Sunday, January 27, 2019

Blind Item #4 - Mr. X - Old Hollywood

Hollywood stars and moguls meeting and performing for dictators isn't a new thing. The first ones to do so were this acting power couple, considered to be the first of such, and cofounders of a movie studio wined and dined with Mussolini pre WWII.

Among the others:

1. The newspaper magnate and his actress mistress/possible wife dined with Hitler and Joseph Goebbels.

2. That comedy producer/mogul whose films still get played on TV had a signed picture of Mussolini in his office . He even brought two of his biggest stars who are the subject of a recent biopic for a photo op. A deal with the Cinecitta Studios, then under fascist control, eventually fell through.

3. It has been debated whether that mogul whose last name and creations you see everywhere met with Mussolini for a photo op! but most evidence points to yes, he did. But he did not support fascism, as many people want you to believe

4. This A++ list Oscar winning director, who many people forget is foreign born, met with Mussolini numerous times and had a big oil painting commissioned of Il Duce to hang on the wall of his living room. That painting mysteriously disappeared once the US entered WWII and the director went on to direct propaganda films for the US government.

5. This mogul badly wanted to meet Mussolini and Hitler, but he did get a visit at his studio from Mussolini's son Vittorio who did a photo op with the mogul and his biggest star of the studio's first decade. Vittorio was also friends with #2 and #3

65 comments:

Tricia13 said...

1)Hearst?

MDAnderson said...

1. Hearst and Marion Davies

Tricia13 said...

2) Zero Mostel?

Tricia13 said...

3) Polanski? Or Kubrick

Tricia13 said...

4) Howard Hughes?

MDAnderson said...

2. Laurel and Hardy/Hal roach

Tricia13 said...

4)Polanski or Kubrick
5)Hughes

canroadrunner said...

4 is Frank Capra

Krab said...

Polanski and Kubrick are idiotic guesses. They were WAY too young to have met with Mussolini. FFS, how stupid.

Glitter said...

#3 Disney

Me said...

Hearst
Chaplin
Fairbanks/Pickford
Hollywood. McCarthy tried to warn us. It’s why modern day Hollywood vilifies him so. Good Night & Good Luck indeed

Tink said...

Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks, first Hearst and Marion Davies second Disney,

gauloise said...

Mary Pickford and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. founded their own film studio and were def the power couple of their day.

Tink said...
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gauloise said...

Chaplin did a movie denouncing fascism in 1940, so i don't think he is the comedian

Krab said...

Hal Roach is 2.
1. is obviously Hearst/ Marion Davies.

Tricia13 said...

4 ) maybe Elia Kazan

Tricia13 said...

Well done-you did all the heavy lifting per usual:)

Krab said...

4. Frank Capra.

Tink said...

Studio was Pickfair

MDAnderson said...

Lol. What an original guess.

Tink said...

This could be Chaplin for comedian he was chasing Marion.

Tricia13 said...

Like the one below🙄

gauloise said...

To sum up from above guesses

Mary Pickford and Douglas Fairbanks power couple with studio

1) Hearst and Marion Davies
2) Hal Roach "comedy producer" (not comedian) / Laurel and Hardy (biopic released in 2018)
3) Disney
4) Frank Capra, born in Sicily
5) Hughes / RKO pictures

Guesser said...

Some people are putting the names with the wrong number.Disney for 3,@ Glitter got it first I think.

MDAnderson said...

Think Jane Russell for actress with Hughes

Flashy Vic said...

Chaplin was very left wing, so not him. A paedo, but a lefty one.
Have any of you even heard of 'The Great Dictator'?

Hearst for the first, Disney for the third.

gauloise said...

Cary Grant for the most famous actor from RKO

"the Mussolinis and Roaches entertained an audience that included Cary Grant"


RAM STtudios was the name of the Roach And Mussolini cinecitta endeavor

Its all here, and interesting read!:

https://books.google.it/books?id=5UlkCQAAQBAJ&pg=PT68&lpg=PT68&dq=vittorio+mussolini+cary+grant&source=bl&ots=Ql55OJ7dKk&sig=ACfU3U0TEUGnjTA60AQq105Fg3s01a27Aw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjgidSnvo7gAhUMC-wKHRonCDkQ6AEwC3oECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q=vittorio%20mussolini%20cary%20grant&f=false

MDAnderson said...

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Yochanan12 said...

I really wish I could dine with Adolf and Joseph

Father, bless this men

Kate k said...

House was Pickfair. Studio was United Artists.

Rosie riveter said...

Hahahaha
❤️

Tierney said...

Are you the moderator of the blind

Anna said...

Or could 5 be Ginger Rogers? It says the biggest star of the studio's 1st decade?

cheesegrater15 said...

3 is obviously Disney

Tink said...
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Anna said...

"That night, the Roaches threw a huge party to celebrate both young Mussolini’s twenty-first birthday and the Roaches’ twenty-first wedding anniversary.
The Los Angeles Times described the event as “one of the most brilliant social events of the season.” Over 300 members of the Hollywood film colony attended, including actors Dolores Del Rio, Spencer Tracy, Charles Boyer, Leo Carrillo, Gary Cooper, Bing Crosby, Douglas Fairbanks, Al Jolson, Harold Lloyd, Ginger Rogers, Gloria Swanson, Janet Gaynor, Antonio Moreno, Errol
Flynn, George Raft, and Lionel Barrymore among others.
Also present were directors, producers, and moguls Sam Wood, Cecil B. DeMille, Darryl Zannuck, Carl Laemmle Jr., Walt Disney, Ernst Lubitsch, and George Fitzmaurice."
From Waiting on Hollywood: The Tale of an Italian Bit Player
By Kirby Thomas Pringle

gauloise said...

