Wednesday, October 01, 2014

Your Turn

I watched This Is Where I Leave You this past weekend and Jason Bateman has a line where he says there are no adults who are truly happy. There is always some issue or problem that keeps them from being happy and only children can be truly happy. Do you think adults can ever be truly happy?

70 comments:

jack ducky said...

Nope because with knowledge comes misery.

sandybrook said...

Absolutely not.

Brea Lowe said...

I'm kind of an adult and I'm pretty damn happy

Lady Heisenberg said...

Yes. It is all about perspective. As Obama once said, pessimism is a choice. Optimism is a better one. If you are miserable, try to fix it or stop complaining. Life is too short.

sandybrook said...

And who's to say kids are truly happy?

evil tigger said...

Life experience=misery.if i had a lot of money i could buy happiness briefly.

rosie riveter said...

I was more sad when i was a kid. I love being a grownup! Yes, happiness is possible, if you make it so.

FearN said...

Yes they can be happy - but happiness is momentary. Contentment is a better state to strive for. A better word to describe this situation than momentary happiness.

Most folks aren't content as adults. It's hard to get to a state of contentment but once you are there, you're set!

Lady Heisenberg said...

I apologize to those who do not care for this, but while we have a Your Turn post on shit Enty watched...
@sugartitties and SOA fans!!! I passed out after the episode- which is among my favorites, but here are my thoughts! Please share yours too!!! :)

****WARNING: SOA SPOILERS****
*The AB code opening was sweet! I recently interviewed a doctor who works for the CA parole board. He was raving to me about "how surprisingly polite the La Eme guys were" and how they "always talked a lot about their family members." Informing him that that was actually all code about business was worse than when my sister discovered there was no Santa.

*Courtney!!! Mrs Harrison be like "Grandma is kinda crazy!" Takes one to know one! All deez betches be talkin to themselves! Juice and Gemma should move those silencers to their mouths! (Who will kill the other first?)

*I also love the shout out to Althea (Court's role in Larry Flynt)

*VENUS!!!! I'm not worried- I'm jealous!!! My angel Venus brings light into the shadows and makes every wrong right again. I love you like no other, Venus. It finally happened, despite what the gif said <3

*Gish is so cute trying to appeal to the SOA members' sense of humanity and rat. Awwwwww.

*Shit just got real rough. Yikes. There is nothing the state takes more seriously than a gang related homicide of an on-duty cop. I've seen it happen to a couple kids I knew. The crime scene should've been 50x bigger to be realistic though. Major heat and possibility of the death penalty for SOA and AB now.

*Gish and Chibbs... WTF?!??! She's such a hypocrite. Taking bribes then complaining. How "Charming."

*Ironically, Gish's wide-on for Chibs was the reason those cops trailed SOA to begin with and got shot!!!!
"Keep it off the radio..." That was one trigger happy NeoNazi- all they were doing was talking in a field. But what can you expect from fuckers that tattoo their face up?

*So to the sheriff, Jax admits to a severe assault that was motivated to intimidate a witness? Right.

*Everyone has a blossoming love connection but poor lonely Juice :(

*Who ratted out SOA about the Chinese rip off job and ensuing set up of the peckerwoods? My bet is on Jerry. Others suspect Bobby.
*I also think it's weird Tully insisted that he bought off the interrogation room. Bullshit. I wonder if it was bugged anyways.

*Oh Jax! Loving you is so dangerous!!! Blondie somehow just made shit more complicated. But Marks warned him not to lie...or there would be consequences :(
I'm most scared for Juice.

Karen said...

Adults can have periods of true happiness, I think. I was very happy until my 30-year old husband got diagnosed with cancer last month.

jack ducky said...

It really is not that simple

Kno Won Uno said...

That's up to you, isn't it? The crummy adult shit can cloud the good stuff or not.
I'm happy about 80% of the time, but the other 20% is on me. Only me.

jack ducky said...

I think you can have moments of happiness sure but I don't think you're ever 100% happy. There is always something awful happening somewhere and that stops me from ever being 100% hapoy no matter what.

MontanaMarriott said...

To quote Maddy, "Happiness lies in your own hands". I am an extremely happy adult.

Murphy said...

I'm happier in the mornings because my mind is free-er.

Also after a bit of vodka.

CoBe said...

I"m totally an adult. Completely happy and content. I think the key is to surround yourself with the right people and get rid of the "downers".

jack ducky said...

And I agree with what FearN said

sandybrook said...

Sorry about your husband Karen. Hes young so he should be strong enough to give it a terrific battle and beat it.

Wen said...

Happy to me is my bills paid, my cat has plentiful food and litter, and I can sleep at night. I don't ask for much.

jack ducky said...

I didn't read this cause I haven't watched the last two eps but I feel like SOA has turned into such a soap opera. Crazy mess but I'm gonna watch regardless cause Katey Segal is incredible.

Gayeld said...

Oh Karen, I'm so sorry. I hope it's something treatable with a high success rate (or even better, a total mistake at the lab and he really just has the flu.)

Wen said...

