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94 comments:
I hope she gets every penny
If she had to be 'rescued'....it wasn't consensual.
This sounds iffy to me. "She was rescued by a friend of hers." This friend not only gained entry into Sean's private suite, but single handedly held off bodyguards and the 3 men, and commandeered a rescue? Maybe in the movies...
She probably had no idea that Sean was going to have 2 other men in there to rape her. I hope she gets every penny.
No, I don't think the friend judo-chopped 3 dudes, I think they were shamed from continuing to rape this very intoxicated teen, once her friend discovered it.
An idiot groupie slut got herself stupid drunk and stoned and then went to a rapper's hotel room at 3 oclock in the morning. If she gets $5M out of this I'm gonna kill myself.
@cherry.....tehehehe. the friend is a super hero in her down time.
:^)
@Harry. can't wait for that.
the frequency that one sees the words 'wh*re' and 'sl*t' in these comments is disgusting.
why its allowed, I don't know. but it shouldn't be.
The fact is that none of us know the details of the situation.
But please, Harry Knuckles. Do what you gotta do.
@libby, the friend still had to discover that her friend was there, learn where the suite was, then gain entry, and so on. To my mind the rescue story is iffy at best and casts doubt over the whole affair. The police also determined she wasn't credible.
Sounds like he'll be experiencing something similar when he's in the clink
If a woman sells her body for sex, she is a whore. I'm not saying that is this broad, but that is how I use the word.
If you don't like stories about whores, then you are on the wrong site. From K trash to Backdoor Teen Whore and from Pam to Lilo, whores are the meat and potatos of this site. Rape/incest/molestation is the gravy.
Um, Kingston likes to have men screw women on top of his big stomach? Do they ejaculate on his face or what? This is gross. So gross and unexpected. Aargh. I shouldn't have read this before my morning coffee.
If someone is a whore or a slut, they're gonna get called out on it. I don't think that "owning your sexuality" has to mean spreading your legs for every semi-attractive stranger that walks by.
Regarding this particular post, yes, there are definitely some questions to be asked. And yeah, getting wasted and going to some rapper's hotel room at 3 in the morning is never a good idea EXACTLY for reasons like this.
These guys take advantage of starstruck girls all the time. Of course some of these girls are down for whatever, but not all of them. Some of these pretty young things think they'll meet their idol and it will be happily ever after.
What likely happened is she went to Kingston's room to earn bragging rights about being with a celebrity. She arrives and Kingston then tells her ain't no fun 'til his boys get some. She didn't know how to get herself out of the situation and went along with it.
That's disgusting on a lot of levels, but the line that was supposedly crossed is so blurred, it's hard to say what really went down.
I don't want to blame her, because I think she was a victim on some level. But once again, it illustrates how careful we have to be, and teach each other how not to allow fleeting fame to cloud our otherwise good judgment.
One point to Layna for using "blurred lines" as a rhetorical flourish!
@Barton: honestly, I wasn't trying to do that, LOL!
Where is her culpability in this story? You don't go to a hotel room at 3 am for a meet and greet without knowing what is coming next. I don't care how much vodka she consumed she is still responsible for making a bad judgement in going to a hotel room. She didn't deserve to get raped, but did she think they were going to sit around and play board games?
I agree with @Count Jerkula. There's at least one lurid rape/incest/whatever type of sex story a day. With the amount of editorializing and conjecture in just the regular posts, it's not even worth figuring out if these types are true as well.
She probably went there at 3am to watch the metor shower...right?
Hey @Sarah, how many of your idiols have you met at 3am in their hotel? Come on. Let's be honest here. She may have not wanted all three dicks, but she wanted some dick. Probably feels bad because ppl (rightfully) called her a hoe and said she was raped. Women need to cut the bullshit with this. Rape is when someone forces themselves on you in my book. Not when you have some regret a day or two later for getting gangbanged. No means No, I get that. But Yes I'll come over at 3am can't mean No as well.
