Wednesday, February 13, 2019

Today's Blind Items - Things Got So Bad

In the past few months, this foreign born alliterate A-/B+ list mostly movie actress who used to be higher on the list, has been doing some talking about herself. It is probably the first time she has ever done that. She did used to talk to friends, but I remember about a decade ago, one of those friends talked a lot and many of the things related by our actress ended up on this site. So, everything went quiet. Now, instead of a friend who is talking it is the significant other of the actress because e is scared she will end up dead and he wants everyone to know in advance he had nothing to do with it if she is found dead. I think she she knows this which is why she has talked just a little, but it is kind of hard to just come right out and say you held a gun to your head and threatened to pull the trigger.

83 comments:

Tricia13 said...

Kiera Knightly?

Flashy Vic said...

If someone walked up to me and said ,"See her there? Well if she ends up croaked in a little while it has fuck all to do with me, right?"

Well guess whose name will be first on the list to tell the peelers about?

Ronaldus Magnus said...

Please not Keira...:-(

MDAnderson said...

Agree with Kiera. She has been talking about mental breakdowns and having depression a lot lately.

sandybrook said...

Do you refer to Asia Argento as an actress now Enty?

Brayson87 said...

Was kind of hoping for Amy Adams.

Brayson87 said...

I think Enty left out the part of the blind about why we should care more about the actress than the millions of people with depression that actually do try kill themselves.

kfitz said...

heartbreaking.

Brayson87 said...

The significant other must be a real piece of sh!t if his primary concern is potentially being blamed for her death. Uh maybe try getting her ass committed if you're actually worried, dumbass.

gauloise said...

Kiera is married, so wouldnt it normally say spouse or husband? Sig. Other is kind of for unmarried couples

J said...

Exciting stuff!

notthisagain said...

very sad - depression is a horror for anyone, famous or not. hope she heals and finds peace - its so hard. it erodes your life and who you are and you become a shell of your self. plus medications and all that CBT stuff dont always help.

devastating.

:| raven |: said...

thinking about wanting to kill yourself every day is not easy to deal with. trying to find a reason not to, is even harder.

mental illness is no joke.

i did read a very interesting article the other day about studies being done with ketamine, in very small doses, for treatment of depression and suicidal thoughts. they've had amazing success.

but of course, it's $500 a pop. so the people who NEED it will never be able to afford it due to the blood-sucking pharmaceutical companies.

Nonya Bidness said...

JFC, enty. You're as garbage a human being as her SO if all you're doing is passing along the tale.

Depression is not a joke, FFS.

Jimbonius said...

I hope whoever it is gets some help, or keeps procrastinating until things turn around.

J F said...

Date a veterinarian... Ketamine is just horse tranquilizer

Unknown said...

I thought women preferred to commit suicide by taking pills so they wouldn't ruin the "death mask" effect when their bodies are in the open casket. Same when it comes to jumping from a tall building.

Aquagirl said...

I hope this isn’t Keira. If it’s Asia, I’ll pull the trigger for her.

David Howes said...

A "Significant Other" is always a prime suspect until they are ruled out.

So, relax, don't do it.

The investigation will soon pass if you are innocent.

lightgirl said...

So Aquagirl, feel bad potentially for Keira Knightly, but it's okay if another human being pulls the trigger because you don't have liking or empathy for her?

Thonker said...

@Brayson cause this is a celebrity gossip site. "CELEBRITY" if you dont care nobody is forcing you to care.

:| raven |: said...

@Unknown - wouldn't matter if you're planning on being cremated.

Brayson87 said...

Oh FFS, everyone is depressed, if it's interfering with her life then she definitely has the resources and people around her to seek help. Generally it's usually the people who don't make threats or aren't drama queens that are the most worrisome. One day they're just gone.

Akbar Johnson said...

Everyone keeps saying "Significant other" but don't we all know she has been linked to Pete Davidson? Can kinda see why he thinks he would be blamed if she crashed and burned soon.

Rosemary Young said...

FWIW, Keira lives in England, where guns are not so easy to come by.

J said...

And the thing stopping this person from leaving public life and seeking help is?

gadfly said...

I hate to be grammar police, but isn't "alliterative" generally same sounding consanants (e.g. Megan Markle). Kiera Knightly begins with K, but there is a K sound, then an N sound. I may be wrong....

lightgirl said...

gadfly, from what I read it doesn't have to have the alliterative sound, just the letters

Brayson87 said...

@gadfly, Grammar and rating logic went out the window at CDAN a long time ago ;)

The John said...

