Ryan Jenkins' Dad Hires PI To Look For Real KIller
Ryan Jenkins' dad is starting to sound a lot like OJ. All we need now is Ryan's dad to write a book called "If Ryan Had Done It," and the circle would be complete. Today in Calgary there is going to be a memorial for Ryan. Ryan of course was the one and only suspect in the murder of Jasmine Fiore who was found in a dumpster back in the middle of August. Ryan then escaped to Canada where he later killed himself.
Ryan's dad told the Calgary Herald that he believes his son is innocent and is spending some of his fortune to prove it. "We have not been in a place emotionally that we can go to California yet, so I've retained sources down there to help us," said the architect. We just want the truth to be told."
You want the truth to be told? OK, here it goes, and I am not even going to charge you for it. Your son got jealous and he got into a fight with Jasmine. He probably went too far and ended up killing her. He then wanted to make sure he wasn't caught so he chopped off her fingers and pulled out her teeth in the middle of the desert and then dumped her body in a trash can. While he was doing that he sent their wedding rings to be cleaned in Las Vegas and called the police to report she was missing. He then drove up to the Canadian border and took a boat to Canada. He called his sister who picked him up and drove him to Hope where he killed himself. The end.
22 comments:
sad, but I can't imagine as a parent how I would feel if one of my boys was accused of doing this.
Apparently they also haven't been in a place emotionally that they can go to REALITY...it is a harsh place but he needs to take the trip.
Why did his dad take so long to make this statement?
I didn't know the part about the wedding rings.
I agree that as a parent, or any family member, it must be really hard to come to terms with the possibility of your kid doing something so horrible. But all evidence really does point to him. If a P.I. finds out something different, great. If not, no surprises there.
I know someone will have something to say about this, but I find it odd that a lawyer would find this Jenkins guy guilty whn he is dead and will never have his day in court. It just doesn't seem right, or something that a lawyer would naturally do. It's instances like this that really make me question Ent.
p.s. Yes, I already know I can easily close CDAN and not read it anymore, so you(as in vous) can save the lecture. :)
Sue Ellen the only thing I can say is that just because someone is a lawyer does not mean they don't have their own opinions, based on the evidence available, about whether a person is guilty or not.
You are an advocate for the client but not an impartial judge. Ryan is not Enty's client so he is entitled to voice his opinion.
That said I have serious doubts about whether Enty is actually an attorney. Attorneys are not experts on every area of the law but sometimes the things he says don't make sense...like not knowing how/ not bothering to look up simple state code that is available online via key words & thus easily accessible in a short period of time. I think that he just uses the guise of attorney as part of his blogger persona. It is ok with me though…I don’t read CDAN for legal advice.
Alice:
I understand what you are saying completely and I understand that you're allowed to have a personal opinion about things even if you are a lawyer, especially on your own gossip blog. However, I think when you put on the guise of being a lawyer and have people possibly believing it, they might take what you are saying as gospel because you are, as you say, a lawyer. I think it is one of those professions where you have to stay above board at all times, even if the topic is general and mundane. That being said, Ent isn't really saying anything other than what has been said in the media anyway, so this is probably all moot.
All I know is that when I grow up and become a lawyer, I won't be finding people guilty of things, regarless if they are my client or not, in a public forum where my opinion can be used against me in the future. Especially when they will never be given their due process with regards to a trial.
Thank you for listening. :)
No problem Sue Ellen...you are entitled to your opinion and you really are correct. I would never give these press bites the way some of these lawyers do on morning shows…same goes for these doctors who diagnose people who are not their patients...but I don't mind venting in the name of gossip on someone else's site under a fake name ;) You will have opinions on cases...it is impossible not to but starting a blog would be a little risky.
I don't think Enty. is a lawyer though so I let him slide. Honestly I would let him slide even if I was convinced that he is because I can't help it...I am addicted to CDAN!
