Thursday, August 30, 2012

Today's Blind Items - A List Racists

Apparently when organizations that are tied to Neo-Nazi causes need money you would think they would be out of luck with what is considered a very liberal Hollywood. Not so. There are at least two A list movie actors who are huge contributors to several of these organizations and who would cease to exist f not for the generosity of these A listers. Each of them has given well over $2M to the organizations. One of the organizations is basically a front for the KKK but just have a more politically correct name. Others are more of a para-military save yourself from the onslaught of minorities type organizations. One of the actors is A+ list. Only movies now, but not so back in the day. Whenever he has been forced to work with anyone of color he makes it clear there needs to be some distance between himself and that person. He has turned down several great roles simply because they would have required him to work more with people of color. He likes his projects to be lily white. He has even told his wife and kids that he will never speak to them again if they bring home anyone who is of color.


The other actor used to be A+ but has dropped to A-. Barely hanging on to A-, but he has that name recognition which keeps him artificially inflated. This actor has always said that some of his closest friends are black people, but in reality, no people of any color are friends with him. None. After they have known him for a bit, his true colors come out and they want nothing to do with him or his politics. He tries to hide it, but has trouble. The first actor is a huge donor to the para-military organizations while the A- list actor prefers the KKK type organizations that are doing everything in their power to make life miserable for what our actor calls the lower races. He also only dates people who can provide a trace of their ancestry so he knows they are "clean." Apparently about a year ago he dated someone without checking until later and found out she had some African-American blood in her. Our actor went on a three day bender.

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df2012 said...

The blind clearly states 'not liberal.' Its safe to assume that 'liberal's are Democrats. So if you are not liberal, you are most likely not a known Democrat. Now our sweet racists here don't need be card carrying Republicans, but the blind seems to exclude the known Democrat fundraisers.

So it might not be correct to look at known Republican, but it seems correct to exclude known Democrats.

Changed my bet to Chuck Norris #1 and Mel Gibson #2.

And yes - a few bad apples can give the whole party a bad name. If Republicans are so offended by the notion that some of their members might be racist, sexist or homophobe and it does by no means reflect their platform and policy, why not distance themselves clearly from those notions?

Unknown said...

Okay just one more thing. Mel is in random photos today with his girlfriend.

Jason Blue Eyes said...

Harrison was also in "The Mosquito Coast." The movie was filmed in Mozambique. Can't possible him.

Anonymous said...

Bill Clinton is a Democrat, and it was under him that the 5-year welfare cap rule was put in place.

Suggesting that Democratic voters lean toward those that pander to them, and don't look beyond themselves smacks of a 'we're better than you' attitude.

LC said...

Thank god someone said it. Jeez, you'd think someone dropped "legitimate rape" up in here with the way everyone got all worked up.

Unknown said...

Chuck Norris is A+ list and only does movies now? I'm out of touch ;)

Jason Blue Eyes said...

And Chuck Norris is NOT A+. He's C and that's being generous.

Jen14221 said...

I'm a Republican and I'm not an asshole. I think Vicky might be an asshole....

DewieTheBear said...

You know what this thread needs? A cameo by BOS to bring everyone back on the same side.
He's a uniter, not a divider, you know :))

Jason Blue Eyes said...

I'm guessing Russekll Crowe for #1. He starred as a skinhead in a movie called "Romper Stomper" before he hit big.

Unknown said...

I'm new no posting and all but, as I said earlier, I've been lurking for a while. There is a definite pattern emerging, ie last week's FFF, of a provocative poster acting out their own stuff and in effect hijacking the thread as people get worked up in response. Not judging, just saying.

Unknown said...

New to posting, i meant

DewieTheBear said...

Kind of off-topic but maybe to take things in another direction, is anyone voting in the Grantland "Sequeltology" bracket? Because somehow "Aliens" is losing to "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" in its match-up to make it to the finals as best sequel. And that is just plain wrong...

Sydney21221 said...

@Britta-Jöns -
I agree with you and refering to her as, "this Vicky person" made me laugh - I'd put it up there with Alex T's "Not now Iron Man!". Not sure if you saw his/her's comment yesterday, but if you missed it that's a shame, because it was pure gold.

@ Unknown,
This isn't the first time Vicki has offended people and her telling people to "F-off" doesn't help matters. I thought Texshan expressed her point pretty well and i don't really see how defending it constitutes as bullying.

Agent**It said...

@Dewie, LOL. Or Himmmm !

Chris said...

Of course Republicans had to show up in this comment thread and ruin it. Ugh.

JustTired said...

With all the Democratic/Republican back and forth going on, I just have one thing to say:

Gary Johnson 2012

Mom_to_Sky said...

My dad is the biggest racist bigot I know and he is a diehard democrat. I'm not on speaking terms with him, but I'm dying to know how he voted in the last election. There is no way in hell he voted for a black man whether they shared the same views or not. I really wish people would stop judging and catagorizing individuals. It makes you look bad and uneducated.

That said:
#1. Johnny Depp
#2. Mel Gibson

Gabriella Oravetz said...

@Unknown, of course not, Republicans never see their own hypocrisy.

Irishnurse said...

Ok guys these comments are woeful,

I'm Irish so I don't know a lot about the American political system, I've enough of my own numpties to worry about. So can we leave the politics?

I honestly have no guesses for A+ and A- . I wonder why anyone's hasn't exposed their arses?

Unknown said...

Whoever it is, can this please be revealed? The blind item about the actress who is WAY racist still haunts me. I personally would like to know so that I make sure that I don't support their movies. This will piss me off if this is not revealed.

AKM said...

"@ Unknown,
This isn't the first time Vicki has offended people and her telling people to "F-off" doesn't help matters. I thought Texshan expressed her point pretty well and i don't really see how defending it constitutes as bullying."

ITA. Also, as others have pointed out, Vicki tossed out the first F-bomb, so...???

I think all of this nonsense here -- and not just by Vicki, mind you -- is absurd and out of line. I'm with the folks who are tired of political bullshit hitting them in the face everywhere they turn on the internet, and like those folks, I really don't want it here. Makes me wonder, as someone else pointed out, why we don't have a moderator.

Yikes. Bikes.

And I think Mel seems logical for #2. Can't think of #1, though.

Texshan said...

Thanks, Thomas. I agree, the things you mentioned are precisely the things that really turn me off about both political parties.

Unknown, you need to go back and read the entire comment thread. Vicki was the first person to tell people to go eff themselves. And she did it several times. I was responding to her. I am not a bully. I was not the one who introduced politics into the equation. In fact, my first post on this BI was that this behavior was gross and shameful -- because it is. Vicki posts all of the time, and 99% of the time she gets a pass on what she writes because some people think she is funny. In this instance, she got called out for being ignorant and rude. I, along with some others on this board who are not raging liberals, get crapped on all of the time here. For you to turn around and accuse ME of being a bully shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. Standing up for yourself and what you believe in does not make you a bully.

Salon, all of the commonly-cited research (from the Pew Research Center, Gelman's statistical analysis, Chronicle of Philanthropy, etc.) report that conservatives tend to be "more charitable" than liberals, even taking tithing out of the equation. Most people who tithe do not regard it as charitable giving. On my tax form, I do not report my tithes as charitable donations, but I do report the money I give to various animal charities, etc. as such. Churches, in my experience, typically do not give you receipts for tithes, because they are not considered charity and are usually done anonymously.

DF2012 -- How is recounting experiences of unexpected racism "the worst kind of racism?" That's a weak argument. You have no data or logic to back that up. It's just a facile way for you to respond to something you don't have a real argument for. I agree, when one green person is rude to another green person that is just rudeness. But if one green person is rude to another green person while bringing their greenness into the equation, that is racism. You are basically saying that it is impossible for POC to be racists, and that is not only patently untrue but stupid, too. Also, the blind does NOT clearly state "not liberal." It says that these two people give money to these orgnizations despite living in Hollywood, which "is considered very liberal."