Wait, the significant other put the gun to her head or what?

Also if it would be Knightley, why would she do it, my Father, she has a child!

Flashy Vic said...

@Brayson.

To Enty 'grammar' is what he angrily shouts as he drunkenly hurls his glass of single malt at the TV during Frasier marathons.

Here ButnotThere said...

@aquagirl Calm down tough guy

Ice Angel said...

So if this is KK and she did hold a gun to her head and threatened to pull the trigger, her next of kin (her husband) would have the legal right to have her put on at least a mental health hold, as that is clearly posing a risk to yourself or others. Everyone worries about the wrong things. What will the press say? What will this do to her career? How will this make me look? And I hope if she does it, people won't gossip that I killed her.

Call the police. Tell them she's threatened to commit suicide with a gun to her head. Let the press and "fans" say whatever they want to say. Her career and life is worth nothing if she's dead.

Depression sucks. But there is help.

GypseeWind said...

I love Frasier. Actually it's Niles I love so I have to suffer through Frasier's parts.

Brayson87 said...

+1 Ice Angel, even if it doesn't help, at the very least it establishes a paper trail showing she was prone to such behavior, protecting his ass. And would also make him a more decent human being as if he cared.

Beth said...

@raven, I've used ketamine several times a year for the last two years. It's a struggle to pay for out of pocket, but it is a game changer. I no longer have work absences like I did before I found IV ketamine, so no lost income, so I think it pays for itself in my case. I usually go on a Friday and am back to work and feeling normal by Monday.

The first treatment was over 4 days, 3 hour IV infusions. By the end of the 4 days, I felt like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders and I no longer had negative thoughts. For me it wasn't like a light switch turning on, more a process that took a few days during the initial treatment.

I go about every quarter for a an infusion as a "tune-up". It's criminal that ketamine isn't approved. My doctor gives me an anti-nausea medication in my IV when I get the ketamine infusion and I tolerate it really well. Within 20-30 minutes after the treatment ends, I'm up and walking. You feel like you've taken a few shots when it firsts infuses, but wears off quickly when it ends. I have a mellow playlist to listen to during treatments and can almost see the music :) I don't hallucinate, but your depth perception is definitely distorted. I bring a blanket and neck pillow, recline in the treatment chair and listen to music for a few hours.

I have done ECT and while it is life-saving, I find ketamine is much better for me.

If anyone has any questions about it, ask away, I usually read comments every day.

Sagan said...

I'm thinking Wendy Williams, and her POS husband.

Sagan said...

Well shit - it'd help if I read the FIRST LINE of the blind... WW is not foreign-born.

emeraldcity said...

New research on gut bacteria has discovered that two important bacteria are missing from the gut of people who suffer from depression, bacteria that stimulate the production of dopamines (the happy chemical), they are looking at putting them into pill form. Good lord if only it could be that simple.

BRAD PITT said...


keira new movie is atrocious

Berlin i Love You

Sarton Bander said...

Also gut production of Butyrates.

Nancy Dee said...

Kate Beckinsale is dating Pete Davidson, which i do not get even a little.

@Beth - thank you for that information! that is exactly what i read in this article. one person in the group said "it's like i've been carrying about 100 lbs on my back my entire life and 90 lbs have been lifted away." it also talked about how quickly it works compared to anti-depressants which often take 4 - 6 weeks to begin working.

i read the article yesterday off of Pocket (Google). i can't find it now (of course) but it made me hopeful for the first time in my life.

Nancy Dee said...

@emeraldcity

i'd be interested in learning more about this as well.

Nancy Dee said...

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/mental-health/new-depression-drug-related-ketamine-recommended-fda-panel-n970836

Susannah Leigh Murray said...

A guy who makes you laugh who is rumoured to be well endowed - what’s not to like? I think Kate is on to something

Brayson87 said...

Ketamine is a date rape drug. One of the three most common date rape drugs. And people want to market it to the masses. Good f*cking job doing your own research.

https://efficientgov.com/blog/2018/03/30/what-to-know-ketamine-common-date-rape-drug/

https://drugabuse.com/date-rape-drugs/

https://www.womenshealth.gov/a-z-topics/date-rape-drugs

"Because of its ability to cause confusion and amnesia, ketamine has been used for date rape.[190][151]"

"At subanesthetic doses – under-dosaged from a medical point of view – ketamine produces a dissociative state, characterised by a sense of detachment from one's physical body and the external world which is known as depersonalization and derealization.[192]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine#Recreational_use

"Ketamine dissolves in liquid, allowing it to be slipped into drinks, and its sedative effects have been used to prevent victims from resisting sexual assault. For this reason it has been commonly referred to in the media as a "date rape" drug. Take caution at parties and bars—watch your drink. "

https://web.archive.org/web/20140407061143/https://knowledgex.camh.net/amhspecialists/resources_families/Pages/ketamine_dyk.aspx

Beth said...

