Sunday, May 20, 2018

Blind Item #8

Within the past few weeks I wrote how the island owner and his supposedly former friend/attorney were hanging out again. Apparently it all has to do with what the foreign born convicted child molester told the feds before he fled the country. That child molester was a supplier to the island owner and frequent visitor to the island. The island owner also would sometimes pass along teens to NXIVM when he was finished with them. It was a way to keep track of those that knew big secrets. Others that knew big secrets would end up as a wife to friends of the foreign born convicted child molester where they still remain. 


Tricia13 said...

Epstein/Dershowitz/Marc Rector

Tricia13 said...

He’s American so Either Garth Ancier or Goddard
Ancier I think

Spitbite said...

Wow, Trish, the wiki for that guy replicates another blind or two here about lawsuits really being about attracting other clients. What's true and what aint?

Burke said...

Or that Nader guy

Tricia13 said...

If you talking about Ancier I lean toward him because he was known in cirvkes(Bway/theatre) to be more than a little shady in many ways. He produced /collaborated on a couple of things with a friend of mine , and it was always— oh Garth😰.

Spitbite said...

Thanks Tricia, yeah, him. Bleh, you have contact with this stuff! Creepy!

just sayin' said...

No, this isn't the Hollywood man-boy love gang, this is Epstein, Dershowitz and George Nader who is now an informant to the Mueller investigation.

just sayin' said...

This story is a big part of why Trump is in overdrive today to shut down Mueller, and why Nader has disappeared off the face of the earth. Let's just hope he's not sleeping with the fishes as more of his testimony is needed.

IanPhlegming said...

So what does this all mean, exactly? Things are coming to a head? The cover up is rolling as planned? The NXIVM guy is going to be scapegoated but that's where it ends? It's pretty clear that if Epstein goes down, he'll pull a hundred famous people with him, maybe even Trump, so what are the odds of that even happening?

Raddddd said...

Yes, this is most likely George Nader as the foreign born child molester. Though it could also be Jean Luc Brunel.

Warning: if you google either of them, it will take you down a rabbit hole! Both are shady AF and linked to Epstein & Dershowitz.

Thorne said...

Epstein, Dersh, Nader.

notthisagain said...

Within the past few weeks I wrote how the island owner [EPSTEIN] and his supposedly former friend/attorney [DERKSHOWITZ] were hanging out again. Apparently it all has to do with what the foreign born convicted child molester [GEORGE NADER] told the feds before he fled the country. That child molester [GEORGE NADER] was a supplier to the island owner [EPSTEIN] and frequent visitor to the island. The island owner [EPSTEIN[ also would sometimes pass along teens to NXIVM when he was finished with them. It was a way to keep track of those that knew big secrets. Others that knew big secrets would end up as a wife [MELANIA TRUMP] to friends [TRUMP] of the foreign born convicted child molester [GEORGE NADER] where they still remain.

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GeeWallyThatWouldBeWrong said...

Epstein/Dershowitz ... Clintons.


In college I banged a girl from Ghana who was sorority sisters with a friend of Alan Dershowitz's daughter.
My, I've been having interesting meetings of late.


She had obviously never been fucked like that either.

Guesser said...

Nadar was giving testimony to get out of a new child molesting charge. When it became known he was a convicted pedo,he was discredited as a witness,and hasn't returned. Nadar can be seen swimming with Former President Bill Clinton and famous pedo art collector Tony Podesta, January 2017. Nadar has worked for and with several administrations both Democratic and Republican. His personal relationship with President Clinton is the closest, however.

PoliticallyIncorrect71 said...

You’re delirious. Trump’s in a mission to end these trafficking pipelines. Read through his twitter since 2013. Then check his EO from Dec 21 & compare it to the list of CEOs & Hollywood types outed or who’ve stepped down. They’re all involved. Looks like next week is go time. I hope he pulls the noose on them all.

PoliticallyIncorrect71 said...

You’ve also written that Epstein was last seen trafficking to Clooney’s birthday party in Italy

T. W. said...


Late to the party. All I understand is that some guy owns a private island. Rich & powerful men go there to rape children. Some children are trafficked to the island. I cannot recall names. Do I understand correctly? Am I missing anything?

Thank You.

Unknown said...

Wait a this place some kind of hub for pizzagate whackos? These comments are off the deep end...I hope people are properly medicated.

Poor Mick said...

You people are pathetic.

Some of the businessmen who dine with him at his home—they include newspaper publisher Mort Zuckerman, banker Louis Ranieri, Revlon chairman Ronald Perelman, real-estate tycoon Leon Black, former Microsoft executive Nathan Myhrvold, Tom Pritzker (of Hyatt Hotels), and real-estate personality Donald Trump—sometimes seem not all that clear as to what he actually does to earn his millions. Certainly, you won’t find Epstein’s transactions written about on Bloomberg or talked about in the trading rooms. “The trading desks don’t seem to know him. It’s unusual for animals that big not to leave any footprints in the snow,” says a high-level investment manager.


