, a "nice man."
I made the comment above that CA Repub Kevin McCarthy was dumb, I can now be bi-partisan-
He and Gavin Newsom are like brain twins, with matching, basement level IQs.
In all seriousness, GN has been paid off and also paid off others on his behalf, so many times, it's a wonder he doesn't need a fleet of accountants keeping up w/the flow.
But, he gets paid well, from South of the border. Not as well as Antonio Villaraigosa, but he's done pretty well.

Anonymous said...

Judy’s my guess.

Do Tell said...

Eagles tickets went on sale today for their October date at Madison Square Garden, and I felt like it should have come with a big red flag, "If you never buy ticket insurance for any other event, buy it for THIS one."

Kryptos said...

Per the blind: 1. She was born November 1965. 2. Her husband "went on to have a nice career in politics." 3. "And with his wife's support he's become one of the most powerful men in California politics." Here is a link to the blind for reference http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-item-1-he-made-millions-from.html
Now, Enty is VERY careful with his words. The assumption is her husband went on to have a nice career in CALIFORNIA politics--but that is not what is written. It doesn't say WHERE he went on to have a nice career in politics. I BELIEVE THE GIRL IS SARAH COX, WIFE OF CALIFORNIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE JOHN FOX. Why? 1.) Per his Wikipedia page, he credits his wife Sarah for "inspiring him to run for president" 2.) The "nice career in politics" was in IL 4.)John Cox is running as gubernatorial candidate for CA in June 2018 primary 5) They have four daughters; the CDAN blind referenced "kids" 6) PLEASE SEE THIS ARTICLE AS IT TIES IT ALL TOGETHER: http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/14754
John Cox was born July 15, 1955 (per Wikipedia page). The Weekly Standard article says his wife Sarah is "eleven years his junior." Now--note the date of the article: May 21, 2007. This date would put the 15yr old girl in the blind at age 41 at the time of the article. Technically, given his precise birthdate, John would have been only TEN years older than the girl--however he would be turning 52 less than two months after the date of the article. Very easy to simply round to the nearest birthdate, thus making her "11 years his junior."

Now fast forward to CDAN blind posted 6 days after the Henley blind--coincidence? http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-item-1-political-murder.html

Emily said...

So, shouldn’t this have “come out” by now? It’s almost May and nothing about Don Henley. Is this ever going to be revealed?

just sayin' said...

Himmmm said on twitter this week that it should be in May but that May has 31 days. Also that the woman "coming out" has a burden on her shoulders and we should respect that. I hope she doesn't change her mind, but there's been so much weirdness in the political world this year, who knows?

Do Tell said...

The Eagles just postponed.rescheduled a concert because Don is suffering from an "unspecified illness." Timely, if coincidental.

Velora said...


As soon as Himmmmm posted the twitter update on this case, Fleetwood Mac was instantly in the news again. The viral video, the Buckingham firing/selling of his mansion and now a 2018 tour.

People are obviously getting nervous.


Sharon Mitchell said...

That is exactly what he will do. Nowadays, he'd be expected to card them.

Jennifer Tyler said...

I read a book about 4 women that worked for Heidi Fleiss back in the day they all said one of the Eagles was a sweetheart and one of their fav clients and another one was one of their worst customers, most of the girls did not want that gig. It was an interesting book, though who knows how real it was though in hindsight I was younger and more naive then. It named names of some of the clients. Heidi never did release her little black book. I was particularly fascinated with the trips to entertain the princes of the House of Saud. Apparently they were the sought after gigs according to the book. Must have come out after Heidi got busted. I guess that pre-dated yachting.

Do Tell said...

Yeah, that book was called "You'll Never Make Love In This Town Again". For people who are into the blinds here, it is a worthwhile read and so is its sequel. The "sweetheart Eagle" was Glenn Frey, who the girls said treated them very well, and Don Henley was the one they all dreaded getting a call from, because he was in the middle of his out of control boozing-raging cokehead days. He would really put them through a lot and they were afraid to wake him up because he would start with them all over again if they did. One or two of them said he was such a huge alkie that he reeked of it like the booze was coming out of his pores.

Do Tell said...

This is recent: A women's group, UltraViolet, is lobbying to have the music of certain male artists, including Steven Tyler, Ted Nugent, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Don Henley, banned from Spotify, because they say the musicians are being “glorified despite allegations of abuse.”

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/womens-group-spotify-band/

Dahling said...

Interesting article about Brambles, Adams & Henley. Doesn't solve anything but pertains to....

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-07-24/news/mn-19382_1_golden-boy

Emily said...

Now it’s August and nothing. Since this was a real event, either Enty made up who the victim was, or posted a blind about a victim who doesn’t want to be outed. Seriously awful either way.

Unknown said...

It’s September 2018! What happened!!!??? The story sounds true so why hasn’t it dropped? Why are people so afraid to reveal the truth? That’s how change happens and when 1 comes out then more do. Stop being afraid or silenced.

Viking_lass said...

Steve Knight?

Aria said...

Hey! I'm new here and wanted to offer this piece that dropped in my lap. Tia mentioned another gal that could have been the 15 yr. I haven't read it all yet but could be her. https://thegipster.blogspot.com/2017/

Unknown said...
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TC said...

I wish "Unknown" would have kept his/her comment up.

Nice to see this blind resurrected, it was the blind that introduced me to CDAN.

Unlike many here I still hold out hope that this blind plays out.

Unknown said...

My comment was, simply, that I believe I know the identity of the girl who ODed.

Suan said...

Who do you think unknown?

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