@Barton...and a point to you for using the phrase, "rhetorical flourish" :)
@Sarah: the doe eyed innocents who actually think there will be a happily ever after really do need to learn the lesson somehow and be brought into reality. Not saying treating them like a jizz mop is the best way to do it, but adult, free will, able to make the decision to drink, able to make the decision to go to the room, able to consent to sex, equals fair game. If life was actually all happily ever after, then everyone would want to live it.
Also, if I am in control of a car, while drinking, and I get in an accident, I am at fault and considered to be at greater fault than when I am sober. So why is it that women, who are in control of the pussy, while drunk, are considered not to be at fault, when they make poor choices, and even less fault than when they are sober? It makes no sense.
@Single Man in Love With Love: It is called "Buyer's Remorse" when a chick sobers up and regrets the vile shit she did the night before. Some realize their part in it, taking it as a wake up call to cut back on drinking or stop doing blow, and some don't.
This is a little surprising. Typically I feel the commenters here tend to skew towards the "burn him in hell" but today many seem to be on the personal responsibility for your actions train. I like it.
If she was raped, it doesn't matter what she expected when she came to the room at 3am.
@SingleMan, it makes sense that your status has remained single. You also used the wrong form of "hoe".
I read that AFTER my coffee and I don't know which would be better after reading that.
Nah wasn't it snoop that said that. It aint no fun if the homeys can't have none.
Cops dropped the criminal case now she's going civil with it.
My fave is Kurupt's verse.
Intro:
You're back now at the jack-off hour this is DJ, Eazy Dick
On W-Balls, right now, somethin new, by Snoop Doggy Dogg
And this one goes out to the ladies, from all the guys
A big bow wow wow, cuz we gonna make it a little mystery
here tonight, this is DJ Eazy Dick, on the station that
slaps you across your fat ass, with a fat dick
Verse One: Nate Dogg
When I met you last night baby
Before you opened up your gap
I had respect for ya lady
But now I take it all back
Cause you gave me all your pussy
And ya even licked my balls
Leave your number on the cabinet
And I promise baby, I'll give ya a call
Next time I'm feelin kinda horny
You can come on over, and I'll break you off
And if you can't fuck, that day, baby
Just lay back, and open your mouth
Cause I have never
met a girl
That I love
in the whole wide world
Verse Two: Kurupt
Well, if Kurupt gave a fuck about a bitch I'd always be broke
I'd never have no motherfuckin indo to smoke
I gets loced and looney, bitch you can't Do Me
Do we like BBD, you hoochie groupie?
I have no love for hoes
That's somethin I learned in the pound
so how the fuck am I supposed
to pay this hoe, just to lay this hoe
I know the pussy's mine, I'ma fuck a couple more times
And then I'm through with it, there's nothing else to do with it
Pass it to the homie, now you hit it
Cause she ain't nuthin but a bitch to me
And y'all know, that bitches ain't shit to me
i gives a fuck, why don't y'all pay attention
Approach it with a different proposition, I'm Kurupt
Hoe you'll never be my only one, trick ass beeeitch!
Chorus: (repeat 4X)
It ain't no fun, if the homies can't have none
Verse Three: Snoop Doggy Dogg
Guess who back in the motherfuckin house
With a fat dick for your motherfuckin mouth
Hoes recognize, niggaz do too
Cuz when bitches get scandolous and pull a voodoo
What you gon do? You really don't know
So I'd advise you not to trust that hoe
Silly of me to fall in love with a bitch
Knowin damn well, I'm too caught up with my grip
Now as the sun rotates and my game grows bigger
How many bitches wanna fuck this nigga named Snoop
Doggy, I'm all the above
I'm too swift on my toes to get caught up with you hoes
But see, it ain't no fun, if my homies can't get a taste of it
Cause you know I don't love em
Verse Four: Warren G
Whoa!
Hey, now ya know, inhale, exhale with my flow
One for the money, two for the bitches
Three to get ready, and four to hit the switches
In my Chevy, six-fo' Red to be exact
With bitches on my side, and bitches on back
So back up bitch cuz i'm strugglin, so get
on your knees and then start jugglin
these motherfuckin nuts in your mouth
It's me, Warren G the nigga with the clout
Whoo!
