Thursday, March 15, 2018

Today's Blind Items - The Showrunner From Hell

This showrunner/creator had one big hit but it allowed him to create some pilots and at least one middling hit. At least one death I attribute to him. He cast her when she had just turned 13 or 14. She talked about him when she was using drugs but never when she was sober. She says that when he walked in for the casting for the soon to be hit network show that he asked her if she wanted the part. She said yes. He then told her lots of other girls wanted the part. He then coerced her into undressing saying that all the other girls had and she didn't have to but she wouldn't get the job. This ended up with her being sexually assaulted by him. She says he did so over 100 times during the run of the show.

She talked about how he took her with him when he was casting a show that didn't even last a season. One person cast in the show was a woman in her early 20's who has her own slate of horror stories about things that have happened to her. Anyway, she was told if she wanted the job she had to sleep with the then 14 year old girl while our showrunner watched. She did it. She was so disgusted by that and what happened to her a couple years later when she was a guest star on a very hit network show and raped by at the time an A list mostly television actor who in the past year has been accused of it again and a guest star on another very hit network show and raped by at the time an A- list mostly television actor on the show who has also been accused of similar behavior by other women that she left the business.

Going back to our teen, she then became the "older woman" so to speak when the showrunner took her along on the casting for a middling network show. The showrunner made our teen have sex with a girl who was maybe seven or eight at the time. Our teen doesn't know if the showrunner ever had sex with the girl and she isn't talking or hasn't yet. She left the business right after appearing on a show which was created solely for the purpose of casting as many children as possible in one show for adults to molest and that they did for years. That is another blind though.

As for our teen? She got pregnant by the showrunner and was fired for it. She was never allowed to reveal to her child who his real dad was. 

97 comments:

NateInSoCal said...

Speechless.

Mr. Cellophane said...

I really hope this blind is BS.

sandybrook said...

Dana Plato seems to have started Different Strokes when she was 14.

Sara, Making It Work said...

The last show sounds like Kids Incorporate or Rocky Road. Maybe we can work backwards from there.

Robynsing said...

Andrew Kreisberg

ZsaZsa58 said...

Hunter Tylo Melrose Place

DonnaMarie said...

April Lerman, fired from the first season of Charles in Charge? One of her last projects was a teen show called Parker Lewis Cant Lose.

trinity weiss said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
trinity said...


Its not diffrent strokes, one creator didnt have any other shows with kids and the other produced cosby which was hardly middling

Sara, Making It Work said...

Bernie Kukoff is credited as a "creator" of Diffrent Strokes. Only other show he's credited with creating is Rags to Riches which had tons of young girls.
And IIRC Dana Plato was fired for getting pregnant.

Great guess, @Sandybrook!

NE peanut gallery said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Krab said...

"Made" our teen have sex with a 7 year old girl? I would have walked away.

Dusty Fairy said...

Horrible story. Sounds familiar, though...

Chris P said...

Omg sickening

Sara, Making It Work said...

Oh, Kukoff also created Thea, a middling show with kids. He was only a writer on Cosby, not creator.

Dusty Fairy said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
trinity said...

I like this guess. She also guested on growing pains and the co creator of charles in charge was michael jacobs who has done a ton of middling kids shows including a pilot with brittany Murphy in 91

Brayson87 said...

+1 Sandybrook, +1 Sara, it fits the best so far.

Cray-Z said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Cray-Z said...

"Tyler Lambert once aspired to follow his famous mother, "Diff'rent Strokes" actress Dana Plato, into show business. Instead, like her, he took a detour into drugs and eventual suicide."

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/dana-platos-son-tyler-lambert-commits-suicide-mom/story?id=10629167

kiki71 said...

Creator and Showrunner are not the same thing though. A creator can just get a credit. A show runner legit is on set overseeing the writing staff. Dana Plato DID die so we have to find someone you can credit with at least one death according to the blind.

pkelly491 said...

Dana Plato - Dead Actress
Showrunner - Bernie Kukoff
1st Show - Diffrent Strokes
2nd Show - Rags to Riches
8 YO Girl - Heidi Ziegler
Show created solely for the purpose of casting as many children as possible: Just the Ten of Us

totaji said...

Did Dana have a baby with an unknown father?

Scarlett said...

Jamie Lynne Spears? She got pregnant super young on her show and everyone thought it could be that shady Nic producer dude's baby but she said it was that other guys. She hasn't done anything since that show that I'm aware of.

pkelly491 said...

Actually, Drexell's Class was actually the last show that Ziegler did. Another one with a whole handful of kids.

AllNightHours said...