So a couple of attendees at the GOP convention were racist assholes to a camera person. That means everyone has a free reign to attack all Republicans as racists? OK, how about when black leaders call for white people to be shot, or hunted down and killed, which several of them have done recently? Does that mean that all black people can be portrayed as murdering thugs? Some democrats have actively wished for the deaths of GOP delegates. Does that mean they should all be regarded as hateful assholes?

Alex, how in the world do you equate the NRA to the KKK? Are you on drugs? They have nothing to do with each other!

Honestly, the hate, prejudice, intolerance, ingorance and smugness of some people who claim to be inclusive and loving makes me SMDH.

thisoldbroad said...

1- Ernest Borgnine.
MANY examples of his racist comments. I can see him financing the kkk as often as possible.

2- Mel Gibson.
He'll work with black people, but bad mouths them the whole time. He has nothing but hate for Danny Glover.

dizzyeggs said...

@Dewey...i have to agree with aliens being the better sequel, for me. i liked the last indy movie (i came thisclose to naming our basset hound indiana, so i am a fan, but was overruled by the children), but i have to be in the mood to rewatch. always in the mood to rewatch aliens, so maybe there are more olds voting for aliens...?

skimpymist said...

I think everyone took vicki's comment out of context. She came up with democrat cause the blind referenced liberal. I think all u democrats need to take a chill pill and swallow it with happy juice

Mom_to_Sky said...

My dad is the biggest racist bigot I know and he's a diehard democrat. I'm not on speaking terms with him, but would live to know if he voted in the last election. There's no way in hell he'd vote for a black man, even of that man shared the exact same views. Please stop catagorizing people based on political or religious views. It just makes you appear uneducated and more bigoted than the person you're talking about.

#1. Johnny Depp
#2. Mel Gibson

Worstcompanytoworkfor said...

Enty never ever reveals these.

MadMarlin69 said...

I love how everyone wants to list all of the Republican actors and figure out which one of them it is. After all, only Republicans are racist.......
Please grow up and don't buy in to the soundbites. Life will be a lot better.

Salon deWinchester said...

@texshan as I said, until someone can show me the numbers I don't believe that. You (or anyone) saying it is so doesn't make it so, no disrespect meant to you.

Barton Fink said...

I love a good political squabble. I especially love how much fire the Republicans have when they are accused of racism. Meanwhile, the Puerto Rican delegate is shouted down by the convention floor ... and delegates throw peanuts at a black woman and call her an animal ... and the anger is all at people who call Republicans racists. Wow. Not all Republicans are racists. Some are not, as it turns out. And many are.

Cornbread said...

"All we are saaayiiing...is give peace a chance..." :)

I like the Marky Mark and Will Ferrell guesses.

And I hope this is a reveal come January (assuming the Mayans are wrong). Snookie may have ushered in one of the four horsemen...

CanuckNan said...

This is a GOSSIP site. I come here to escape from the ugliness of real life, and the lose-lose situation of this country's politics. I also don't think anyone should be telling anyone else to eff-off on a GOSSIP site! Let's take things down a notch. This is to see what shenanigans the privileged are up to, and see the absurdity in it. It is my bad habit instead of drinking alone (like my mom). I want to keep it fun & light. I enjoy everyone's comments, and some people are very witty & clever. I don't want to tell people how to behave, but remember this site is dedicated to GOSSIP. Being Italian, we lose our tempers, yell or curse, and then hug it out...Don't anyone leave!!!

That LA Chick said...

Not Will Ferrell. I seriously doubt someone at a private public radio fundraiser featuring Nas and Damian Marley is a big ol' racist.

supapimp said...

I blame enty. 'nuff said

DewieTheBear said...

@dizzy, I don't know, I think Last Crusade and Aliens came out just three years apart, you wouldn't think their fans would be that far apart in age - and I do like LC (especially after that travesty, Temple of Doom). As movies, though, I can't believe anyone would vote for LC over Aliens, not simply as sequels but stand alone films. Ripley rocks!!

redronnie said...

@Babylove - you are sweet.

i said...

@ Cryscee

Have you forgotten about Philadelphia, with Denzel?

Mom_to_Sky said...

Ugh! Done this three times now. I don't usually comment, but:

My dad is the biggest racist bigot I know and he's a diehard democrat. Please stop making foolish judgements and catagorizing individuals by religion or political preference. It makes you appear uneducated and as bigoted as the people you are talking about.

skimpymist said...

Touche

Del Riser said...

I'm a conservative independent, you all have a right to your opinion. I don't think you have the right to paint an entire group of people with any of the labels some of you are throwing around.
We are individuals, even in the need to associate with a larger group that most basically serves our political beliefs does not mean that we are not humans capable of saying, doing, and being the right thing.
We've seen the pious be demonic, and the chaste be lecherous, and the good be vile.
But, I say again that I refuse to be lumped with racists. I am me.

We need to get off the political crap for awhile, it's giving me a headache.

Irishnurse said...

Ok guys, haven't posted in ages but these comments are woeful.

I have no clue about the American political system, I've enough of my own numpties here in Ireland so can we leave it at the door?

A+ haven't a clue, but there can't be that many of them?

A- could be anyone

HudsonJoe said...

I am going to throw out a counterintuitive guess for #1 Woody Harrelson. He fits early television now all film. His public politics are liberal but he is involved with the September 11th truther movement which tends to be associated with the right and racist elements. Combine that with his father's history and Woody's statements on his father's views makes for an interesting possibility.

I think Mel is to easy for #2. I believe his crews are racially mixed and certainly the last movie had numerous Native American in prominent roles.

Just as an aside Mel's public episodes of racism all seem to be associated with drinking; could they be an attempt to suicide by cop or just a beating by someone?

dizzyeggs said...

@ Dewey
ripley DOES rock...mr. eggs made me a sign for my herb garden "ripley's garden", as i always would use the 'here, here and here' thing she did. and most importantly i named a chicken ripley! she was a vicious protector.

Sandy said...

Bruce Willis for #1 or #2. Mel Gibson for #1 or #2. And, I'm sorry to say, RDJ could be #1 (he's a right winger).

Not Eastwood, because his wife is extremely ethnically mixed, and not sure about Ford's politics, although come to think of it, I don't think he's ever been a film with a person of color (except when they're villains getting killed).

Cryscee said...

@i - indeed I did. Didn't think it was really him, but he was the first to come to mind.

DewieTheBear said...

@dizzy, of course she was a vicious protector, she had a name to live up to!!! :)

Shallow Gal said...

Oh November 6, hurry up and get here.

Irishnurse said...

Trying to post, having trouble. If this works then yay

selenakyle said...

I don't give a flying fuck about this post or anything in it.

But I do care that the GOP finds it necessary to dictate what I do with MY body as a WOMAN.

The race issues in the GOP pale to me compared to their rampant SEXISM.

Tell me to fuck off if you want to.

Phillygrrl said...

Actually, the reason voter ID laws are viewed as racist is because there are 20mm people in this country who do not have ID, of whom the majority are non-white. The proposals for such laws are in play in something like 40-some odd states and all but three of the governors backing these ID laws are Republicans, by the way. And that is not meant to suggest all Republicans are racist. On the contrary, racism unfortunately transcends political affiliation. But the reality is that theres a reason why the overwhelming majority of non-whites vote Democrat, and I'd guess the main reason is because minorities feel disenfranchised by the GOP. Not a judgment, just reality.

BigMama said...

@Layna - excellent

Unknown said...

I'm 100% on the Bruce Willis train for #1. "Moonlighting" early on, no other TV I can think of other than that 1 "Friends" guest appearance, and he just strikes me as the type. I also don't think the whole "Lily White" thing means he's never worked with black or other race actors, just that he tries to avoid it as much ad he can, when he can.