Think twice about law school though...it is a real drag...at least that is what I hear! :)
Sue Ellen:
You seem to be confusing the role of lawyers with that of judges. Attorneys are advocates -- they represent their client, or a particular position, and do everything legally within their power to convince the trier of fact that their client/position is innocent, or right, or factual, or whatever. Beyond that, you have NO duty to ANYONE whatsoever arising from your status as attorney, other than the basic rules that everyone in society must obey (i.e. don't kill each other, don't drive drunk, don't poop on my lawn, etc.) There is nothing wrong, unethical, or improper about any attorney expressing an opinion about this guy or this case when that attorney isn't connected to the case. And even if the attorney IS connected to the case, there's nothing wrong with expressing opinions that are not in conflict with your client's interests. For example, the prosecutor in a case is under ZERO obligation to say "oh, well, let's wait until the facts are in." That's not the prosecutor's job. The prosecutor's job is to represent We The People, who believe that the accused is a criminal who should be punished (and have acted pursuant to that belief in arresting and prosecuting the accused.) It's not the prosecutor's job to give the accused his/her day in court -- that's the JUDGE AND JURY'S job. If the prosecutor says "this evil f-word slashed up his girlfriend like julienne fries before fleeing to Canada"... there is NOTHING inappropriate about that. It's doing his job. It's done ALL THE TIME. And if it's some other prosecutor from some other state who's just commenting on the news stories about the case? Still no problem, still no professional ethics issue whatsoever.
For the record: I'm a lawyer, admitted in CA, DC, and MA. Do I think this guy is (was) guilty? Hell yes. Common sense tells me that. If I find a guy naked, out of breath, and scratched to hell standing above a naked, bruised woman who claims to have just been raped, I'm not going to be helping him find 'the real rapist'!!!! Occam's razor. If it quacks like a duck, 99% of the time it's a duck.
Just my $.02
Also, when you grow up and become a lawyer, Sue Ellen, you'll realize why I chuckle when you say that people might take what we say as gospel. Please feel free to come do the billing work for our firm, for example.... :)
*SNAP!!!*
Sue Ellen if you are interested about learning more the link below is will take you to the American Bar Association (ABA) website…specifically to their “Center for Professional Responsibility”. Among other things, you can read the Model Rules of Professional Conduct (which is a bit lengthy) and see which states have adopted them and when. I am only telling this because you seem interested in the law; it is in no way intended to be condescending.
https://www.abanet.org/cpr/mrpc/model_rules.html
Enty and Dave R said it all. Judges are held to the standard of care you described, SueEllen; not attorneys.
lol@ harriet
'nuf said about Enty--attorney or not attorney? I believe he is one, but like anything else, it's just my opinion.
However, I also believe Ryan Jenkins was guilty. I can empathize with his family--and don't forget the sister's role in all of this. She had to explain to Dad why she drove Ryan, and I'm sure Dad doesn't want to believe that Ryan lied/manipulated his sister in the last day of his life, after killing his fiancee. Denial would run pretty deep on this one, and I can understand why, as a parent. I'd like to think I'd be more realistic, but who's to know? It must be an awful situation as a parent.
Ahem. Anywho..... Getting back to the blog entry at hand.......
What Ryan's family is going thru right now is a nightmare (and then there's Jasmine's family's pain), but, yeah, Mr. Jenkins needs to embrace the reality of all this.
Alice and DaveR:
Thank you both very much. I guess I should strive towards being a judge and not just an lawyer. ;)
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Xine Marie I hear you but I am just not sure what else there is to say about it. Heinous crime, guilt, family loyalty/understandable denial...I think that just about sums it up.
Google "april vaughn" which was Jasmine Fiore's alias to see some interesting images. Yeah, some "model".
"You want the truth to be told? ... The end."
He killed her, plain and simple all the evidence points to him, I was hoping his stupid sister would get arrested and charged for aiding and abetting a fugitive, whcih would probably mean 15 hours of community service in B.C. Canada, but the best we can hope for is her to be banned from the USA and her modelling career goes down the toilet, dumb bitch knew her bro was on the lam and an international fugitive and should've called the cops, but on the bright side the end result of Ryan hanging himself was better and cheaper for the Taxpayers of B.C. & California.
I suggest Ryan's dad not hire the same PI as OJ did, you never know you could end up in Vegas doing something stupid and illegal looking for the "real" killer.
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