This is so tragic and awful. What a bunch of sick fuqs the industry has. My gut says Jaime Lynn Spears & Dan Schneider... I can’t remember the name of the show exactly, but it had “Zoey...” in the title.

joshg g said...

If i had a ton of money, i'd vigilante these people.

pkelly491 said...

Not Schneider, he's had multiple hit show: All That, Zoey 101, Drake & Josh, iCarly etc.

DonnaMarie said...

It cant be Plato "She left the business right after appearing on a show which was created solely for the purpose of casting as many children as possible in one show for adults to molest and that they did for years"
according to IMDB she did plenty of B-movies before she died.

Sticking with April Lerman. And piggybacking on trinity's guess of producer Michael Jacobs- associated death Brittany Murphy.

Sara, Making It Work said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Sara, Making It Work said...

@Donna, it was the 7yr old that left after starring on a show created for molesting.

Shawn McGuire said...

Looks like Kreisbergs career is already over after being called out by over a dozen girls and a few boys. So it wouldn’t be much of a blind if it was him.

Sophia said...

Major key here - "who HIS real dad was". The child of the teen is/was a male. This fits for Dana Plato

DonnaMarie said...

@Sarah-ok-I rushed through that part cause it made me sick!

So I like my guess with your guess-although Plato could work.

Guesser said...

@Donnamarie,it is the eight year old that didn't work again, and Dana is the 14year old that was fired when she later became pregnant. She was never able to tell her son who his father was because she was dead. He may never have known as he died by suicide herself. It is well known she was harassed by people calling into Howard Stern's show the day before she died. Howard did defend her,but I'm sure he knows it could have been handled better.

GoogleSleuth said...

I think this goes back to the Rocky Road blind. If we assume his sources are connected (or even the same person), it may be easier to work backwards from there. Wasn’t it assumed that Devin Odessa was one of his subjects/sources? Maybe this person was connected to her. I’m not saying it’s necessarily her, but maybe it’s someone who ran in the same circles or was connected through work...

Just my two cents 🤷‍♀️

nicksauntie said...

I don't know who this is, but I just can't understand why fame would be so important to someone that they would do these things. I don't mean the kids...they don't fully understand. I mean the adult women who did these things...can this really be true??

Evonne said...

"Our teen doesn't know if the showrunner ever had sex with the girl"

Hmm...can't be Plato, she's deceased and this is written present tense.

SDaly said...

"Our teen doesn't know if the showrunner ever had sex with the girl and she isn't talking or hasn't yet."

This makes it sound like the "teen" is alive, and if so, it can't be Plato.

Sara, Making It Work said...

Kukoff was also a writer and producer of those shows. But Strokes, Rags, Thea he was creator as well.
I'm not sure who the 7/8 yo is, since it appears to have happened on a middling show (ie not Rags, that's the one that didn't last a season). Nobody on Thea seems to fit, but maybe it was an uncredited guest bit, or a different show he was affiliated witb.

Sara, Making It Work said...

@SDaly, Evonne

Chalk that up to Enty's bad editing and grammar. The teen was already referenced in the first paragraph as having died.

My.answer.is.xyz said...

My guess is Melinda Naud for the 20 something

Jen Ty said...

I hate to be judgy but how many rapes does it take someone to realize they need help, they need to get out of the business, they need to report these creeps to the police so it does not happen to other girls. By the 4th rape I am losing my empathy.

Guesser said...

This blind has some of the worst grammar and run on sentences ever, even for Enty. He goes back and forth with the past tense and current tense in the same sentence. That is why some here think the teen is alive. I think he meant she didn't tell anyone if she knew the seven year old was abused later,and she never went public.

kiki71 said...

If it is Plato he has more than one death on his conscience since HIS son by Dana committed suicide as well. Tragic. I am eager to hear about Joss Whedon and his casting couch. Know first hand ala a run in he was not having affairs but pulling that 'you do something for me' crap. Will stories break? He was the top guess for a blind about exiting his latest movie because of lingering allegations.

Lonely Bastard said...

If fat Kim in North Kores actually managed to lob a small nuclear missile at the US and it hit Hollywood, these days would it really be worth having a retaliatory strike? I mean, surely a sternly worded letter would suffice. If that. There are cess pits with life that has more decency than that place.

SteveD said...

If Just the 10 of us factors in somehow, remember that Jamie Lunar starred on that show and was recently in the news for blowing a 14 year old boy.

hothotheat said...

They use coersion. To the rapist this is permission from the victim.

Chase said...

+1 Lonely Bastard

Tricia13 said...

Sandybrook nailed it.....

mercyprosperity said...