Stop making this shit into team sports, because they're all in on it and covering for one another. Trump's not your guy and he never was, he's a kvetchy New York landlord and a wannabe socialite schmoozer who got kicked out of the club for being a meanie and forgetting to put a smiley face and a trademark symbol on sucking the country dry. His "honesty" is refreshing compared to the leathery Hell of a Clinton dynasty but at least they might've kept using lube once every so often while they fucked us in the ass.

Guesser said...

@TW, please look up Epstein,the Lolita Express, Nadar,and Dershowitz. Don't let others make up your mind,some will conveniently slant it their own way. But this is real, and puts conspiracy theories to shame.

Unknown said...

Saying "Google this theory" is meaningless at this point. Because every whacked out conspiracy theory in the world is on the internet.

If I wanted, I could tell you to "go look up" the theory about how earthworms really controlled Truman Capote's mind and he was behind the assassination attempt on Queen Elizabeth II...and I bet there's some whacko with a youtube channel trying to convince me of it.

Quote the actual court cases and testimony people are talking about above.


I like the conspiracy theory that Prince William and Queen Elizabeth II don't cannibalize children.

Kno Won said...

Yes. Yes, it is.


I'm shooting an indie film on Pizzagate in Rehoboth Beach and the Earl Bradley case

Unknown said...

God it’s refreshing to see you support a pedo...sicko!! GTFO

Maggie T said...

Richard Brandon and his Necker Island hosted NXIVM parties.

Cadmium77 said...

Father Dougal said...
Wait a this place some kind of hub for pizzagate whackos? These comments are off the deep end...I hope people are properly medicated.

anon4 said...

About a yr or 2 back, there was a BI w/ Melania Trump as the reveal. She was the "prize" that the Russian mob gave to associates when they did well. They sent her to Donald, and he liked her "services" so much he married. I wonder if it's another wife, or if through her work w/ the Russian mob she up Epstein and his island or was on it?

Rafael said...

The pedo Tribe attacks again. Oy Vey!!!

Bumtitty said...

Prince Andrew was looking a bit glum at the big wedding the other day, as though he would prefer to be on an island somewhere.

Mean Man said...

George Nader?

VRWC said...

What politically incorrect said x1000

tinydancer61 said...

Branson has a private island too...and a connection to NXIVM.

Schneiderisnext said...

Thank you @Enty!

Based on prior blinds, convicted Pedo is George Nader.

Epstein is island owner (little St. JAMES-VIRGIN ISLANDS)

Dershowitz is the lawyer (a prior blind detailed how dershowitz, spacey, spielberg and Clinton have all been questioned about visiting Epstein's island)

NXIVM connection is HUGE!

Can anyone confirm of associations between Epstein and Raniere or Nader and Raniere?

Many people suspect this "network" of pedophiles/procurrers is connected.

@Enty seems to be pointing

Schneiderisnext said...

"properly medicated" used to be a lobotomy.

Don't you have some pedo-priests you should be shuffling around @Father Dougal?

Unknown said...

That’s funny. He’s just as wrapped up in this as every other shady politician.


Somewhere in all of this, Geeljire told the world's funniest version of "the Aristocrats" (note: I have never seen Gilbert Gottfried's post-9/11 miracle) and took his cell phone into an uptown jacuzzi.


IanPhlegming said...

Gotta wonder whether @FatherDougal is putting us all on with the naivety, if you know the "Father Ted" character he's spoofing here.

"Father Ted" one of the funniest TV series of all time, in case you haven't seen it.

plot said...

"Trump’s in a mission to end these trafficking pipelines"

No he isn't. He has done NOTHING to improve on the sex trafficking units started in 2009 by Obama.

His twits mean absolutely shit.

Mary Lamb said...

@Just sayin'
You've got it.

Trump says a lot of things and you eat it up. Enough said.

plot said...


Lately, yes, the pizzagate phonies, who think pedophilia is a form of entertainment for themselves and their friends, are here. Enty wants them here. Hmmm wants them here. Mr. Hedge wants them here especially since he loves calling everyone he can a pedophile. AJ Benza has been calling to them, bidding them to flood the CDAN boards.

So here we have it, these terrible people. They think of pedo conspiracies as sport.

plot said...

BTW all, Nader is in and out of the country under guard and special protections. He hasn't disappeared. He's still around and the Trump Crew is terrified, hence why this blind was published at all.

Mary Lamb said...

You're so sick, Marmot!

Schneiderisnext said...

I figured we were due for @PLOT's halftime show.

Every time @Enty posts regarding human trafficking, child abuse, or pedophilia. @Plot denies, deflects, or distracts.

In the 8 months I've been reading/posting, more and more people have caught @Plot.

Most ignore her (Don't feed the trolls).