Chorus
I'm not going to get mad and argue with all the @s. Girls are responsible for making good decisions, but men are too. Rape happens and drugs and alcohol are often part of the equation.
@Empress of Socks, I think people are getting wise to the new Enty's 'women are automatically victims if they say so because men are pigs' BS, when the reality is there are more than enough behavior challenged, lying individuals of both genders to go around.
Isn't this the dumbass who knocked himself into a coma on a jet ski a couple of years ago? If this is true, he should have stayed in a fucking coma.
yes, the woman was stupid as hell, but to be raped by 3 men is just horrific.
I do not like the fact that women can just sy they were drunk and all is forgiven. I always ask my boss who was a sex educator if its possible for the rapist to claim he was drunk as well. But apparently they cant do that. So a girl cant consent cause shes drunk but if the person thats also drunk with her makes a bad decision, its their fault not hers. I think that is absolute bullshit.
Even if she went to the room to have sex with Kingston, that didn't mean she wanted what actually happened to her.
Are you fucking kidding me, Kels?
Someone called her a garden tool? How sad. . . .
@pip: I think what kels may be trying to say (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) is that a victim can say "I know I seemed ok with it at the time, but I was drunk and am therefore not accountable" while someone who is the pursuer can't say "I know I did that at the time, but I was drunk and therefore not accountable"
It has to be a viable excuse either way for it to be fair
This is exactly what I meant.
Victim myself. No I am not kidding.
Empress: Nail on the head.
If being liquored up absolves you of responsibility of the choices you make, then I was raped by a few bar hags back in the day. They were the aggressor, I would have NEVER had sex with them sober, and they pulled a bait and switch by giving the "tired jaw" excuse 1/2 way through a BJ.
Anyone know of a good support group in central Jersey? I'm feeling dirty and alone now.
Fancy im sure once they were done with her, they could have cared less where she went. Classy!
Because non drunk person is supposed to realize person impaired and back off.
@liddy: At 3AM you assume anyone involved is sober?
This article was written verbatim from tmz's article. I would like to say that tmz has lost major credibility points with after the crack attack on lamar.
It's hate speech. Sadly the more you speak up about it the more it gets used =(
I try to read and comment before a special count comes and....well, you get the idea.
I think I got his hours almost figured out, that way I don't have to scroll on by.
I really really don't want to get into this shit but here I am ...
Do you hear yourselves? She went to his hotel room at 3am so she deserves what she got? That is the exact same thing as saying "She walked down a dark street with a short skirt on so she deserves what she got." How about instead of "don't walk down a dark street" or "don't go to a celeb's hotel room at 3am while partying" we teach people "if you find a drunk girl in your room at 3am DON'T FUCKING RAPE HER."
Come on, you know that girl told everyone she could that she was going back to party with him.
You use it so willy-nilly.
Can I say nigger if someone fits the def. as it says in the dictionary if they fit that description?
So it wasn't "Rape Rape"?
She so should've known better!
How dare she think she would have the right to get wasted and not worry about some
fat fuck fucking her!
This is the problem folks, with everything.
Skimpymist, TMZ is a complete fucking joke integrity wise, thanks to their coverage of anything and everything having to do with the KFeces. Example: they are running Odom the Moron's DUI as their lead story all day long, because that's what PMK/Seacrest wants. There are several DUI stories every week about some shit for brains athlete, actor or singer and the story is posted than forgotten. But Odom the Moron gets tagged and it might as well be baby murders at Cedar Sinai.
@chop chop: you don't run out Ito a freeway and expect to not be hit by a car
So if someone comes over in the wee hours of the morn you automaticaly deserve sex?
I just want to say that my initial comment about whores was in response to something someone posted and later deleted.
@marie-ski: It isn't hate speech, it is fact. It is a definition that isn't up for interpretation. Whether it is porn stars or street walkers, male or female, a whore is a whore.