5 is Daryl F. Zanuck / Shirley Temple / 20th c fox, shirley basically kept fox in business in their early years

here is a pic of them with vittorio

http://www.santamonicapropertyblog.com/vittorio-mussolini-shirley-temple-and-darryl-zanuck-1937/

Unknown said...



People said that Lucy and Desi had some "interesting" friends and financial backers. I tend to believe it.

It helps to know leaders. They have the money. Look at Oprah. Do you think she has 2.4 billion because she can write a paragraph?
Friends In High Places.

Tink said...

Zanuck came to my mind .

Unknown said...

Desi and Lucy

gauloise said...

4 is definitely Capra (in link below) . The oil painting of Mussolini hung in his bedroom:

Mussolini also offered Capra's studio 1 million $ for Capra to direct his life story. The studio turned it down.

https://books.google.it/books?id=DMkLpTFBEtUC&pg=PA242&lpg=PA242&dq=frank+capra+mussolini+painting&source=bl&ots=1IpcFntwCJ&sig=ACfU3U14jNfSr4RubnemURy3Glb6F0AdOg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjYhd-rz47gAhUH6qQKHa4ND3IQ6AEwFHoECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q=frank%20capra%20mussolini%20painting&f=false

gauloise said...

Lucy and Desi didnt even meet until 1940.

gauloise said...

Mary Pickford and Douglas Fairbanks met Mussolini in 1926:

https://books.google.it/books?id=YWF9DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA239&lpg=PA239&dq=1926+mary+pickford+mussolini&source=bl&ots=4-3rvciO9O&sig=ACfU3U3SxEdYH3UBvjYZybAXwAGNI7Lfdg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjRx4PO0Y7gAhURy6QKHXIbDmIQ6AEwEHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=1926%20mary%20pickford%20mussolini&f=false

Bonby Haud said...

Hah Hah hah yeah I know right what a fucking retard.

Asshole

Anonymous said...

Liberals and Globalists are determined to give the world to a few elite EU chosen ones and Muslims anyway, so by comparison Hitler and Mussolini don't seem that horrible any longer. At least Nazis and Fascists were hot men. Now I'm going to have my brains blown out by a smelly Arab with feces on his left hand.

ReallyDonna said...

Bonby: You’re going to have to try harder than “r*****” if you want to run with this crowd. That’s just a weak slur no one has used in at least 20 years.

Casting Girl said...

Polanski's mother perished in Auchwitz, as a child he was hidden and resided in the Jewish Krakow ghetto.

Count Jerkula said...

Chaplin was not a pedophile. Please dont use words that you dont know the meaning of.

AkhaldanSolo said...

Great guesses, I'll bet one of them in there was Henry Ford though.

Henry Ford: Movie Mogul? - National Archives
https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/winter/ford.pdf

There were all kinds of American businesses that actually started the Nazi War effort and along with Britain bankrolled Hitler too as a an effort to not only fleece and kill the Jews that did not support zionism, Hitler also killed the homeless, poor, black, homosexual, transexual, christains and catholics and anyone else that stood in his way.

IBM helped Hitler route his trains and keep track of the possessions of his victims with the Hollerith Tabulating Machine.

IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation
https://ibmandtheholocaust.com/

Ernst Goebbels techniques in mind control through film was transferred to Hollywood after the war along with Project Paperclip to transform the nation into the kind of people that would support ANOTHER holocaust. Quentin Tarrantino breaks it all down in his Movie Inglorious Basterds if you know how to pay attention. Ignore this information at your own peril.

https://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/?s=Bill+Cosby

Nonya Bidness said...

Was 14 the age of consent then?

Alimeywrites.... said...

Chaplin really famously denounced fascism. Have another go.

Sarton Bander said...

>Chaplin was very left wing, so not him.

Mussolini and Hitler were anti-capitalists. Fascism is extreme leftism.

Everything Within the State, Nothing Against the State, Nothing Outside the State: Mussolini

Paul Saint John said...

Even Roosevelt had nice things to say about Mussolini before the war. So what?

Mal said...

# 4 hitchcock

Astra Worthington said...

McCarthy was right 100%.

Astra Worthington said...

When you do your own research on them, and don’t listen to the mainstream hysteria, it’s amazing just how right they were on a lot of things. I pretty much operate under the assumption that if the media vilifies someone, they’re probably pretty great, if they love and revere someone, they’re probably a massive POS.

Cantara said...

1. William Randolph Hearst, Marion Davies
2. Hal Roach, Laurel and Hardy
3. Walt Disney
4. Frank Capra
5. Howard Hughes, Jean Harlow

Sarton Bander said...

> if they love and revere someone, they’re probably a massive POS.

The 0bama MSM test.

Elphin MacSkye said...

Chaplin was most definitely a pedophile - he chose and groomed preteen girls to be his lovers/wives. So did Elvis Presley, so did Jerry Lee Lewis. The type pedophile mentioned above MUST have absolute control over their women. They can't do that with women of their own age.

Count Jerkula said...

Some places, GA just raised their AOC above 14 in the 2000s, but 14 doesnt make someone a pedophile.

Count Jerkula said...

No he wasn't. He was an ephebophile. Can you please cite a source that linked Chaplin to preteens. TY.

TruthSayer said...

And now Trump, former star of "Celebrity Apprentice," plays footsies with some of the world's most murderous, including Kim Jong-un, the Saudi Crown Prince, and of course Putin. Sad that the U.S. does not value human rights anymore.

Count Jerkula said...

Lol! The US care about human rights? That's a good one. Your iphone & nikes were made by children in sweatshops, and human rights are something to get up in arms about. Ha ha ha ha ha

AngelsWithFluffyWings said...

Hedy Lamarr and Fritz Mandl

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