I prefer to shine light @ darkness.

Schneiderisnext said...

Only @plot calls pedophilia "entertaining". In her accusations of "phonies", I only hear projection.

The rest of us find it horrifying.

This isn't a "partisan" issue, it isn't "Pizzagate". It isnt Republican, or Democrat

It is organized human, sex-trafficking

NXIVM absolutely did it. FrankReport revealed yesterday that NXIVM (Dr. Porter and Alison Mack) were recruiting a teenage girl for sex slavery and medical experiments under the guise of acting classes.

Silly said...

Melania Trump as a hooker....i believe it.

and i think Axel Rose was onto to something too.

Unknown said...

It's sad to watch people try to ridicule away accusations of child molestation and other crimes, when they (like any of us) couldn't possibly know those accusations are false, simply because they fear it will cause harm to their political masters. That seems like going way beyond reasonable partisanship to me.

Guesser said...

@plot,like you always ask, "proof"! The blind says he fled the country. Nader was being shaken down to give info on Trump in exchange for immunity from prosecution after they found something on his computers. Go back to the original blind,when we were not aware he was a convicted sex offender, and it stated he would say anything to get out of trouble. Now that this is public knowledge, do you consider him a reliable witness? Do you think the public will allow immunity for pedo crimes? His conviction involved 14 year old boys. I wonder what else was on the computer?

plot said...


What do you want proof of?

Mueller's team has been secreting witnesses into the FBI since the beginning, even taking them in plain site at Dulles, without anyone knowing.

Nader has been in and out of the country several times that we know of. He has access to private planes, as well.

Speaking of proof, where is the immunity deal for Nader? Full immunity? Partial? Do you know? See, I can't find a source that claims to have seen this immunity deal in full. Immunity is usually granted on conditions, such as being prepared to be a truthful witness at Grand Juries or trials, at a moment's notice. Or it is granted on the the condition of a conviction. So, what was Nader's deal, precisely? Do you know? I sure don't.

"do you consider him a reliable witness?"

I have no idea since I have no idea what he is been a witness to. However, I don't think that Mueller would use him as a witness unless there were several other sources backing what Nader has to divulge.

The child porn charge is separate from the transferring of money to the Trump campaign from foreign sources and setting up the meeting in the Seychelles between Vlad's guy and Eric Prince (brother of Bitsy DeVos, the guy who wants our tax dollars to pay for his private army AGAIN. There's a guy invested in making sure we go to war with Iran.)

BTW do we know if the child porn was Nader's? Or was he transporting it for someone? At any rate, the prior charge along with anything since of that nature, might not be covered by immunity. Perhaps only his illegal activity for Trump is in this immunity deal. If that is the case, the child porn might be the sword hanging over Nader.

I *imagine* Nader is in protective custody somewhere very far away.

Unknown said...

@mary lamb, as opposed to everything you slurp up from Hilldog, MSM, and the democrats? Pot meet kettle, enough said!😂

Stila said...

@plot is a cleaner. Always posts when pedophiles are mentioned. Always says, "There's nothing to see here."

Guesser said...

@plot,you stated "Nader is in and out of the country under guard and special protections". You stated that as if it were a fact,the blind states he fled the country. Knowing what is known now,why would he voluntarily return? No one would,unless they had full immunity. Even then, if new charges were brought,they probably wouldn't be included. The crimes he was convicted of were actual sexual assaults , not pornography, 10 separate charges. I seriously doubt he just stopped.

plot said...

The blind says he fled the country but that is not the common behavior of someone who submits evidence for immunity. We don't know where he is, right? We do know that Mueller is hiding witnesses, for months at a time, who are testifying to the Grand Juries or being interviewed by the FBI, right? We didn't know Papadopoulos was turned by Mueller, had been interviewed for many hours, was cooperating and testifying. We didn't know that for many many months, right? We don't know to what Rick Gates is up to, though he pled guilty, though he is cooperating, right? But we assume all these guys are in and out of DC or FBI offices or testifying at Grand Juries regularly now. Why not make that assumption about Nader?

Nader has left the USA and come back a few times since he started cooperating, that we know of. He is now the enemy of many powerful people for cooperating, so where do YOU think he is? He has no choice at this point. He is due to testify many many times in the USA and people outside the USA want him indisposed.

Again, his pornography or assault charges are not a part of his other charges that we know of.

I hate to break the news to you but we depend on a whole lot of awful people to keep our country safe from those even more awful. This shouldn't be news to you.

Schneiderisnext said...


"But we assume all these guys are in and out of DC or FBI offices or testifying at Grand Juries regularly now. Why not make that assumption about Nader?"

1 assumption + 1 assumption =/= fact

"Nader has left the USA and come back a few times since he started cooperating, that we know of"

-proof? You've claimed this twice.

Theresa said...