Jason Blue Eyes said...

@Dewie - Hey now, Temple Of Doom is AMAZING. That movie has to be one of the best pieces of movie escapism ever made. I don't know what drugs John Williams was on he composed that movie's score but I want to try some. And oh Yes, RAIDERS in IMAX in another week!

CDAN Fan said...

You're all the best. It's a blog, we're all just here to have fun. We're all Americans, for the most part I suppose, so what's the big? Vicki just came out with an unfiltered statement, that was offensive to many aparently. Can't we all just get along? To quote the late Rodney King. No one group is all racist, all stupid, all anything. There are mixes of both. ARe there generalities? Is that even a word? Yes, and let's make it one. Let's not sink to Rush Limbaugh's level of vitriol and name calling, let's just cool it and remember that this is a blog about celebrities for crying out loud, not the u.n. This is just for fun, don't take it so seriously.

Caraface said...

I feel the need to add - full disclosure - I'm a Left-leaning registered Independent, and I will never agree with the GOP's stance on a lot of things, but it does NO GOOD to make blanket statements like "Oh Republicans ruined this thread", or imply that all Republicans are racist. Someone mentioned upthread that all this divisivness must get tiring, and it totally does. It's exhausting to hear all the rhetoric and anger in politics, both sides included. Stuff like what Vicki posted makes me cringe, because it lends credence to the idea that we're all against each other and hate each other or whatever.

Now, let's all join hands and sing All You Need is Love. This is celeb gossip, not a politics blog!

ljsmed said...

Co-sign Nutty_Flavor! Thank you for that, I was feeling a bit agitated and you said it perfectly!

AKM said...

Can't be Woody Harrelson. WHITE MEN CAN'T JUMP. And probably some other flicks with people of color whom I just can't think of at the moment.

Phillygrrl said...

I'm a dem - and I'm glad you brought up Jim Crow. LBJ was quoted after signing the civil rights amendment into law as saying he just set back the democratic party by a generation (I paraphrase, but he meant that it was the dems that fought against civil rights and therefore people would switch party affiliation). Not to mention that Lincoln was a republican who ended slavery. So we have good guys and assholes on both sides of the aisle.

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supapimp said...

College football kicks off tonite. Fight on!

AKM said...

Oh, and Woody H.'s wife is Asian, is she not?!

Jason Blue Eyes said...

Bruce Willis is going to be on Letterman tonight, Clint may be appearing at the RNC. I hope it's not either of theses guys - Bruce kicked ass in "Pulp Fiction" and Clint just makes one great movie after the other. Not thrilled about his new baseball movie - but Amy Adams is in it and I'd watch her go grocery shopping for three hours and still find it compelling. Don't give a fuck is she's stalking Jessica Alba or not.

redronnie said...

Indie or alien? Why not a X-files 3 or Sex in the City 3..I do have to admit I am beginning to hate Carrie...whine, whine, whine. Do you think there will be a Prometheus II?

Irishnurse said...

Back to the topic people! We have a thing at home 24 hours before any election or whatever shite we vote in there is a media blackout. I don't know if ye have it there but how about we put a political blackout here? Forever? Unless it's something god awful or very funny, i.e assassination and falling in flat shoes.

supapimp said...

I think i'm in love

AKM said...

Ah, love you, Cara! I wish I'd written that. I could have, right down to the "left-leaning registered Independent." ;-)

DewieTheBear said...

@Jason, you CRAYYYYYYYYYYYYYzy! Temple of Gloom is one of Spielberg's worst films. I love the score, you have me there, but the tone and the story and the children.... BLEARGHHHHHHHH!

By the way, the actor who played Short Round recently turned 41!

Phillygrrl said...

Yes, actually, there is a large portion of the minority population that does not carry govt ID, as well as a large contingent of minorities who are unbanked, ie, do not have bank accounts or credit cards.

Unknown said...

Gotta love how people here think there's so much difference between the Repubs and Dems, or that "liberal" and "conservative" mean anything anymore. Oh hay, do you want fealty to a corporate owned bureaucratic state that allows guns or allows married gays? Do you want them to bomb oil rich countries in the name of spreading Democracy and fighting Islamism (Iraq), or defending human rights against brutal dictators(Libya)? Do you want your politicians to give lip service to Christianity or to Humanism? Vote today! It really makes a difference.

Phillygrrl said...

Ha! Just wrote essentially the same thing re LBJ, etc before I read your post :)

Jason Blue Eyes said...

Ke Huy Kwan is 41? Fuck - we old.

DewieTheBear said...

@Jason, I know, right? Let's just pretend he made the film when he was twenty-six :)

janele said...

Okay people: Here is my contribution:

http://digitaljournal.com/article/326337

Anonymous hacked a Neo-Nazi site this past June, and uploaded various contents to a file-sharing site.

I'm sure someone must've found a few celebrity names in connection with them. Or not. If anyone here is willing to put aside their differences and sift through the material, please go ahead.

Anonymous said...

I think Eastwood is more Libertian than Republican, though he may have some conservative leanings. JMO, though.

If nothing else, maybe all this CDaN hoopla will encourage me to read the Robert Caro book on LBJ I bought a long time ago. It's supposed to be really good, and just the first part of 4 or 5 books. Politics stink, but history is great!

Texshan said...

Salon, I gave you three sources. There is also the Hoover Institute at Stanford, which did research on the topic.

Philly, I honestly don't think that requiring a photo ID to vote is just too much to ask. How do people get through life without having any kind of photo ID? It's crazy! It's not targeting poor people, either -- state ID cards are free, as far as I know. If people are too lazy to go get one or just refuse to do so, then that's their fault, not the state's. Requiring someone to prove who they are before casting a vote is not unreasonable.

urg8urg said...

@Vicki...don't be a partisan asshole. even more don't be an ignorant, intolerant supposed liberal.

lazyday603 said...

A big whatever to all the ideologists shouting back and forth. Now back to the blind:

Leonardo Dicaprio and Mel Gibson are the only male a-listers in Random Photos today. Looking at Leo's CV the only movie since Titanic where a black co-starred was Blood Diamond. And all Leo's scenes were with Jennifer Connally. Plus he played a racist Rhodesian exile. And he has made sympathetic two of the bigger racists of the 20th century, J Edgar Hoover and Howard Hughes. Apart from the wife & kids comment this could be him.

Jason Blue Eyes said...

Clint endorsed Romney and is rumored to be a secret speaker at the RNC tonight. Didn't like it when he told Spike Lee to "Shut his mouth" a few years ago. Apparently Spielberg sorted the feud out between the two of them.

Texshan said...

Dewie I agree. Temple of Doom is terrible. I saw it once, in the theater when it came out, and that was enough for me. Two scenes freaked me out: first, the dinner party. I couldn't handle it. To this day I won't eat Indian food. Second, the cave of bugs. I have a serious, no-joke cockroach phobia, and I almost passed out during that scene. I had to cover my eyes and hum to myself to calm down.

Agent**It said...

I, for one, will not be voting with my vagina.As precious as it is, there are more important things to consider. That is all.

DewieTheBear said...

@Layna, good reading choice - Caro's series begins with "The Path to Power," then "Means of Ascent" and "Master of the Senate." The most recent, "The Passage of Power" is the only one I haven't read.

Robert Dallek also set out to write a similar series on LBJ, but never went past two volumes: "Lone Star Rising" and "The Portrait of a President."

El Roy 13 said...

I'm gonna say, Tom Hanks for #1

El Roy 13 said...

and as for the rep/dem comments, I guess none of you ever took out the book, The History of the KKK from your local library, as it clearly states the inception of the democratic party was a front for the KKK.

lazyday603 said...

@Agent, I'm glad to hear that in case I'm the next one to enter the booth after you.

DewieTheBear said...