@Nancy Dee
Go to clinicaltrials dot gov and see if there are any ketamine studies for depression. There was one at the NIH a few years ago.
Ketamine should be given in emergency departments for suicidality, to get a person out of the danger zone and start adjunctive therapy.
I can't stress enough that while I have ketamine treatments, I also go to a therapist regularly and take daily medications. I had to prove to my ketamine doctor I am under the care of a psychiatrist. I have a history of trauma too and EMDR has also helped me so much. EMDR has taken away the visceral reaction I would have to a memory. I still have the memory, I just don't have the same response.
My life has changed so much. Before ketamine, I would have to go out on short term disability at what seemed like every other year and went through the whole day treatment programs to get back on my feet when I found myself in the abyss again.

Beth said...

@Brayson, I'm only speaking about IV ketamine therapy, given my a doctor, in a hospital or clinic setting to treat depression. It should never be available outside of a health care facility because of potential abuse.

Littledrunkinhooker said...

@Beth, I'm glad it's working out for you.

Brayson87 said...

@Beth, IV therapy in a clinical environment is cool, but they're talking about nasal inhalers now, probably for home use:

https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/13/fda-drug-ketamine-depressed/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/health/depression-drugs-ketamine.html

Beth said...

@Brayson, nasal ketamine is a terrible idea. Totally agree.

Velvet Voice said...

guys ketamine causes a DIVISION IN YORU BODY ... A DISOCIATION ABOUT THE PERSPECTIVE OF YOURSELF ...

It s used in vet medicine as a ANESTHETIC FOR SURGERIES IN BIG ANIMALS

RARE to use it in humans cause the effects it causes ... few years ago it became THE TRNEDY DRUG in my country (Argentina) so now vet clinics MUST have a very accurate record aboit the drugs they use and THE DOSES IN SURGERIES .... cause many vets were acting as drug dealers ...

Scandi Sanskrit said...

Whoever this is, her SO is selfish piece of shit.

And I hope she feels better. πŸ’›

astra worthington said...

Beth, you’re in the US? How do you get this? Are you in a big city? I’m curious as to how the process goes to get it.

hunter said...

I snorted too much ketamine once. 2:10 would not recommend.

Count Jerkula said...

Keira is a hot POA, this is sad. She still scrawny or she put on any weight in the past couple yrs.

liz whymann said...

Is the last line literal? Like literally putting a gun to your head? The tone would change if it's metaphor. Either way I think the world is ready to hear the truth about how wealthy powerful people really get their kicks. I'm tired of being oppresses girl, aint you?

Aquagirl said...

@Lightgirl, @herebutnotthere: I was kidding. Get a sense of humor.

Freebird said...

Yup. I’m wondering if it would help me. Nothing has ever really helped my depression. And I agree with your first 2 sentences, very strongly. I’m having to do that now. I was suicidal last week. First time in a lonnnnnng time. My son happened to text a couple days later. I kind of talked about it, a little. He said he didn’t know what he would do without me. He said his daughter (my grand baby) needs her Mimi. I honestly did not think he’d give a shit if I were dead. I feel like I’m an embarrassment. Just shows what depression can do to your mind. So, I’m thinking of what he said, over & over, every single day. It’s what is keeping me on this earth, despite my situation. πŸ’—

Freebird said...

+1

Freebird said...

+1

Freebird said...

God, I wish I had the money to try it. I HATE living with this f’ng black cloud.

Freebird said...

+1

All-Generican said...

@freebird I have never commented before, and this will likely be the only time I do. However, I do read this site from time to time and you are someone I remember. You are interesting and funny and one of the few commenters I’ve caught myself relating to. I see you. I get it. As a fellow human who knows little about you from what I glean from sardonic comments and clever takes, I appreciate you. I can only imagine that those who know you in real life would say the same a thousand over. There would be a mimi-shaped hole in this world without you in it. So from me to you, please stay. Reach out and you may be surprised at the people who reach back.

sugar of lead said...

All-Generican +1 +1 +1 to Freebird

Gylly said...