Actually, poor mick, I read on Victoria Roberts extensively when she came out as one of the sex slaves who serviced Prince Andrew. I distinctly remember her mentioning how Trump would show up occasionally. He was always very polite to the girls but had no interest in sex with any of them.
This was before Trump ran for any office. He never drank. It is possible he was sickened by what he witnessed and vowed to do something about it. I was pleasantly surprised to learn about his EO against human trafficking. I thought back to What Victoria Robert had said about him.

Guesser said...

@plot,those you mentioned are US citizens, and are in no way going to spend the rest of their lives as registered sex offenders. Nader could, in fact, be hiding in a place with some powerful people with the same interests he has,I bet their are quite a few. When Nader returned to the US,the charges he was convicted of were not publicly known,remember we looked, knowing about the porn charges he got away with. And sometimes the people are too awful to be used in this way. With his connections, who knows what could come out.

plot said...


I'm not sure I understand you.

" Nader could, in fact, be hiding in a place with some powerful people"

What powerful people? Saying "some powerful people" isn't a valid supposition.

We will see Nadar again, count on it, just like we will see Chaffetz again, and Papadopoulos, and Gates.

If you think Nader is the most awful person the USA has had to depend on for the release of hostages or to make a case against a more terrible threat, you are very very young and innocent.

Mary Lamb said...

I don't think Plot is a cleaner, although she may be. I think she enjoys argument. Where she falls short, on either plane and every single time, is where she will deliberately pick a quote of another commenter that deflects heavily on the topic more important to the conversation, if you can call it that.
She has no proof nor any reliable news source.

Mary Lamb said...

Schneiderisnext, I'm glad you've stuck around. I'll say it again, you have the patience of a saint. :)

plot said...


A conversation can't happen if there are holes in the discussion at hand. For someone to say "some powerful people" as an excuse for the public disappearance of Nader doesn't enhance the subject at hand. I don't mind being wrong at all. I invite it. But I'm not going to join a delicious fiction of "powerful people" and pizza topping nonsense, nor those entertained by the pedophile circus they've created.

When discussing something this serious, I expect serious conversation, not some comic book narrative to thrill 4chan and Qanoners.

Schneiderisnext said...

@Mary lamb

Thanks for sticking it out too.

The one thing I give @plot credit for is consistently ignoring me (after we sparred for 300+ comments).

Still won't stop me from critiquing her when she defends pedophiles

Case in point:

@Plot "BTW do we know if the child porn was Nader's? Or was he transporting it for someone?"

PLOT's daily attempt to cast doubt on a child sex crime.

Does it matter? Both are Morally reprehensible.

Schneiderisnext said...


For a conversation to happen, both sides need to listen, and acknowledge each other.

So I will ask AGAIN about the holes in your narrative:

"Nader has left the USA and come back a few times since he started cooperating, that we know of"

When did he leave and come back? This CLAIM "we all know of" is still unsubstantiated.

Guesser said...

@plot,thank you for the unintended complement,I am in fact 60years old,female,and have been told I look younger,now I even sound younger. I do believe you know exactly what I meant,Nader had gone missing for years,as far as I know we do not know exactly where that was. His conviction was well hidden, that is not done without help.

Mary Lamb said...

Exactly. If it's his porn or transporting it, he's equally guilty of facilitating child molestation.
Yes, I know the argument where if they're just looking it's not a crime. My ass. It's an appetizer.
And yes, Plot does consistently veer from the substance of what's important.
Keep up the good fight, Scheiderisnext. I really respect you for it.

Mary Lamb said...

There she goes with the Pizza bullshit. That's what she does, over and over again, when she's lost any credibility.

She has nothing to back up her claim where Nader has or hasn't been.
And, I have to add, that the 'we all know of' makes me laugh. Isn't the first time she's used that line and won't be the last. Us dummies are supposed to take her word for it.

Cadmium77 said...

Pizzagate is real. Pretty funny to see the feeble efforts of the paid shills here to try to ridicule it with the old CIA Kennedy assassination "conspiracy theory" meme.

Mary Lamb said...
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Schneiderisnext said...

@mary lamb

The best part is that we now recognize her tactics and are able to dismantle and deconstruct the unsourced claims and emotional triggers.

And the longer she refuses to respond, the more glaring the hypocrisy becomes.

Mary Lamb said...

One more thing, PLOT...
What I find funny is your insistence that others have 'holes in their discussion' when it is you that pretends to have information that you are unable to share.
I call that 'holier than thou'.

Mary Lamb said...

You've got her pegged. It took me a bit longer and I guess that's why she'll engage me.
I've had a bad habit of giving people the benefit of the doubt, even after she tried to berate me, nonsensically. She has her tactics and one has to wonder why.
Is she just after debate for debate sake or is she being paid to obfuscate, I don't know.
I don't want to engage her, I'm a very peaceful person, but when she spews shit, I find it difficult to ignore her. :)

MatineeIdolx said...