Sounds like Dana. Even as a kid, I knew something was happening to Dana when I would watch Diffrent Strokes. Sad eyes on that girl.
Both Dana and Erin Moran stay on my heart, all the time. Never forgotten. ++

Amanda said...

I don't really have any quesses, but I think it's worth pointing out that some of this (guest starring roles, multiple rapes and quitting the business) applies to the 20 something woman from the less than a full season show. After writing a whole paragraph it enty then writes "back to the teen" implying the things above happened to someone else.

"One person cast in the show was a woman in her early 20's who has her own slate of horror stories about things that have happened to her. Anyway, she was told if she wanted the job she had to sleep with the then 14 year old girl while our showrunner watched. She did it. She was so disgusted by that and what happened to her a couple years later when she was a guest star on a very hit network show and raped by at the time an A list mostly television actor who in the past year has been accused of it again and a guest star on another very hit network show and raped by at the time an A- list mostly television actor on the show who has also been accused of similar behavior by other women that she left the business.

Going back to our teen..."

atoukzug said...

This reads like it might be more of a setup for the coming BI. Getting a little backstory to put the next one on perspective.

My.answer.is.xyz said...

Melinda Naud?

frogger said...

Yes, I think Melinda Naud for the 20 year-old as well.

frogger said...

Melinda Naud was also on Happy Days so Scott Baio as one of the rapists.

Mem said...

20-something = Melinda Naud
at the time A list mostly TV actor = Tom Wopat (The Dukes Of Hazzard)
at the time A- list mostly TV actor = Scott Baio

Amanda said...

Yep! Melinda Naud works

Dusty Fairy said...

This Melinda Naud article is interesting, regarding suing for paternity. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailynews.com/2016/01/02/paternity-suit-against-actor-wayne-rogers-to-continue-despite-his-death/amp/

Han Niam said...

@Cray That entire article is a nightmare. And it only gets worse knowing what all was still to come when it was published.

I can’t help but wonder if kiddo found out the real story behind his birth from the rumor mill and that was his trigger.

T. W. said...

@Sara, Making It Work. - Yes, those blinds were from January I think. The way the one about Kids Incorporated was written made the guess easy but I think a few people guessed other shows. The comments section for that blind was both interesting & sad.

Oh!! There was another one about a show from TBS back in the eighties. I don't know the name of it, we had cable at sporadic intervals when I was growing up.

Mem said...

"She left the business right after appearing on a show which was created solely for the purpose of casting as many children as possible in one show for adults to molest and that they did for years. That is another blind though."

This can only be Kids Incorporated, referencing the other blind(s). Drexell's Class didn't last "years". I don't know if Heidi Ziegler was ever on Kids Incorporated and it's just not mentioned on imdb, or if the 8 year old is someone different.

T. W. said...

@pkelly491 - Dana wasn't on Rags to Riches. Was she initially hired then fired before production?

T. W. said...

@Jen Ty - sexually abused children believe this is normal. It is also possible the victim was being abused at home and on the set. Some of them are tortured so of course they will keep silent in order to live.

Sara, Making It Work said...

I deleted an earlier guess about the 20-something actress. I had the timeline wrong.
Dana Plato
Bernie Kukoff
Melinda Naud (great guess folks)

The 7/8 year old would likely have been from Detective School, Tucker's Witch or TJ Hooker.

Heidi Ziegler doesn't work for this particular blind, even though she worked with him and I'm sure has lots of stories. Timeline doesn't add up.

An Edwards said...

I am so very tired & disgusted reading about these m-effing perverts. Enty, reveal the fuckers that are committing these atrocities, or cease & desist from posting every day. Pick one day to focus on the trash please. Thanks bub. Love & bacon❤

atoukzug said...

@Sarah TJ Hooker? What's the linkage there?

Amanda said...

Jenny Beck was on TJ hooker and then went on to a 3 season show called Guns of Paradise about an uncle raising his sisters kids....

Amanda said...

Meant to add that she looks to have been about 8 or 9 on when on TJ

Southern Man said...

It could be *interesting if some of these guys started showing up hanging from overpasses on the 405...

atoukzug said...

Not as much for the older teens, but for the 8 year old. Where the hell were the parents?

Sara, Making It Work said...

@atoukzug
He worked on a couple episodes of TJ Hooker but it doesn't fit.

I think the 7/8 yr old is TANYA FENMORE, who guest starred on Tucker's Witch, where Kukoff was a regular producer.
She did a lot of 80s shows, the molesty one was probably The Torkelsons.