Depression is Hell on Earth. You are so special, please keep fighting. And it is a draining, exhausting fight. How wonderful are you to be able to acknowledge how you feel. Dump it all on strangers, professionals trained to help you. Try one after the other, but keep trying. Don't listen to those evil thoughts; you really are a miracle. Much, much love to you.

Anna Mouse said...

@Beth - thank you so much. an eye-opener. i shall be googling the heck out ketamine treatments. :-)

James Howlett said...

Ketamine treatment works, but so does any other hallucinogen. Microdosing mushrooms helped me. One think Ketamine can do that other hallucinogens can not is reset your pain receptors. Imagine having to constantly up your meds for relief, you end up on oxycodone, oxymorphone, and juggle ER and IR medications. One treatment of Ketamine has been known to be helpful. Remember when MDMA was used in relationship therapy? It supposedly halved divorce rates. LSD cured alcoholism. Controlled trips work wonders if you can get through it all. You have to have a strong will and stop listening in the propaganda.
Neal Brennan's talked about ketamine as an antidepressant. It worked for him. I have my old life back, if I could get back all the time I spent sleeping to kill time I would be happy.

Count Jerkula said...

The LSD alkie treatment is the tip of the iceberg. I think that it can be used to wipe the hard drive and reboot to clear up many issues, from personality disorders to bipolar.

Beth said...

Part 1
Ketamine is not a hallucinogen. Ketamine is a safe and effect drug that has been around decades, it is an anesthetic. It is often used during surgery as an adjunct to other anesthetics, but is most commonly used in children these days. It is short acting so it wears off quickly. Yes, it is also used in veterinary medicine.

In the US, you can search for ketamine clinics online. These are usually pain management clinics where ketamine is also used for chronic pain. Pain management clinics are usually run by anesthesiologists, who have a vast amount of experience with ketamine because it is an anesthetic. Once you find a clinic, make an appointment for an initial evaluation. I had to show proof I was under the care of a psychiatrist, and had a general exam to find out if I had any other conditions. I think my initial evaluation was $300-400. I made an appointment to come back the following week for my first treatments and it was booked over 4 days, with IV infusions lasting about 3 hours each day. I don't remember the total cost, but now each "tune up" is about $600.

There was one clinic in the state I lived, about 4 hours from my home. My doctor's office had a deal with a Holiday Inn Express and I stayed there all week. My mother went with me. You need a driver. I had my appointments in the morning and by lunch, I was able to go have a light lunch with my mom in a restaurant. I also went to look at antiques in the afternoon one day. I took it easy all week and napped after lunch. As I said before it was a gradual relief of depression, but the suicidality was relieved very quickly.

I moved for a new job and coincidentally it is only one hour from my ketamine doctor. Again, you really need to have a support system in place, a psychiatrist, a therapist and most likely oral medication for depression. I have found my depression comes on all of a sudden with dark thoughts now and I make an appointment right away, take a sick day and have the infusion. I am back to work the next day. I prefer to schedule on Fridays so I have the whole weekend to just relax and nap. I no longer miss work because of depression. I no longer have to take short term disability. Yes, it's expensive, and it's heartbreaking more people can't afford it, but it has been worth every penny for me. I'm productive and have a full life. I don't experience hopelessness and suicidal thoughts. I still have low level depression, like loss of interest in things like reading, or bouts of difficulty concentrating, but I don't return to the abyss (my word for depression). I also have PTSD and it has helped that with EMDR done with my therapist.

Beth said...

Part 2
I know ketamine is abused and I've read about it. I don't hallucinate on it, but it alters your perception. The room has weird dimensions once the infusion starts. I've only ever tried pot in the past, so listening to music on ketamine is kind of trippy. I mentioned before I feel like I can see the music! My doctor offers versed (like IV valium) with the ketamine, but I decline because I don't like how I feel after versed because it causes amnesia. Versed is often used if you've have a colonoscopy, for example.

I am a medical professional, so it wasn't so scary for me to try ketamine because I knew what a safe anesthetic it was. I let my psychiatrist give my phone number to patient's of his who were thinking about it. I only talked to one guy and he was too scared to try it. Having gone through life saving ECT treatments, a total of 24 in my case, in the early 2000's, I couldn't face ECT again unless I had no other options. My psychiatrist told me to research ketamine. He didn't know a single place but read about it. I had to do all the research myself to find a clinic and doctor. My ketamine doctor is amazing. He's a an anesthesiologist who went into pain management after a career in hospitals, even serving in the military. He noticed his pain patient's mood improved when given ketamine treatment for pain. His nephew turned into a "zombie" (his words) due to depression so he started offering it to patients when he saw how much it helped his nephew.