Guesser said...

@plot, " he is now the enemy of many powerful people... " Your words. I made no mention of Pizza. I had no idea what Qanoners are.I barely know what 4Chan is,probably I heard of it here first. What powerful people? Not a valid supposition. Gotcha! Goodnight,plot, I'm sure the West Coast can continue to amuse you.

ben_matlock said...

long time lurker. felt compelled to make an account just to say that @plot, if actually sincere and not shill (hi, arewesure), appears to be so consumed with partisanship that she refuses to see the obvious truth. cognitive dissonance can be a hellova thing.

Schneiderisnext said...


(R/cst?...longtime lurker there)

Cadmium77 said...

those people around Alefantis...they're totally normal. Nothing to see here folks, just move on.

totally normal people. Only kooks would get alarmed..

ben_matlock said...


Sorry, not familiar with that sub, nor do I visit reddit. Perhaps you also do some lurking on v/pg?

Unknown said...

plot isn't a shill. Plot is a mentally disturbed, very lonely and bitter woman, who lives in her own world, she creates for herself, to cope better with reality. Some people act this way. I'm sure you all know at least one. They don't accept the truth, how their life has turned out, or that others have differing opinions, they reject facts and reality, and that others might have things they don't and wish they did, so they prefer to construct something out of lies, which they then believe. Then they will rant and rave to protect those lies from anyone who will doubt their versions. For once the house of cards they have constructed for themselves falls, they have nothing.

Plot has nothing - gossip on cdan. She is one of the saddest, loneliest and intense virtual characters I have ever have the displeasure to 'meet', online and I for one prefer to ignore her now, because insulting or fighting with somebody this pitiful, does not make one feel better. You don't pick on the mentally ill.

EllaMinnow said...

I remember reading about that case on voat. "Worst pedophile in America", he was a trusted hospital pediatrician. I don't envy all the research you have to do to make a movie on Dr. Bradley but thank you for doing it.

A-pathetic said...

*Branson and I have no idea who this is referring to.

designace001 said...

That's working pretty well for Stormy, isn't it Plot?

Amazing after a year and an an expediture of more than 10MIL our best witnesses are a porn star that specializing in anal sex and aconvicted pedophile.

Sociopaths are attracted by what repels others Plot.


@Schneiderisnext, in 89 the uncle of Sara and Clare Bronfman and Ghislaine's father tried to buy the Jerusalem Post together, always nice to own your media. Family connections.

Other than that, maybe a Mexico/NM connection or a Ghislaine/Salzman/NY connection? Very diffiuclt to find. Brunel? Ray Chandler? It's there somewhere. Gut feeling the Standard is somewhere on the perimeter as well.

Wth is Dershowitz reinserting himeself for? Very conflicted position for him particularly after he slipped through the noose with Virginia Roberts last time.

La Femme Italienne said...

Well apparently you didn’t read “extensively” enough. The woman’s name is Virginia Roberts; you also fail to mention she was hunted down at by Epstein while she worked as a towel girl at Mar-Lagoon and was a slave between 1999 to 2001.
“message pads from Epstein's Palm Beach mansion that were seized by investigators and obtained by VICE News indicate that Trump called Epstein twice in November of 2004. And a 2003 story in New York reported that Trump had dined at Epstein's Upper East Side home, a nine-story building that is reportedly the largest private residence in Manhattan.”

So so it doesn’t sound like he was that sicken by what he saw until the Epstein investigation started in 2005 as he conveniently started to back away. And if he wanted to do something about this mess, he would’ve done right his own employee. Enough with the excuses.

designace001 said...

Here's another direct top down connection. Mega Group was launched in 1991 by Seagrams Corp. director Charles Bronfman and Victoria's Secret owner Leslie Wexner. JE manages Wexners $$$. Didn't Raneire's father work in advertising for Bronfman? I think Schneiderisnext left a link for that the other night.

weird old reddit thread from 2 years ago, off topic bit coins?

designace001 said...

@ La Femme Italienne Africaine with all due respect (and I'm not sure who you are addressing), this is way, way, way bigger than Epstein alone. To even have it become this exposed is huge, to dismantle it really almost will take an act that could very likely be interpreted as an act of war.

Cadmium77 said...

plot said...

Lately, yes, the pizzagate phonies, who think pedophilia is a form of entertainment for themselves and their friends, are here. Enty wants them here. Hmmm wants them here. Mr. Hedge wants them here especially since he loves calling everyone he can a pedophile. AJ Benza has been calling to them, bidding them to flood the CDAN boards.

So here we have it, these terrible people. They think of pedo conspiracies as sport.

4:50 PM

oooh I knew someone would come back with an adhominem attack but I must say I haven't seen this one before.

Pedophilia as a sport.

Discussing criminal acts that are going unreported by the MSM on one of the few sites that doesn't censor the news like the politically driven MSM is now a "sport".