@Texshan, you nailed it, and I would add the "heart pulling' scene to your other two as simply un-watchable. Just gross. Everything that made Raiders so good was missing in Temple of Doom.

Unknown said...

And Leo's got a German mother so there you go, total racist (TOTALLY KIDDING)

But you're right lazyday, he is plausible except enty makes sure to mention wife and kids. He doesn't usually fudge things that much, does he?

Jason Blue Eyes said...

Actually now that I think of it Temple Of Doom can't really qualify as a better sequel then Last crusade because it actually took place a year before Raiders. Technicalities.

KatD said...

Vicki: Your comments incite hate, which is no better than being racist (the basis of which is hate). There are just as many racist liberals as there are racist conservatives. (Just ask the ultra liberals in La Jolla why they won't drive BMWs or ask the ultra liberals in Marin County live in white bread communities.) To base your assumption on sterotypes about political parties makes you look like a brainwashed ignoramus.

Seachica said...

Yay Tekshan. Frankly, this name calling and stereotyping is what is killing debate in this country. Very few people are in 100% agreement with either party. We all have varying opinions and beliefs. Just because someone is for gay rights doesn't make them a racist. Just because someone believes that the feder government is too large doesn't mean they are anti-choice. Let's stop assuming that all republicans are racist and all democrats are bleeding heart liberals.

caydian said...

@Jason, I thought Crystal Skull was the worst of all the Indy Jones movies.

DewieTheBear said...

@redronnie, just saw your reply - my mailbox is overflowing with replies to this post!!

I love SATC and have a hate-love feeling about the movies. I totally see what makes them unlikeable - and I despised seeing them on the big screen. However, I own both on DVD and love to watch them because, flaws aside (I think we can agree the "I Am Woman" karaoke scene is one of the most awful things after put on film), the friendship between the girls still rings true. Putting the series or movies on is like having girlfriends over. It's going to take more than Samantha screaming, "I have sex!" at Arab men to take that away from me :)

I haven't seen Prometheus - I've been waffling on whether or not I should - do you recommend it?

Agent**It said...

@lazy, LOL -NTW, I am voting via absentee ballot. For Bugs Bunny, as I always do .

Seachica said...

Did you really just write that a poster should "take a chill pill" and in the next paragraph ask is to be gentle? You be gentle, and I'll consider doing the same. But if you belittle posters, I will treat you in the same manner. You don't get to have it one way for you and ask others to do differently

Del Riser said...

It's just been announced that Clint Eastwood will be a guest speaker at tonight's Republican Convention.

So make of that what you will. For many of you it means he hates and despises his wife and her family. After her new show I can see why. :)

FrenchGirl said...

1:Schwarzie (his dad was yet an ex-nazi officer)
2: Mel Gibson (even if Danny Glover and Richard Donner are among his best friends)

Salon deWinchester said...

@texshan, you didn't give me anything useful. Pew does a lot of studies and the recent one was about charitable contributions tied to mobile phones. Interesting but not on topic here.

What specifically I said was, show me a credible study, conducted by an independent and unbiased third party, such study having sufficient power and covering an adequate period of time behind the statistics it uses to form its conclusions. Said study must assess per-capita, non-religious charitable donations in the form of cash, or amounts converted to a reasonable cash equivalent in the case of hours or goods donated. Then, if this assessment proves its hypotheses with a high degree of confidence and thereby demonstrates more than a nominal gap between what is contributed by Republicans and what is contributed by Democrats, consistently, then I would be persuaded.

You know, without understanding their bases, statistics can easily be misinterpreted. For example, @texshan and virtually every commenter and reader of this blog has more than the average number of ears. True fact.

Agent**It said...

@Del, my first thought was watch the daughter try to sleaze something out of this:)

Crystalrope said...

No guesses for Warren Beatty? Jack Nicholson? Kirk Douglas?

Jason Blue Eyes said...

Caydian - Oh Crystal Skull WAS the worst Indy movie. It committed movie sin - it was boring. An Indiana Jones movie should not have been boring. I remember seeing Slumdog Millionaire when it premiered in Toronto a few months later and actually said, how can a tiny movie from Mumbai be 100 times more exciting than an Indiana Jones film?

Maybe the Koch brothers paid Clint like they paid Romney $27 million to choose Ryan as his VP.

surfer said...

Just wanted to say something regarding voter ID.

Here in Canada, when we go to vote, you MUST show ID (such as a driver's license). They then cross your name off a list and hand you the ballot. If you didn't have to show ID, then anyone could conceivably go in and not only say they are you, but could vote multiple times.

So I'm having a hard time understanding why being required to produce ID is even an issue.

Robin the Mad Photographer said...

I don't know about other states, but a Massachusetts state ID (not a driver's license) is $25, which, while not a vast amount of money, isn't exactly free.

Also, it's not just minorities who may not have "proper" ID--a lot of older people don't, either. My 76-year-old non-driving mother got her very first NH state ID earlier this month, and had to jump through quite a few hoops to get it. She's been a stay-at-home wife and mother her entire adult life, and while she writes out the checks for my parents' various bills, it's my dad's name alone on the accounts; if it hadn't been for her name also being on the paperwork for their house/tax payments, she wouldn't have been allowed to get an ID, in spite of having an appropriately stamped birth certificate and my dad standing there saying "yes, this IS my wife, we've been married for 57 years." She couldn't believe how much trouble she had to go to just to get an ID in case she needed to show it when she went to vote, and was not impressed with the necessity of so doing.

(Republicans--and, unfortunately, they do seem to be the ones doing this--who push voter ID laws w/the idea that it might keep minorities away from the polls might need to be reminded that older people are also having trouble...and plenty of them are (a) lily white and (b) inclined to be more conservative and potentially vote Republican. This could potentially come back to bite them in the collective ass come November...)

Agent**It said...

F o x (afraid to spell it) announced yesterday that Clint would be speaking tonight. Just so you know. I heard it from my neighbor:)

FrenchGirl said...

not Eastwood: he worked too many times with Morgan Freeman

NB: to be republican doesn't want to say to be racist and to have acted a racist doesn't want to say to be racist

old ;ady said...

I am a Liberal. My husband of 30 yrs. was a conservative, yet on some things we agreed. I am Black/Native and he was Swedish/German. His best friend (45 yrs) is very conservative. He was also the first non family to visit after our Daughter was born and insisted that she call him "Uncle". Then after her father died (my husband) he visited her in the hospital every other day (pregnancy complications). When Izzy was born he insisted that he was now "Grandpa". The day we turned off my Daughter's Life Support he was there. He asked if he could still be "Grandpa". If my family (Liberals) and his family (Conservatives) can get along for all these years, we should be able to get along on this BLOG.

caralw said...

In some areas you have to drive 30 miles are more to get to an ID office that may be open a couple of hours once a week. Even if the ID is free, the cost of the supporting documents, time off work, and travel are barriers for many people who live in rural areas. I'm not saying it's racist or just an economic barrier, but it's a real problem and does exclude people from the political process. When an election is so tight, it could make a difference. That's why these laws are introduced and debated.

That said, I don't really know who the subject of these blinds are...

L said...

wow! another incendiary thread just in time for the weekend!!

Anonymous said...

In my state, ID cards cost the same as drivers' licenses--around $25. Robin is right, many states charge for IDs. It's not a lot of money, but still--it can be a roadblock for many.

Unknown said...

@Seachica, are you talking to me? I said both comments pretty lightheartedly. I think I made a mistake in thinking people took a lighthearted approach to gossip blogs. This is clearly really, really serious and nobody should take a chill pill, ever.

katsm0711 said...

@Texshan, I love you MORE because you're a Democrat and truly non-judgmental and open minded. I'm not even going to get into it AS A REPUBLICAN but I come from a long line of Republicans and I am so incredibly proud of my father's family of Yankees who stood up to racism back in the 1950's in New York where people still don't realize there was segregation. I have a Jackie Robinson story that would shock you.