Yes. @camcolty I know all about money grubbing botches willing to lie but at the same time there is way too much victim blaming. 7-10 shots of alcohol definitely makes you incapable of consent. This sounds legit to me. I hope she gets every penny.
Ok so, a niggers a nigger?
@marie-ski: would you be less offended by prostitute?
I'm sorry, it says meet and greet. I have a similar horror story about a girl who got set up to go to a singers room and found out that no one else in the party had been invited. She literally had to run out of there before shit got real. These set ups do happen. BUT even if she went knowing fully sex was going to happen she signed up for Sean and not his two cronies.
@marie-ski: If that is how you want to present yourself, I don't care. I am comfortable using "whore" properly.
Chloe: 7-10 shots may make one person fall down drunk and give another person a nice buzz. I know people it takes 4-5 shots of scotch just to get warmed up.
Also, don't groupies usually have to go through a roadie or security guy to get access to a performer? That is the urban legend I always heard.
Goodness, it got unpleasant in here real quick.
Oh let's hope she gets it
So saying no isnt enough, you can't drink and you can't go to hang out with people? A drunk teenager is going to go to Sean Paul's room if asked that doesn't mean he has the right to rape her. Only one person to blame for rape, the person who forces themselves on someone. Would your dad rape a girl just cos she went to hangout with him?
To be honest even if she went to have sex with him and then changed her mind or felt sick or whatever once she says no and once she's been forced to have sex ie raped then the only person to blame is him.
God it all sounds like Showgirls. And it does sound like the girl called the cops right after her friend found her, so not a couple of days later buyer's remorse thing. Who knows besides them, though? I wasn't there.
Yes the women need to learn. Ermmm no, the men need to learn no means no and having sex with someone not in a position to consent - ie passed out is rape or actually in this case don't take advantage of your position with young girls then force yourself and your friends onto them.
So you are saying in some situations it is ok to gang rape girls? So women that go out when it's dark - they asking for it too? Where does it end? Surely the most overriding factor is dont force anyone to have sex, ever?
But going to a hotel room isn't consenting to sex. Saying yes I want to have sex with you or being an equal partner who makes equal moves is. Being held by two men on top of a man kind of says she doesn't want to.
Sadly the reason so many people "blame the victim" is because of all the girls out there who cry rape for attention. There are so many of them and they should be punished for falsly accusing.
Of course no means no, but women have to start taking responsibility for their actions. Don't put yourself in dangerous situations!
So three of them held you down and forced you? You seem to be confusing drunk sex you regret with rape. She wasn't consenting to the sex at the time and just going to a hotel room is not consenting to sex.
But buying a Ferrari doesn't mean you want to speed. Christ, so if a woman says yeah ill come back for a drink with you then you and two friends can gang rape her and its somehow her fault for thinking you were a decent person and a drink means just that a drink? Or maybe you're a sick fuck that needs to learn nothing gives you the right to sex other than the other person fully consenting?! Maybe
She made a stupid decision I'm sure she regrets it but people do make stupid decisions rape is a violent crime, not about sex, about power and dehumanising the victim so really full responsibility will always lay with the perpetrator for being the sort of sick minded person that would ever think it is ok to do that. There's where your personal responsibility needs to be taken - dont force women to have sex
So you haven't been drunk and gone somewhere you shouldn't or put yourself in danger, eg walk off from your friends?
But you have got drunk and forced someone to have sex with you?
You actually think rape and going somewhere you shouldn't are comparable?
A bad decision isn't illegal
@char: First, it would help if you used @_____ so we could all tell who your comments are directed to.
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Where does it say she was held down?
Where does it say she ever said no?
How come none of the guys were CONVICTED??
How come none of the guys were even CHARGED?
Why wasn't she considered a credible witness?
She wasn't a young girl, she was a 19 year old woman.
Athletes and performers never get set up, huh?
Andre Blatche last year in Philly, cell phone pics saved his ass.
LT w/ the underage hooker.
Duke Lacrosse team.
Was it St. Johns basketball players back in the day who picked up a chick, 3 of them boned her, and she demanded $$ or she was going to cry rape. She did, but one of the kids was smart enough to record her threats on his cell phone or they would all be in jail.