Webster's Dictionary
a contest or game in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules and compete against each other. : sports in general. : a physical activity (such as hunting, fishing, running, swimming, etc.) that is done for enjoyment

I don't see anything sportive about this matter at all.

I bet you were one of the shills howling about how Trump could never win during the campaign.
I bet you were one of the people pushing the Russian conspiracy bs all this year.

Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting prostitution from girls as young as 14 and all he got was 13 months in a white collar prison where he was free to come and go as he pleased
The Guardian said, "Despite this, the US government eventually agreed to allow Epstein to plead guilty to just one count of soliciting prostitution from an underage girl under Florida state law. ... Epstein agreed not to contest civil claims brought by the 40 women identified by the FBI, but escaped a prosecution that could have seen him jailed for the rest of his life. ... Prosecutors agreed not to bring far more serious federal charges against Epstein, and not to charge "potential co-conspirators", including four named individuals
The International Business Times reported that papers filed in a 2006 lawsuit alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls by prominent people for criminal purposes, such as blackmail.[20] Epstein allegedly "loaned" girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to gain possible blackmail information.[7] In 2015, evidence came to light that one of the powerful men at Epstein's mansion may have been Prince Andrew, Duke of York.[7]

A former employee told the police that Epstein would receive massages three times a day.[18] Eventually the FBI received accounts from about 40 girls whose allegations of molestation by Epstein included overlapping details

tinydancer61 said...

@boredatwork bored at work--That woman you describe sounds a lot like HRC. Maybe ol' @plot is HRC herself! Protecting that Clinton "legacy!" lol Ohhh...@plot....even though you're arguments are nuts, you keep it interesting.

Unknown said...

@tinydancer - that would explain so much ........ plot and HRC have something else in common, besides mental illness and a severe detachment from reality: Trump is president to both of them.

Melody the First said...

The very idea that Trump is trying to "end" child sex trafficking is ridiculous. He is the central power figure in child sex trafficking. Anything he spews to the contrary is merely an attempt to cover his tracks.

This isn't politics. Anyone, Republican or Democrat, who is involved will face justice. Trump will most definitely be among them.

Cadmium77 said...

Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption

Issued on: December 21, 2017

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act (Public Law 114-328) (the “Act”), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)) (INA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption that have their source, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States, such as those committed or directed by persons listed in the Annex to this order, have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems. Human rights abuse and corruption undermine the values that form an essential foundation of stable, secure, and functioning societies; have devastating impacts on individuals; weaken democratic institutions; degrade the rule of law; perpetuate violent conflicts; facilitate the activities of dangerous persons; and undermine economic markets. The United States seeks to impose tangible and significant consequences on those who commit serious human rights abuse or engage in corruption, as well as to protect the financial system of the United States from abuse by these same persons.

I therefore determine that serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.

Cadmium77 said...

MIssBliss said...

@Cadmium77 IF you think Donald Trump wrote that statement, or even cares one iota about human trafficking, you are terribly naive. Trump cares only about Trump- nothing more. He would traffic Ivanka to save his own ass. Well, maybe not Ivanka, but definitely Don Jr.

plot said...


"you that pretends to have information that you are unable to share. "

Where have I pretended anything of the sort? I've given my reasons for thinking that Nader is protected and his location is well known and he is probably in and out of the country regularly. If it's not good enough for you, I'm sorry. I'd love to know why not, but then attacking me does not help in that regard, does it. Hence -


"She is one of the saddest, loneliest and intense virtual characters I have ever have the displeasure to 'meet', online and I for one prefer to ignore her now"

You can't stay away can you baby. Promises many times has it been now?


What worked pretty well for Stormy? Not seeing your point.


Where have I argued against the pedophilia of Epstein? Do you assume I would defend him? The case against him is pretty clear, wouldn't you say? Isn't it also interesting that his top lawyers were Dershowitz and Ken Starr...yeah, that Ken Starr? The same Ken Starr that was the Special Investigator against Clinton. The same Ken Starr who was fired from the presidency of Baylor University for covering up and mishandling sexual assault cases.

Now, I'm not one to play your games of Find a Pedo for Big Wins, but seriously, you don't think there is a bias in your Super Detective entertainment practices?

It seems to me the real work of investigating pedos is simply too boring. One MUST have the bells and chimes of a slot machine attached for big thrills! Wild chills!

No one cares about pedos by us!!!!!! Spin the Wheel! Make a million!

If you want to speak of Big Donny's proclamation, what exactly has it accomplished? Escorts can no longer advertise on the Internet. Wow. Ain't that important. Sends them right back to pimps, too!

What money is Donny using to back this "new" initiative of his, which looks an awful lot like Obama's creation of the FBI task force in 2009, doesn't it?

Oh those Trumps! They copy Michelle's speeches, Obama's pamphlets on bullying, and now legislation. Gosh, they might be envious or lazy or something.

longtimereader said...