Just please let this debate die. Anyone notice Vicki says some fucked up offensive shit and then disappears letting her minions fight the battles she started? Enough. We know we are not racists so who cares what a stranger thinks? Vote for whoever you want to vote and keep in mind that this country needs BOTH Democrats and Republicans working together equally for our country to flourish.

Enough. Now back to business. Who remembers a blind from a few months ago about a Hollywood celeb who is obsessed with collecting Nazi memorabilia and sick videos? Did that get revealed? Was the general consensus Jesse James? I wonder if that blind goes with this one?

Britta-Jöns said...

lazyday603 said...
@Agent, I'm glad to hear that in case I'm the next one to enter the booth after you.

Hahahaaahah i almost died there.

*hums All you need is love*

Sunny said...

@Ice Angel

As usual, I appreciate the balance you bring to this blog. It angers me to end when people see things as black and white (no pun intended). Things are fluid, solutions are not one-size-fits all, and there needs to be more give and take from both sides.

I can't bring myself to read all these comments, but to the person that announced they were a first time poster: It's probably not best to kick things off with "take a chill pill"

Agent**It said...

It is crazy to have over 300 million citizens and NOT HAVE VOTER ID VERIFICATION. In 2000, I somehow became a black man in prison in No Carolina and was taken off the polls. After 6 months and 31 phone calls I finally got my letter stating that my provisional vote (which I had to fight to cast)did not count. At the time,I was a registered Democrat, living in a zip code that houses a diverse population, and my maiden name was an old slave name. I'm not kidding and I get pissed thinking about it. And if you think the R's have a handle on stealing elections, ahem.. Mayor of Chicago Politics, anybody? 'tis good to be Indie in this election. F'em all.

El Roy 13 said...

I think you are all misreading the first sentence....b/c I feel it insinuates that it IS a well known, Liberal. You all just wish it were your "token" bad guy repubs.

I also guess know one here as heard of Mia Love, Condi Rice, Co Powell, the steamy Michael Steele, so enough with your "repub's hate black and brown's" rhetoric. It;s so elementary.

Different Guest said...

Not all states have polling places, mine is vote by mail. They match signatures.

We should be more worried about #1 than #2. Giving money = giving weapons to paramilitary groups and those people will have no problem turning their weapons on any one who disagrees with them for any reason. Don't forget Robespierre eventually went to the guillotine during the french Reign of Terror.

I think #2 is Mel as well.

El Roy 13 said...

**no, I meant NO one - must have been a quasi Freudian slip, because no one seems to KNOW much of anything other than mainstream propaganda.

sheesh

gr8p said...

Jeremy Irons? Interesting. It could be him. I hope it's not Mr Depp. I believe no. 2 is Mel Gibson. I hope so. White people can have him. Please keep him away from other races. You're welcome to his crazy a**. Please take him. I don't think Arnie is one of the actors. He's an a-hole but not necessarily racist. haha Could be Bruce Willis or Russell Crowe are good guesses.

Mango said...

#1 - The ghost of Bing Crosby. Bam! Done!

Agent**It said...

I think Texshan is a Libertarian. I like them:)

@ Britta-Jöns, thank you ! I said that at the top of my lungs in a restaurant last week to shut up a heated discussion. It works !!!!!

Stephy said...

Michael Clarke Duncan was in Talladega Nights with Will Ferrell--they had at least one very memorable scene together.

Ferrell's movies are pretty white, but I have a hard time believing he would give a bunch of money to the KKK.

Bubbles said...

Spacecowboy, Koreans as a people are known to speak Vietnamese dialect, they speak Korean. In other words, the people in Gran Torino were Vietnamese.

And why would Michael Douglas, a Jew, donate to Neo-Nazi groups people? That and the black woman he claimed was stalking him was actually one of his mistresses. I thought everyone knew that.

Different Guest said...

Now that I could believe Mango. Bing was an asshole.

Texshan said...

Hi, Katsm. Thanks for your kind words, but I'm not a democrat. I'm a libertarian. So basically I think BOTH major political parties are full of crap most of the time.

Re: state IDs, my grandmother never learned how to drive, either. She had a state ID, which was free at the time. There is a chart which shows how much state IDs cost here: http://dmvanswers.com/questions/419/How-much-do-state-ID-cards-cost

So my bad, they aren't free everywhere. But I still don't think requiring a photo ID to vote is outrageous. Or racist.

Just_Me said...

Jeez... Way to go Vicki for inciting your ignorant hate on the blog... Over 300 posts with 80% all about POLITICS!

I come here to escape my realites and get some shits and giggles out of this blog for the day...POLITICS is NO place for a celebrity blog..Nuff said about that....

So, ya'll have your choices wrong about this blind..

#1 Mr. Bean
#2 William Brimley

@Agent.. Thanx for the heads up.. If by chance I end up in the booth after you I'll make sure I bring my Clorox wipes....LOL

Humming ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE in my head....

Melissa said...

"But I do care that the GOP finds it necessary to dictate what I do with MY body as a WOMAN."

@selenakyle: the vast majority of the GOP couldn't care less what you do with YOUR body as a WOMAN, but want you to pay for it yourself. If you are truly a WOMAN, you don't need the government to subsidize your sex life.

Texshan said...

Salon, I don't mean to be rude, but I am not going to do your work for you. I gave you several sources. Whether you choose to investigate further is up to you. I don't know if there is any one study which is on point with all of your requirements, and frankly I don't care enough to look for it. You are determined to believe what you want to believe, and are being deliberately rigid in your requirements in an effort to cling to that belief. Fine.

Mango said...

@ as far as I know, most if not all states charge for photo ID's.

Different Guest said...

The problem isn't in requiring a photo ID, it's in obtaining the documents to get the ID. There are a lot of older poor people in rural areas that have never been out of that area who were born at home and don't have birth certificates and add the cost of obtaining the birth certificate to the cost of the ID. And if, as someone else has pointed out, their birth certificates are challenged by a clerk unless you have the time and money to go above their heads - people get discouraged.

You can't get a copy of a birth certificate unless you provide an exact match to the information requested. Meaning if you misspell a name or you were always told X was your father but Y is on the birth certificate you are out of luck.

There's a reason people can be referred to as a petty bureaucrat.
The power trip goes to their heads.

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a non a miss said...

Amen old ;ady!! This site can be a wonderful place if we just take 20 seconds to think about what we wanna say before posting. Lets be respectful of each other and not be so damn nasty. Aren't we adults here? Lets please act like it then. Telling someone to fuck off for no reason is very troubling to me. At least have the stones to stick around and take some responsibility for the hate you put out.

Ok I'm done. I had to say something or else it would bug me all night.

All you need is love!

dia papaya said...

Well said @Nutty_Flavor!!!

Work together! Love each other!

Hatred is for losers.

Agent**It said...

@DifferentGuest, Good point (as well as Robin's).We have 4 years to help them get a voter ID before the next election. That's something I would volunteer to help with. I also think the electoral college will be revised Too many voices missing, not everybody lives along the "Coasts."

Anonymous said...

With all due respect, I don't think birth control is about our sex lives. Yes, sex is involved--no duh! But, IMO, it's more about regulating unwanted pregnancies and preventing STDs. Last thing we need are more unloved children and folks catching the herp.

I didn't realize BC was this expensive. Diaphragms seem to be the cheapest route to go, based on this report:

http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/alpha-consumer/2012/03/05/the-real-cost-of-birth-control

dia papaya said...

Well said Sherry!!!

MAC said...

Geez, I just had a chance to read this blind and saw 323 comments already and thought "holy hell". I scrolled quickly to the middle of the first 200 and saw where this conversation was going and think I will just bow out now...

Sydney21221 said...