Imdb doesn't have an age for her, but there's a picture of her with Staci Keanan and they look roughly the same age. So it fits.

atoukzug said...

The way the molested kids moved around between projects shows a larger pattern of a referral network that swapped the kids around between abusers like trading cards.

Seriously, this screams RICO on so many levels. Not only the people who were involved, but those who knew and looked the other way or facilitated the practice.

And shame on people like the Academy for pretending it's not happening. But then again, how many awards would they have to rescind?

Deborah Frueh said...

14 yo’s who are victims of molestation cannot make decisions in any reliable way.

totaji said...

It’s a shame most of these monsters have one foot in the grave. The younger ones, like Feldman, Baio and Sheen are most likely victims themselves.

totaji said...

This BI seems to be Plato, but what’s confusing is that her son took the name of her husband Lambert. If the kid’s father was a producer, wouldn’t she have given him her name Plato. Is the birth certificate public record?

Sara, Making It Work said...

+1000 @atoukzug

That's exactly how it works! Seems pretty clear based on different blinds, that they pass around the kids who put up with it.
And that recent blind about tfe awards shows molesters.... I think any kid with a Young Artist Award probably had to be molested to get it. These people are sick.

mercyprosperity said...

Let's stop rationalizing, shall we?

"This actor went thru the same as a child." Do you repeat everything that happened to you as a child, or Do You Have A Choice???

If something happens to victimize you, there's a choice. Break the cycle, or continue.

There are young women in the industry now, who are clearly afraid to speak up. As long as that continues, the cycle will continue.

Our so called 'family TV' today, is "Fuller House".... with Jodie Sweetin in a bunny leotard, making devil horns on her head; and lots and lots of pizza.

When are we going to break the cycle?

~~~

1962rocketgoldstar said...

"Our teen doesn't know if the showrunner ever had sex with the girl and she isn't talking or hasn't yet." This implies she's still alive.

Kay said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Han Niam said...

The article I read said she was with Lambert at the time she got pregnant.

nicksauntie said...

Public record doesn't nessesarily equal truth!!!

nicksauntie said...

Can't help but agree 100%

Mischief Girl said...

I'm so angry reading this. Beyond sick, if true. Beyond sick, if made up in someone's imagination. And for God's sake, learn to use punctuation! These enterns need to learn to write.

Observant One said...

+1000, Southern Man!

Sd Auntie said...

It was,a big deal when Dana married Manny Lambert and was pregnant. Weekly stories about her and her life in the National Enquirer and then her mom died.
She left her husband for that dirt tag druggie. I was listening to Stern whenthe ruthless calls began. He really should have controlled the calls better and been more emphatic . I did not know her son died! How sad! Good guess Sandy b!

Sd Auntie said...

Whoever the young victim was should step forward with massive lawsuit. He could be in SE Asia doing the same to innocent young souls

ardleighstreet said...

I'm thinking the TV show just made for molesting kids was more the ABC Afterschool Special or CBS Schoolbreak Special.

Cran Grape said...

I feel for these people I really do and I believe every single molestation, rape, murder, cover up story.

Wtf type of Stolk-Holmesque shit is Hollywood???

I think the only reason Harvey went down is because he crossed the wrong person and then was set up because whoever did it knew what would come out after the floodgates were opened.

Court b said...

It's not on the victims. It's on the people/adults who know, and do nothing. There's always someone who knows, always. And it's on us, for being adults, who day how awful all of this is, but do nothing. If only all the prolifers, we're as against pedophilia, as they are about abortion. If they protested outside of the homes and jobs of pedos. If they supported tough on pedo polititions. They could make such a difference. That crazy crowd is driven!

Brayson87 said...

@ardleigh, ugh, those shows probably sound like menu items to the pedos.

jarid gibbs said...

This!

A. Dudley Johnson, Jr. said...

I worked on Diff'rent Strokes from day one until the end. Problem with this story is that Bernie Kukoff only created the show and never worked on it. So I don't see how he could have done that "100 times" to Dana. He wasn't there on set. Unless this happened on her free time, but... c'mon.

gauloise said...

It says: She left the business right after appearing on a show which was created solely for the purpose of casting as many children as possible in one show for adults to molest and that they did for years. (I dont know why but Saved to the Bell pops into my mind for that show)

The problem is Dana Plato didnt appear on any tv series after diffrent strokes.

s dean said...

@court b It's up to the victims to speak. They have the facts, anything else is hearsay

Yuk Nassty said...

First thing I thought of

Most Incredibly said...

I think its a,way for Netflix to become the New hollywood..driving out those who...charge studios extensive over head...

Advertisement

Popular Posts from the last 30 days