Schneiderisnext - Thanks for all your hard work on this topic,it's been every educational and unnerving.

GeeWallyThatWouldBeWrong said...


Serving 13 months, segregated in a vacant wing of the county stockade, Epstein was let out on work release six days a week for up to 16 hours a day.

GeeWallyThatWouldBeWrong said...


Nader is singing but not to Mueller.

Do a little homework on a prosecutor named John Huber.

plot said...


Who do you think Nader is singing to then? Mueller gave him the deal.

I just looked up John W. Huber (thanks for the name, put it in a file) and he seems to have nothing to do with Nader that I can tell. He was appointed by Sessions to do (another fucking) investigation into The Clinton Foundation and the surveillance of Carter Page (a stupid fellow who spied for Vlad), for which he came up wanting.

Other than that, what is your surmise here?

Nutmeg said...

If you’re a lawyer, aren’t you a Mandated Reporter? I do not know how you can continue to post things you know that are true that involve children. Common decency and humanity also tells me that you should be reporting any instances of child abuse, neglect, sexual abuse to CPS of the state or country. It sounds like you know for sure but not reporting it.

plot said...


It's because they all know, in their heart of hearts, that they don't really care about victims of child abuse. Oh they fill themselves up with the excuse that "The System is Corrupt" nonsense that Gabe Hoffman feeds them. But at the end of the day, they are playing their version of a video game. Where the game stops is at actual involvement, real action in the real world, that might benefit others.

That proves to my satisfaction that in the tiniest, most honest, part of their souls, they are aware this is all bullshit.

Unknown said...

Some proof above for the mental disorder afflicting the poor thing: she actually believes I am talking TO her, rather than me talking to others, about her insanity in a detached and purely clinic manner - ignoring her completely.
Alternate reality right there, like I said.

AkhaldanSolo said...

Explosive New Revelation: Mueller Witness and Pedophile George Nader SNITCHES on EPSTEIN and NXIVM

Geelire, can I find you on Twitter? Can you find me and message me?

plot said...


" she actually believes I am talking TO her, rather than me talking to others"

But pumpkin, no one else is responding to you!

Come on, admit it. You're in love.

plot said...


Oh it's on VOAT!!!!

It has to be twue!!!!

AkhaldanSolo said...

plot said...

yeah, yeah plot said...

you seem to wobble back and forth on these conspiracies like you are two diametrically opposed people. Are you ok and on board with anything?

calm down brah...

plot said...

What do you consider me wobbly on?

Dusty Fairy said...

These blinds scare me so much. I’m petrified.

Itttt said...

plot (plät)


a plan made in secret by a group of people to do something illegal or harmful.
"there's a plot to overthrow the government", "a plot by a pedophile ring"
synonyms: conspiracy, intrigue, secret plan; machinations
"a plot to overthrow him"


secretly make plans to carry out (an illegal or harmful action).
"the two men are serving sentences for plotting a bomb campaign"
synonyms: plan, scheme, arrange, organize, hatch, concoct, devise, dream up

Dannette said...

Thanks @Schneiderisnext and @Mary Lamb you are appreciated

Southern Man said...

There are only two possibilities on Plot i can see.

Either she is the most naive, idealistic, over 'educated' soft liberal soccer mom in the country.
Or she is on the payroll of some very nasty folks.

How else can you explain the constant defense and deflection on behalf of the absolute worst of the worst?

plot said...


Where have I defended any of your worst of the worst?

Schneiderisnext said...


I have Indeed!

Y'all do great work, I believe I first found Y'all researching "the church" trafficking ring in AZ.

Keep it up. I'm sure many more lurkers like me exist. Only reason I'm not on voat is privacy preferences.

Mary Lamb said...

@Remie Ross
I don't slurp up anything from anyone, least of all a prolific liar.

Schneiderisnext said...

@designace001 you rock


Raniere's father was Bronfman's Ad Executive.

"“My son, a cult leader,” James Raniere said. “It’s just not so.” The elder Mr. Raniere is a retired advertising executive who talks with a Brooklyn accent. He responded to my inquiries, he said, primarily to defend his deceased wife, Vera. Many in the NXIVM community believe that Keith Raniere’s mother was an abusive alcoholic, and this, James contends, could not be farther from the truth. “She was the best mother I’ve ever come across,” he said. Keith’s first five years were spent in Brooklyn before the family moved to Rockland County for better public schools. By coincidence, James handled his agency’s Seagram’s account and said he knew Edgar Bronfman Sr. professionally during the 1970s. He is now remarried and settled in Easthampton."

I'm beginning to think This is an intergenerational human trafficking business.

The Bronfman's family business (before liquor) was hotels and prostitutes. That family has all kinds of fucked up skeletons.