@Jason Blue Eyes and Caydian:
Hope you don't mind me jumping in on your discussion, but have to say that I agree with you guys about Crystal skull. Apart from the abysmal acting, storyline and writing what annoyed me the most was that they couldn't extend the budget to make the skull look like it was crystal. I mean that was some tacky sh-t right there. It looked like it had been created from some stripper's lucite shoes.

As my mate said at the time, "Well the best thing about that film, was the trailer for 'Kung Fu Panda'." Never has a truer word been said.

Anonymous said...

Questioning a woman's validity based on her needing assistance to prevent pregnancy--which is more expensive than BC--is disheartening. If a mother needs food stamps to feed her child, is she not truly a mother? Or just a stupid one for trying to raise the child she brought into the world--which pro lifers should applaud.

There are so many ways to look at a story. Saying who is real doesn't find solutions.

Melissa said...

I see your point Layna Day, but reliable birth control is far cheaper than a cell phone plan. Seems everyone can pay for that themselves. Grown ups make grown up decisions and pay for the important things. The insistence that anything having to do with female sexuality is simultaneously "hands off my body," but "I need government help" frustrates the crap out of me.

caydian said...

@Roxxx...yes, the skull looked like a cheap plastic knock-off. I suspect if you dropped it, it would bounce! Too many computer graphics crap in that movie. It didn't add anything to the quality of the film.

Melissa said...

I don't know if you're addressing my comment with your last comment, Layna Day. I wasn't questioning selenakyles "validity" so much as her status as an adult.

slgkrc123 said...

very pleased to see the tide is beginning to turn against the mean bully that is vicki. IMO she is very unhappy with herself which results in ridiculous celebrity slandering and rude comments to posters.

how much do you want to bet that 'Unknown' is actually vicky herself commenting- HA!

Sydney21221 said...

@ Caydian:
Yes, that's so true. I just remember apologising to my friends for having suggested we watch it. I think I might still owe them for that.

Amartel said...

No doubt there are racists in Hollywood, like there are racists everywhere else throughout society, here and abroad.

I wonder if either of these "A" list actors actually exists or if this blind is just an excuse to pretend that racists primarily inhabit the Republican party, which is a flat. out. lie. Albeit one that Hollywood and the chattering media's been working for quite some time now. Evidence to the contrary, of course. Times are changing, though. Watch and learn who the real racists are. Ask yourself, for example, why MSNBC cuts away from minority speakers at the Republican convention.

Why would they do that?

I've lived among Rs and Ds, mainly Ds. Ds are, by far, the worst racist/sexist/homophobic offenders because they think they have a free pass to say whatever they want because they've been told they're the "good people" (for voting to redistribute other peoples' money for "good intentions" projects even if nothing good ever comes of it). They're also the loudmouths who are first on line to call names and identify "hate" in people who disagree with them ideologically and threaten their comfortable status quo.

Tired of this fiction. Fed up with sneaky attacks like this. What goes around comes around.

msgirl said...

I'll just say one thing about the racism debate - while I think anyone can be racist, I do think more fall in the GOP ranks, why else the never-ending search for the Obama birth certificate?

Personally I'm conservative when it comes to finances, and liberal when it comes to social issues. I hate the way both parties have become so exaggerated, and think most people don't fit there now. We need a new party!

Anonymous said...

@Melissa: I was addressing your comment, but forgot to include your name. Sorry!

I see your point about being a true adult, but in my limited experience, many women who can't pay for BC also lose their cell phone service a lot. My guess is that they're just scrapping by and lots of things go to the wayside, depending on the month.

Then again, I'm one of the last people w/o a cell phone, so maybe I'm not the best person to talk to about them! :-D

Upside Downunder said...

Harrison Ford worked with Chewbacca who is obviously African, can't be him.

katsm0711 said...

Can u please go back to lurking? Find the first F-bomb attack.

caydian said...

Chewbacca was African? Under all that fur(ry costume), how can you tell?

FSP said...

I thought Chewbacca was Khloe Kardashian?

smash said...

I am so glad I stayed far away from this fucking train wreck.

A lot of you claiming to be republicans shouldnt get all offended. Look at the libertarian party, that is who I align myself with. Nobody bothers me. Maybe you should reevaluate her comment, a lot of current REPUBLICAN members in office are sort of racist. Libertarians? None. Live your life your way and I will live mine.

Mind your own damn business! And stay off my fucking lawn!!

Upside Downunder said...

Russel Crowe is a part-owner of the South Sydney Rabbitohs. They are essentially the rugby league equivalent of the Oakland Raiders. They also tend to be the most racially diverse team and really help develop junior players of aboriginal background, even more so after Russell got involved. Russell could give a shit about US politics.

caydian said...

Seems like the F-bomb tosser has mastered the art of the pseudonym.

Thomas said...

Republicans (and/or, for the sake of discussion, pro-life types) don't care what you do with your body, selenakyle, when you're using it responsibly. For example, if you choose to have recreational sex (as opposed to reproductive sex) while availing yourself of prophylactics, birth control pills, etc, (that you yourself pay for) then no one cares what you do with your body. It's the women who just roll the dice (with casual, unprotected sex ) and use abortion as, eh, retroactive birth control, that I have a problem with. A person's control over their own body ends when they use it (their body) irresponsibly. If someone, through laziness, negligence or just getting "caught up in the moment", winds up conceiving another human life, by their not having exercised "due diligence" beforehand they have, in essence, given up their prima facie rights to "body autonomy", and their unexercised "right" ought to, logically, devolve down to the next most interested party: the conceived human life within them. This is just my opinion, of course, but it, to me, would seem to be common sense. Nothing will ever come of my opinion, though, so you needed go accusing me of engaging in a "War on Women", as so many Dems have accused the Reps of doing. The fact is that humans are oftentimes lazy and irresponsible, and are, in many cases, enabled (if not encouraged) to be lazy and irresponsible. Much political power can be accumulated by promising/giving the voters whatever will make their lives easier and less responsibility-laden. It happens every day...

Just_Me said...

@caydian.. I know right!

I wish there was a like button on here... So many good posters but too many to name on a post....

I find it amusing that the havoc this person caused by her post has disappeared all together. I would bet money she's under a diff name here posting away.. LOL

Anonymous said...

I used to post here a lot. Loved it here. But lately, since all the Himmmm hoohaw, there's been an ugly atmosphere, many new people and many of them just waiting for a throat to jump down.

It makes me sad that you are all turning on Vicki. I know her outside of this site, and she's a warm, caring, funny person with a potty mouth. You all love her when her opinion is with the majority, but if she offends some of the more politically uptight, she gets referred to as a mean bully, and ripped to shreds by half the people posting.

I'm probably not going to post any more. I've pretty much limited myself to the "Your Turn" section, only because nobody can find fault and tear into you when you're just giving a little personal history. It's a shame, really. This used to be a place where everyone supported each other and no matter what our differences, we got along. Now it's one fight after another.

Team Vicki. Totally.

dia papaya said...

Favorite comments so far:

@cornbread: And I hope this is a reveal come January (assuming the Mayans are wrong). Snookie may have ushered in one of the four horsemen...

@Agent**It: NOT voting with her vagina!!!

****continues to hum Give Peace a Chance****

Anonymous said...

What if a woman used said due diligence, though? Say she used birth control, got pregnant anyway, and decides she's not ready to have a baby? Should she not have the option to terminate the pregnancy?

I don't like the idea of abortion as a means of BC, either. But I rather that happen than for a child who likely won't be put up for adoption and burdened with a parent/parents who didn't really want them to suffer.

The bottom line is we don't know who is being responsible or not. I wish everyone was, but they're not.

Most of us have been responsible with our bodies in some form--I eat too much and don't exercise. Does that mean I shouldn't have access to care if I get sick?

Everyone on this planet, regardless of affiliation, wants an easier life. If you don't, you're stupid or lying. And both sides have been guilty of it on all sorts of levels. It's NOT a Dem thing, no more than the GOP can claim 100% moral and social responsibility. Hogwash.