Clinics across the US will use different protocols for how they give it. My doctor uses a mix of some of the most common ones. He likes a 4 day initial treatment, but some places use shorter ones. I call the office and come back for a tune up as needed. I determine when I need it. There was only one time it didn't last more than 5-6 months.

Sorry for the long post, but if one person can find relief it's worth it to post. I'll keep checking through the weekend if anyone has questions.

Be well, All.

Large Marge said...

Fascinating information re depression meds. Really informative. Thank you, CDANers! SO nice when we all get along!

Beth said...

Freebird,
No one can imagine how painful depression and suicidality is until they have experienced it. I kept going many years because I didn't want to devastate my parents. I survived long enough to find a treatment that worked for me. It could happen for you. It may not be ketamine, it might be another treatment. My psychiatrist mentioned transcranial magnetic stimulation at the same time he mentioned ketamine to me. I went for ketamine because it was more readily available to me. Insurance readily covers ECT and it helped me survive my first experience with suicidality. It's not as awful as it seems in the media. I had some memory loss, but it wasn't dramatic. That whole time period is hard to recall because I was on so many drugs to find one that worked for depression.
The disease distorts our perceptions of ourselves and others.
I am one of the lucky few who has had insurance and the means to pay for treatments. There are community resources. NAMI is a wonderful national organization in the US that can help thing you to places in your area. If you have a company with benefits, contact your company's Employee Assistance Program (EAP). They usually will give you 3 to 5 visits with a therapist who can refer you to someone.
My niece call my mom Mimi too. Hang in there Mimi. You have people in your life that love you. Ask for help.

Beth said...

One last thing...I promise!
Before I found ketamine, I didn't know how I could go on. A young woman I worked with, and actually really disliked, killed herself. It had a huge impact on me. I saw how much it effected everyone. I found her to be a very disingenuous person and jealous. She was messy too, newly married and having an affair with a co-worker. Buying Adderall on the street to stay skinny, mood changes and erratic. She has some underlying pathology for sure.
She had a fight with her lover, face timed with him and hung herself while he was on the call.
I was astounded there wasn't a single person she could ask for help. I thought of all the family, friends, neighbors, colleagues and health care providers I could ask for help. Her suicide was so sudden and final. I know that sounds weird, but it was so final and violent and ugly. I knew I couldn't pain my family like that.

A. said...

Freebird -- Thank you for being brave enough to admit your struggles. I hope you find peace in your heart and soul, sooner rather than later. ❤

A. said...

About ketamine resetting pain receptors...would that be a helpful component to add to a regimen designed to detox a person from opiates?

Vita said...

πŸ’“ to you Cdaners...all of you are much appreciated!

A. said...

Thank you for sharing all of that, Beth. Very interesting.

Freebird said...

Thanks so much, Gylly & A. You have no idea how much your words mean to me. Truly. ❤️

Freebird said...

Annnnnnd....I’m bawling.
THANK YOU a million times over for your kind words & compliments! I wish I could see myself as others do. I guess it’s from how I was raised, but I only see my mistakes, which are plentiful. In 2 days, I will be homeless. I’ve heard about people being homeless & donated for the greater part of my life to homeless causes. But me? I’m gonna be homeless? It’s a concept I can’t even wrap my brain around. And all because of corporate greed (my employer made drastic pay cuts & I’m making about 75% less). For the first time in umpteen years, I couldn’t make rent. I can’t find anyone to foster my cats. I don’t know what is going to happen to me or them. I’m sick with worry and grief. My dad just passed & he was who I turned to for advice. So...I’m facing this all alone. My many friends are not there for me. Not one of them has offered to even let me sleep on their floor. This is completely surreal. I feel like the biggest failure...😞

Freebird said...

❤️❤️❤️ Thank you!

Freebird said...

Thank you. πŸ™πŸΌπŸ’—
Mimi is French for Grandma. My mom was French, so that’s why I wanted to be called Mimi. In honor of her. She committed suicide when I was 19, so she never met my children.

Freebird said...

That’s what’s always kept me from doing it. My mom did it and a year later, my baby brother did it. I don’t want my boys thinking this is a family legacy or something. Like it’s how we handle problems. So, I’ve stayed strong, for them. But lately, everything is just TOO MUCH. My doc wanted to hospitalize me. Because my depression has made my life unmanageable lately. And because I was suicidal. But, I fought it because I HAVE to find a foster home for my cats & I was trying so hard to make rent, thinking I could pull a rabbit outta my hat & not be evicted.
That was not to be.

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