Murphy - I think we are sole mates!!! LOL

jack ducky said...

Hugs to you and your husband, karen. I'll keep yall in my thoughts.

MeanieRhysie said...

<3 <3 <3 You and hubby are in my thoughts, Karen.

derek harvey said...

OMG---SO SORRY KAREN---my condolences

Jessi said...

Oh Karen. I am sorry to hear that. You and your hubby are in my thoughts.

Bacon Ranch said...

Oh no Karen :(
Thoughts and strength his (and your) way

All Lace no Leather said...

I believe you can be a truly happy adult. As @Lady said it's perspective. We can wine and complain about our 1st world problems, or we can be happy and appreciate what we do have. I may wallow and bitch sometimes, but I try to be positive most of the time.

Pip said...

Love you, Karen! <3

Seachica said...

I didn't read this. Have been very meh on SoA this season. I feel like the inevitable end is Jax kills his mom, in a MacBeth remake. Now that I know the ending, I am not as invested in seeing how. I think they should have just ended it after last season.

LowKey said...

To quote the wisdom of the Offspring:
This is life
What a fucked up thing we do
What a nightmare come true
Or a playground if we choose
And I choose.

Pip said...

I don't think you can be as happy as you were as a child. There is so much you don't K of as a child. Your mind is free, and the world is your oyster.

I do think you can be happy as an adult. It's just not the same as it is when you're a kid. That's part of growing up!

Pip said...

Don't know as a child*

QueenAnne Guido said...

White people problems. A clear case of white people problems.

Ive got every creature comfort and im not happy. SUCKS TO BE YOU.

Karen said...

Thanks, everyone. We're waiting to find out more information, but it seems like as long as it doesn't metastasize some day, we should be in the clear after some radiation.

Normally I wouldn't announce something like this on a gossip blog, but I figure that the more people who know, the more who can send prayers or good thoughts. And going along with what others have said, we're staying positive--and that's a choice.

All Lace no Leather said...

SOA spoiler alert - read so your own risk

@Lady, SOA was heavy! All these deaths are now on Gemma for lying about Tara's death. It makes me think one of 2 scenarios to end the series 1) The killings in retaliation for Tara's death continue and Gemma kills herself because of the guilt or 2) Everyone dies except Gemma.

crila16 said...

Only for about 10 seconds max, when all your cares and worries disappear and all you feel is sheer bliss. For some people, the big "O" may last a little longer.

Dena said...

Best wishes for you and your husband...I hope he kicks ass and beats it with ease!

All Lace no Leather said...

@Karen, your husband and family are in my prayers!

Virginia Staley said...

OMG i was saying something similar to my sis recently. My daughter entered the room we were in and i asked her what she'd been doing and she lept up and down flailing her arms as she was saying "i just watched so-and-so movie" then she did this again later at the ice cream truck. it was an adolescent expression of joy that has long since died in my and my sis. lol. or perhaps we've become jaded. i pointed it out to my sister that we should start doing that when we get something that makes us happy. can u imagine? your husband brings home a trinket just out the blue and you go "yay!" and jump up and down and flail your arms. lol

the joy and happiness adults feel is more sparse than that of a child, imo. i disagree that only children can be TRULY HAPPY.

Lady Heisenberg said...

@jacky: You are correct that it's not that easy. It's not. Of course terrible senseless things happen in addition to the structural obstacles we face that we cannot control. I'm not at all saying people deserve what they get and just deal with it. I'm saying that even when there does not seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel, I will always fight to make one. Because that's what I need to do to survive. I've seen a lot of bad shit.

@Karen: I always love your posts and I am so very sorry to hear about your hubby. HeisenHugs and tons of love.

auntliddy said...

They can be content, but i dont think anyone can be giddily happy all day everyday.

auntliddy said...

As for children, they are beautifully happy almost always. Why, all i hv to do to get my 3 and 5 yr old granddaughters' ecstatic-o-mter in overdrive is to mention playdoh!! Lol

jack ducky said...

I <3 you, lady h and I definitely know what you mean. I do try and stay optimistic most of the time but yeah shit can pile up and it gets exhausting like rn. I was definitely a lot happier as a child. I miss those days

SaintsFan said...

Oh, Jason spoke in the movie? I was too busy wiping drool off my chin. LOL Sorry, but I just adore him. As for the question, I will sum it up with one of my favorite songs. "It's easy to bitch
easy to whine
easy to moan
easy to cry
Harder to work
Harder to strive
Hard to be glad to be alive
But it's really worth it if you give it a try".

dunduhdunddun said...

It depends. I know an adult who really is happy. Most adults are not happy because life has beaten them down. If you ccan deal with your personal crap and learn to let it go then I think adults could be happier.

Sea Hag said...

"Happiness is overrated, joy is infinite"

Lady Heisenberg said...

@all lace: ooooh I love your SOA theories. I don't see Gemma killing herself though. She's too narcissistic and able compartmentalize/rationalize her crimes.
The saddest part is: Gemma's lie started the war, but now Jax finally has a reason to keep it going. I think Jax or Nero will kill her, I wonder what Juice has up his sleeve...
I know SOA has been annoying for a while but last night was sick

Gayeld said...