Both parties can be full of it and we all know it.

And while talking about wombs, can we talk about paychecks? Equal pay for equal work! 76 cents an hour to a dollar for Jack isn't cutting for Jane! :-D

Anonymous said...

IRRESPONSIBLE with our bodies, is what I meant, ooops!

Vicki is still posting. I saw her in other threads.

gtzisshe said...

this and the b. profane drama. loving it.

Rowan said...

I thank you Layna Day, for the educational moment. I am truly enlightened; again, thank you!

Jason Blue Eyes said...

Now leaving for the day - this thread has gone to a dark place - darker then Mina Kunis' Ashton shame.

Wish you all good thoughts tonight. For the ladies I wish you thoughts of Fassbender in his undies. Or out if that's you're thing.

For us men I wish you thoughts of Mena Suvari in tight, tight yoga pants. Or out if that's your thing.

Audrey said...

Well, Vicki once told me to get the fuck off this site...but anyhoo...

I must say, I am a political junkie and read all kinds of political blogs and the comments therein. You guys have by far been the most entertaining and enlightening. There were a number of posts that really made me think. I say, rock on! :)

smash said...

Caydian- if you are refering to me. No I am not Vicki. She is a long time poster. I have been here around a year reading and only 4 or so months posting.

This drama is crap. I have noticed the change of people jumping down long time posters necks. I didn't start posting until I saw a lot of regulars and felt comftorable. Yes, the more offensive the comment the bigger the backlash.

This went from a 140 comment thread to over 300 in a matter of 3 hours. We trash celebrities left and right in the random photos yet some of those groups only get 30 comments.

Honestly, if you don't like it. Do you really need to throw such a tizzy fit?

Did I use one F bomb?

smash said...

Jason! Your comment was priceless. :)

smash said...

Skyco- don't go. I remember you commenting a lot more frequently.

Team Vicki.

hackgnar said...

Dicaprio and Gibson in random photos....whadaya think?

Just_Me said...

Since I've broken out of my shell today just thought I'd share that I've been a loooonnnggggg time lurker here for well over a year... I've rarely posted on this thread..

Respect is respect no matter how long you've been posting on here...

caydian said...

No smashbash, I wasn't referring to you. Interesting, though that you should think that. Where in any part of my postings could you point to anything that resembles, "A tizzy fit"???

An unusual colloquialism.

XCentric said...

According to his IMDB, Mel Gibson was on a TV show called "The Sullivans" back in in the 70s.

MadLyb said...

@Vicki - I love your comments, LOL! In my own experience, about 99% of conservatives that I know are outright racists, so yes, Vicki is not out of line at all on this one.

For some reason, racists are attracted to the Republican Party platform. You hear the racist dog whistles going off when a lot of Republican politicians speak (ex: Mitt and his "birther" snipe the other day). I'm not saying there aren't racist Democrats. There certainly are, but it's not tolerated at all like it is in conservative circles.

smash said...

Your comment was just two bellow my own.

I wasnt referring to you having a tizzy fit.
I was referring to the whole comment thread.

How is it an odd colloquialism?

Upside Downunder said...

The issue is not democrat or republican in America. These choices are false choices and offered to keep the real issues hidden. The reality is corporate america owns the goverment and the courts. Over the last thirty years wealth has moved from the middle and lower classes to the rich and the corporations they own.

The abortion debate and racism are minor issues compared to the various wars going on, bank bailouts, the ongoing foreclosure crisis, the corporate penal system, privatization of public education, etc. The heat is rising but the frogs don't realze they are getting boiled to death.

When genuine protest movements start they get squelched or co-opted. The tea partyers an the occupy movement where siblings and had the same anger, one was squelched and the other got swallowed by the republicans.

Keeping the nation divided is the goal of the masters, so much easier to divide and conquer. Every person here who has identified as a republican or democrat is just proudly flying their slave flag.

CanuckNan said...

Off topic: Fassbender, yes please! Thanks for the distraction!!!

Bubbles said...

Pot I'd like you to meet my good friend kettle! Ok, I meant to say, Koreans generally as a population don't speak Vietnamese dialect. DUH!

And regardless of what people think about whether gov't should or shouldn't be paying for birth control, it's a hell of a lot more for gov't to pay for the kids that a person can't support on their own for 18 or how many ever years.

caydian said...

Smashbash, I have several screens open at one time. Have you ever been caught in the middle of a thought (i.e., posting on this blog) and had to switch to another screen to take care of another item of business only to go back to Blogger & publish your comment?

I would prefer these comments to be threaded. And I've heard of 'Hissy Fit' but not 'Tizzy Fit.'

It's been a trying day; I'm working with a new person named 'Damon' and while posting on this blog turned the word 'Democrats' into 'Demoncrats.' Unintentional but it didn't win me any friends here.

And I posted my picture here so people can see who they are complimenting...or f-bombing. :-D

Anonymous said...

I've worked in the entertainment industry in may different capacities since the age of 16 so a little over 15 years now, and regarding this whole race/political affiliation debate, I'm going to relay just a few of my personal and professional experiences in 'liberal' Hollywood:

I know a lot of men who have a fetish for black women but who make extremely insensitive comments about black people, and often about other people of color, who claim to not be racist when called out. Some of these men are dems and a few others republicans. Having a POC as your lover doesn't make you immune nor is it a cover for you to make racist comments or have racist beliefs.

I've been friends with and have dated men in front of and behind the camera who are known for being huge liberals who turned out to be gigantic misogynist pigs. Friendships and romantic relationships have turned sour or completely ended over their sexist attitudes even though publicly they advocate for equal rights and are the first to condemn organizations that exclude women. Intellectually they believe in equality but in their own lives the sexism is so ingrained and they're in such denial that they won't even allow for that discussion so so much for the tolerance and reason that they advocate.

I've had a friend who is a huge GOP supporter come to my defense on a couple of occasions (we do a lot of business together) when someone goes into a sexist diatribe against me b/c that's what ignorant assholes do when they refuse to be accountable for their own actions and decisions and try to blame everything and everyone else around them (I have no idea what their political affiliation are and ultimately it doesn't matter.) It's possible that I'm defensed because he and I have been friends for a long time but I can't really remember ever hearing anything sexist come out of his mouth before so it's like a mixture of both but likely more the latter. Like I said, huge GOP supporter, Reagan is god but not a racist, not homophobic and not a sexist.

I also have conservative friends who are not exclusively republicans but who hold what are labeled traditional values tied into religion, and while we massively disagree on some issues, we get along just fine and there isn't a bigoted bone in their body except for the pro-life thing which I personally feel is sexist even though they, of course, are coming into it from another angle. They don't look down on me or try to convert me even though I'm staunchly against religion but, then again, I don't condemn or try to change their beliefs either.

Your political affiliation shouldn't and usually doesn't define you. Do I believe that the GOP is affiliated with more racists than the Democrats? To an extent, yes but I feel that these are the radicals/extremists that get associated and ruin any political organization. The same thing goes for the Democrats, their radicals are the intolerant ignorant fools who think that every conservative/Republican is evil and can't see past the politics to get to know the individual. In other words, hypocrites.

Me, I'm an independent although lately I've been leaning a lot towards the Green party, and you know that there are environmental extremists who give your average eco conservationist a bad name. My association doesn't make me one of them.

pegd said...

I'm with all of you sick of Dems condemning, judging (hypocritically), and maligning Republicans. Thank you Thomas for your words.

I actually read this as someone who is a liberal and therefore (according to dems/media) should not be racist (we republicans KNOW they're no better), but is.

Agent**It said...

I have a question. How many candidates will we have on the ballot? I know of 4 parties and the write in option, but what (if any) are the others? Or just a link will do. Thanks.

Different Guest said...

Agent**it, it can vary from state to state depending on what their laws regarding qualifying for the ballot are.