I really wish I hadn't read this thread.
Rape/Incest/Molestation. Fugazi Enty loves em. Tomorrow is Saturday, but I hope they slip one between some reveals. Or even better, reveal a few.
1) took a break from CDAN, can someone explain 10 blind items? 10?!
2) w/o knowing all of the facts, I am leaning toward the position of most posters. @Char, while agreeing with the majority of what you commented, this case (without all facts) does appear to be a bit suspicious and I agree with Kels and Empress of Socks regarding the double-standard of the "I was drunk" excuse. I do think it is also telling that SPD decided not to pursue charges.
3) @Marie-ski - regarding your "nigger" argument...the definition is an offensive term used to refer to black or dark-skinned people, so just admit this is what you call us? I mean you did say it was okay to use if the shoe fits?
...yes I am being irrationally snarky and no I don't really care.
@char: I never said it gives them the right, but the fact is we don't live in some utopia where everyone does the right thing. A person who gets drink/high and ten goes to a hotel room at 3 am with people she's never met before is not taking steps to look out for themselves. When you put yourself in a very dangerous situation, don't be surprised when it turns out badly
@char: I never said it was ok to gang rape someone. I did say that people need to take responsibility for their actions and also that people shouldn't automatically assume the accuser is the good person in a case like this. I've known several people who have said they were raped or abused and they did it for personal gain, whether it was money or to get something else they wanted. I'm saying the police didn't find her credible, and so people shouldn't immediately say he's guilty and a horrible person when it looks to the professionals like this wasn't a valid complaint.
@char: and to answer your question, no, I haven't gotten drunk in an unfamiliar place or with unfamiliar people and walked off with someone I didn't know. Ever. Because that's how these things happen. If I feel the need to get sloppy drunk I do it with people I know, if I feel the need to do it in public I make sure my DD has my back. Often I'm the DD and I have often told my friends that they are not allowed to leave with people from the bar. If they want to take someone home to a place with roommates, fine, but they don't leave to a hotel with people they don't know.
We're comparing a man wanting sex to a car driving 60+ miles per hour. You don't see anything wrong with that?
Why am I getting baited by Enty 2.0???? I should know better....
Ew, the mental image of being lifted onto SK...EURGH
First of all, she was at a frigging Justin Bieber concert. This was when JB was more "wholesome" and attracted fanatic young girls.
She was only 19 and an underage drinker. IF she was told this was a meet and greet, she was lied to. I'm sure she wasn't expecting to find 3 men waiting to take advantage of her, willing or not.
Very sleazy, disturbing, frightening and demeaning.
I don't know what happened here. Honestly. But why did it take 3 years to file the lawsuit? Can you even file 3 years after the incident?
Should she have expected this? Probably. Did she deserve this? No (assuming her account is true).
No one expects to be gang raped. She was most likely three sheets to the wind. Some of these comments are just disgusting
If you put yourself in a dangerous situation, you run the risk of something terrible happening: running onto the freeway during rush hour, putting your hand in an alligator's mouth, eating bad bologna. Some bad shit can happen, even rape or murder. Be smart, not a dumbshit. That said, there are awful, creepy, criminal -type people who think because they have $$ or some kind of "power" (who the eff is Sean Kingston????), they can do whatever the f*# they want. It can be a shitty world, people. Use your BRAIN & GOOD SENSE & less shitty things can happen to you. Rape is not always able to be proven, & there's bad mofo's out there...
Weed and 9-10 shots
after midnight at a hotel room
Nudibelle: it says she got crunked up before she got the invite.
Again, comparing a sexed-up man with a car on a freeway or a hungry alligator? Really?? How about CONTROL YO DICK. Ever think of that? Not every girl is asking for it. Not every star-struck drunk girl wants to get fucked by 3 fat men at three in the morning. She wasn't asking for it. If I'm changing my flat tire by the side of the highway and some douche ass driving too fast in the right lane hits me IT'S STILL HIS MOTHERFUCKING FAULT.
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