I think, in general, your life is what you make of it. You can be miserable and bitch about it or you can laugh most of it off and go on. 97% of it I can roll my eyes and mock, the other 3% I deal with as life throws it at me and move on as best I can.

Life kicked me really hard in the teeth once. After I picked myself back up, I learned to enjoy and be happy with what I have (which is more than a lot of people.)

Which doesn't mean I'd turn down the winning Lotto numbers. Or even a free lunch.

astra worthington said...

No. But I was never happy as a kid either, despite having an "ideal" childhood. I think it's probably a genetic thing, or maybe just the way you're raised. The things that make other people happy don't make me happy, and doing "fun" things are usually nothing but a huge miserable hassle. But I'm lucky and grateful that I don't have to worry about money, don't have to work, and have my health and my family is healthy as well. So I'm not "happy" but I am very aware of how good I have it and hope it continues.

poisoned koola said...

Walk into a hospital and visit people who wish they could just breathe on their own & then you'll be a lot happier with what you have.

Everything is perspective.
Don't wait til your perspective is grim to appreciate what you currently have.

Frosty said...

On the whole, yes, I am happy, even joyful. But then, my standards are low.

AngelBear said...

I think that adults CAN be happy but I don't think that many people ARE truly happy. The happiest adults I have ever been around were mild and moderately mentally retarded people (newer, politically correct term = intellectually and/or developmentally disabled). They say that ignorance is bliss.

AndrewBW said...

Count no man happy until he is dead.

LoMo said...

Happiness is not the wholy grail and definately not a consistent state of mind.

@Lady Heisenberg: consider yourself lucky that you haven't experienced depression. You WISH pessimism was a choice.

Erica EastCoaster said...

That's right Karen, positive thinking. I am sending happy thoughts and prayers to you and your husband. Here's to him kicking cancer right in its ugly ass!

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Kat has left the building said...

Jesus that has to be the saddest outlook on life I've ever heard. Fuck that, I get happier everyday!

caydian said...

If you're not unhappy once in a while, how would you know that you're happy? Once had a therapist tell me that only terminal patients appreciated sunsets. Since then, I've always appreciated sunsets; they're not only beautiful but they make me feel happiness! It's been a long journey but I feel happy everyday. Not all day, but most of every day.

Virginia Staley said...

"They can be content, but i dont think anyone can be giddily happy all day everyday."--auntliddy
i think a smart adult seeks contentment in life and not fleeting emotions like "happiness". so i agree with you.

Frufra said...

Karen, I'm so sorry to hear this. I will be sending you loads of good vibes and prayers for strength <3.

miliosr said...

I agree that "happiness" is an inapt term for what people experience in life. Better to discuss contentment and balance and fulfillment in the face of the inevitable challenges and disappointments that occur during a life. With a age comes a certain amount of reflection regarding choices made and not made. The trick is not to let yourself become paralyzed by dreams from your 20s that didn't come true, and instead to find continual meaning in your everyday life, no matter how mundane the tasks at hand may be. It's not always easy, believe me, but if you strive for contentment you'll probably be better off than striving for euphoric happiness.

califblondy said...

I was happy until I watched this movie. It sucked. I ate too much popcorn and had a headache and stomach ache. Oh, and Jane Fonda's acting was terrible. The siblings were all good, but the movie still sucked.

Alexa Rose said...

Happier now than I was as a child. I have more control and choices. Wish I didn't have to be financially responsible though.

@Karen, cancer sucks but it is very beatable.

redronnie said...

last weekend I bought my six year old granddaughter a pair of golf clubs, she was beating up the ball tossing in the air trying to hit it like a baseball. I was laughing so hard I nearly peed my pants. Time with my two granddaughters give me an incredible sense of peace and happiness. Yes, the sense of wonder and joy comes back with age. Not all children are happy or are allowed to enjoy the simple experience of playing or utilizing their imaginations. I have worked with a number of dysfunctional families - I wanted to kidnap their kids and just hug them and feed them cookies for lunch, watch Shrek all day and of course watch them master golf

Erik said...

No.

Cee Kay said...

I'm a very happy person. All the time. Yep, shit gets me down occasionally and there's something to be dealt with every day, but my life is generally good and I'm content and I choose happy. You think that only children can truly be happy, Enty? My childhood was horrific, although far better than lots of others have it. I'm much better off now.

Lady Heisenberg said...

@LoMo: I have experienced depression. I was not trying to be insensitive and I apologize if it came across that way. All I was trying to communicate is that I need to remind myself to look on the bright side of life so that I do not end up swerving back over to the dark side. Best to you, LoMo

PotPourri said...

I have an Autistic son, I will never be happy until he there is a cure for Autism.

MinPinGirl said...

I don't think there's anyway (as an adult) to have that truly carefree happiness like you can have when you're a child. Past a certain age that is not possible. Having said that you can most definitely have loads of happiness in your adult life but there are far more strings attached.

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