Brenda L said...

This site sure is getting weird lately. I'm gonna blame Himmmm ;-)

Different Guest said...

I should also ad that the states vary on how the electoral college votes are calculated - some states are winner takes all others it's based on the percentage of the vote captured.

Popculturepooka said...

Bruce Willis can't be number 1. Die Hard with a Vengeance, Pulp Fiction, Fifth Element, 16 Blocks, Tears of the Sun, Unbreakable, Red, Catch 44, The Expendables, Cop Out and Sin City all poop on that. He is in an upcoming movie with Rosarion Dawson where he is a cop helping to stop white supremacists. Was in some direct to DVD crap where he teams up with 50 Cent. Also this photo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ActorBruceWillis_Iraq.jpg

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HalleGoLightly said...

Re: Voter ID

It's really simple. It creates a hurdle for people who want to vote. If people have to jump over hurdles just TO BE ABLE TO VOTE (not to actually vote), they're less likely to vote. The right knows that everybody voting is bad for them. Low turnout is good for them. It's simple math. Do you think it's a coincidence that the inner cities have 1 voting booth per many people, so those people have to wait -while- the burbs have multiple voting centers with multiple voting booths, so those people don't have to wait.

Here's what a guy in PA needed/had to do for him and his wife to get their ID's:

1) Driver's License.

2) Identification for U.S. Citizens: He produced his Passport.
(Alternatives: Birth Certificate with raised seal, Certificate of U.S. Citizenship, Certificate of Naturalization)

3) Two Documents for Proof of Residency: He produced the lease for their home and their electric bill.
(Alternatives with PA Address: Tax Records, Mortgage Documents, W-2 Form, Current Weapons Permit, Current Utility Bill - but not cell phone bills)

4) His Social Security Card (he still had his original which he signed when he was around ten years old)

His wife accidentally placed her Social Security card in storage. Thankfully she had her Passport. She can get a new SS card from the Social Security Administration by presenting it. But that's just another hoop to jump through.

Imagine what the poor, elderly, and students need to do to produce all this. Every US citizen has a right to vote. They shouldn't have to jump through prohibitive hoops to do so

To say that this doesn't disenfranchise old people and poor people is complete bullshit. Many old people don't have driver's licenses. My grandmother on my father's side doesn't. If an old person doesn't drive, s/he needs to get someone to take them to get the ID (ditto for a poor person, who may not have a car).

The biggest factor IMO is that poor people are at a HUGE disadvantage re: free time. Money = freedom. Try getting time off from your shitty job to go to the ID center (which is probably open from 9-to-5). If you're lucky enough to get time off, you won't get paid.

All of this for a nonexistent problem (voter fraud). It's just another manufactured right wing crisis like: Obama's birth certificate, the debt ceiling, czars, sharia law, the war on christmas, religion being "stripped" from public schools, and so and so forth.


JSierra said...

Holy Hollywood racist balls, how did the thread get so off track? It's the internet people, all you have to do is scroll down if you don't like what you see.

I really like Marky Mark for #1, however I do not think Mel is #2. That would be way to obvious and almost has no need to be a blind item. Racist remarks a procured daily from his lovely face vagina.

Jennmcn said...

Wow...Just so much hate today. I was looking for a little diversion.

Yesterday, the pool guy left my back gate open and my dogs got out. We found one of them but my old lady dog is no where to be found; we looked and looked. She's my son's dog, he's in the Marine Corps and had her since he was 10 years old. My husband cried himself to sleep last night and I don't know how I'm going to tell my son. Skully is practically deaf and blind. This morning there was a black bear in the neighborhood. http://www.svherald.com/content/news/2012/08/30/325751

There are people down south who have lost their homes. Say a prayer for them.

All this hate makes me so very sad for all of us.

smash said...

Hissy fit and tizzy fit always sort of went hand in hand in my family.

How this turned into such a political thread is crazy to me. Thats why I called it an f'ing train wreck. Please don't think those f bombs were aimed at you.

And I finally put up an AVI so I am not just a random profile :)

J. Fletcher said...

An American History course might be good for some commenters here. If you had anything more than a rudimentary understanding of American political history, you'd understand that no, Democrat is not automatically equal to liberal and Republican is not automatically equal to conservative. "Liberal" and "conservative" are relative, ever-shifting terms. In fact, the political landscape differs considerably according to region. A Republican in CT, for example, is probably more "liberal" than Democrats in what is called the Bible Belt (see former Republican Governor Jodi Rell, who signed a bill that made CT the first state to legalize gay civil unions without being instructed by a court to do so). In many parts of the South, there are old time segregationists who still refuse to vote for a Republican. As you should remember, Republicans were known for a long time as radicals--the party of African Americans. And liberal in one context is not liberal in another, and can cease to be seen as liberal in a moment as political, cultural sands shift.

Yes, as many people have pointed out, racists come in all creeds, colors, and political affiliations. As a minority myself, I have experienced as much--if not more--racism from people who professed to be liberals. That doesn't make me think liberals are bad--although I am wary of anyone who defines him or herself by something so simple as party affiliation or the facile terms "liberal" and "conservative." It just shows that what people say and what they actually believe deep down are very different. Implicit beliefs and prejudices are powerful things.

I've often noticed that how we express our ideas says much about the worth of our arguments. If you feel that your best mode of expression is to shout obscenities semi-anonymously over the Internet, then you are probably not doing much to advance your point.

SashaJames2 said...

He dated Jessica White a black model after his divorce and coupled with his work in Haiti, I doubt it's him.

astrogirl said...

I hope you find your dog, so sad Jennmcn.

Just to put my 2cents in here

I personally think it matters not one iota if you've been here since dot, or you came today....

If you want to make comments that are going to be perceived as inflammatory, then you have to be prepared to cop the comments that others are also entitled to make.

gladasallgetout said...

Michael Douglas? If I didn't want to associate with people of color, I doubt I'd have spent the last decade living in Bermuda.
Mark Wahlberg? A+ really?
Bruce Willis? He seemed to work pretty closely with Samuel L. Jackson in "Die Hard With a Vengence", Jeremy Irons, not so much.
Sean Penn is pretty much living in Haiti now, so I doubt that it's him.
I love the Al Pacino guess, but no TV for him that I recall. No tv for Arnold either.
Sounds like Johnny Depp to me. Mel for number 2.

lostathome said...

I hate to even say this, but could Jeff Bridges fit for #1? He has 4 grown daughters, I could a father telling them not to bring anyone of color home... And I don't remember seeing him in (m)any movies with people of color, well, black people anyway.

I like Sean Penn for #2

lostathome said...

I hate to say it, but could #1 be Jeff Bridges? He has 4 daughters, and I could definitely see a father telling his girls not to "bring anyone home" that was black/of color. And I haven't seen him in (m)any movies with black actors. I hope it's not him, just throwing that out there.

And I like Sean Penn for #2

Deed75 said...

I don't think # 2 is Mel. Danny Glover and Whoopi Goldberg have both come to his defense in the past.

Anonymous said...

There is no difference between republicans And democrats. All politicians are the same . Stop Identifying yourself as one or the other and stop attacking each other. Politicians don't give a flying fuck about you. Duh .

Anonymous said...

Ps this blind is bogus

Brenda L said...

All the craziness, you'd think it was a blue moon or something. Oh wait....

Jessi said...

Thank you Nutty_Flavor!!!!!! Agree agree agree!

I just sit here and shake my head. It actually really saddens me that it continues to be this way. Hope all can find happiness and stop with this madness! Its such a shame.






Jessi said...

Right @Brenda L!!! hahaha

ElRod said...

Def not mark whalberg, he's done plenty of films with people of all races, hell, he had his phase where he was trying to be "hood"...

I keep thinking michael douglas for #1. Haven't looked at his imdb history though cause my phone is slow as fuck!

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