Either the kids of business partners (bronfman sr. & raniere sr.) got into the family business, or they got cocky and tried to start it up themselves.

Schneiderisnext said...

This is how @PLOT defends pedophiles, the worst of the worst:

"BTW do we know if the child porn was Nader's? Or was he transporting it for someone?"

Who is convicted pedophile George Nader?

Nader was convicted by Prague's Municipal Court of 10 cases of sexually abusing minors and sentenced to a one-year prison term in May 2003, said Marketa Puci, the court spokeswoman. She said the crimes occurred between 1999 and 2002.

Nader was separately accused in Washington, D.C., of child pornography infractions in 1985, but those charges were later dropped. A criminal docket sheet obtained by the AP shows the same birthdate for Nader.

Puci, the court spokeswoman, said Nader was convicted of 'moral corruption of minors, sexual abuse and impairing morals,' after abusing underage boys.

In one case, Nader requested oral sex from a 14-year-old in a room at the Hilton Hotel in Prague, Puci said.

After the boy refused, Nader masturbated in front of the boy and paid him 2,000 koruna - worth about $100 today, she said.

The charges in 1985 were dropped due a technicality, not because he was found innocent. was known that Nader faced a....charge in federal court in Washington in 1985 involving allegations of importing from the Netherlands magazines depicting nude boys. A judge dismissed those charges after ruling that the search warrant issued for Nader’s home was invalid.

The 1985 case stemmed from a shipment Nader received of film and various magazines that authorities said depicted “pre and post pubescent boys” engaged in sexual acts. Some of the magazine titles listed in court papers are so blunt as to leave little doubt they involved underage children.

A search warrant also produced evidence that Nader had “corresponded with several young boys and saved their letters,” prosecutors wrote.

And he was convicted in 1991, for possessing child pornography:

Nader received a six-month sentence from a federal court in Northern Virginia in 1991 on a felony charge of transporting sexually explicit materials in foreign commerce, according to the newly released records and to prison records POLITICO obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.

U.S. District Court Judge Claude Hilton also imposed a $2,000 fine on Nader, the records show.

The 1991 indictment came after customs inspectors at Dulles International Airport found two sexually explicit videotapes in Nader’s luggage as he arrived on a Lufthansa flight from Germany. A pediatrician consulted by the government said the boys in the videos were about 13 or 14 years old.

designace001 said...

Feeling is mutual Scchneiderisnext, I'm moving this comment by Velora from Kill the Killer's thread. Connections are everything.
Velora said...
Adding a few notes from a thread or two I pulled that may or may not be important. Regardless, it's interesting.

The Clinton's and Bronfman's have been close for a long time.
The Clinton’s association with Jeff Bezos and Amazon flows through Chelsea’s fellow IAC/Interactivecorp director Edgar M. Bronfman, Jr.—a.k.a. Boy Bronfman.

Bill Clinton had an affair in 2002 with Lisa Belzberg, who was married to Matthew Bronfman, the brother of C & S Bronfman.

I wonder if the sisters found out about anything Libya related in daddy's emails related to the US sponsored coup, and partnered with Richard Griffiths in a strategic move to place Igtet. Griffiths lobbied on behlaf of the National Transitional Council of Libya WITH Igtet to be recognized as the ruling party, and shortly after, partnered up for AmCham. Then this happens:

“Our mission is to support the development of trade and economic ties between Libya and the United States,” Richard Griffiths, AmCham president, said in the news release. “We believe that by adding this process to our membership, we are setting the very highest standards in relation to anti-bribery and third party due diligence.”

AmCham, which is an affiliate of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, was created in 2011 following the collapse of Col. Gadhafi’s fall. Such groups were not allowed under Gadhafi. The group has drawn multinational companies (all AmCham members) include Raytheon, Textron, Beechcraft, Mammut Corporation, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Cessna, Bell Helicopter, Cummins Inc., OshKosh Corporation, Clyde and Co LLP, Ideal Innovations, Sikorsky, Africair, MAG Defense, Navistar Defense, DAI, AMS Management Services, Caterpillar, Askari, Fluet Huber and Hoang, Track24, and Radisson Blu.

Mr. Griffiths also claims to have given a memorial in Tripoli, Libya for Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the fallen US Embassy workers killed on September 11, 2012

There's a lot more to dig up, too. As an aside, Griffiths works for the same mega law firm (Squire Patton Boggs) that had a "strategic alliance" with Cohen. The FBI raid was actually at their NY office, where Michael Cohen was using an executive office.

T. W. said...


Thank you for your reply!

T. W. said...


Thank you.


Any evidence for your statements?

bianca said...

Convicted sex-trafficker and Trump-pal Epstein literally ran an underage brothel out of Trump's Mar-a-Lago Resort--a place he frequents/ed regularly but knew of no nefarious activities. So, he was either lying or his head was too far up his butt to notice. Either way it does not make me optimistic about his ability take down anyone.


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