Sunday, July 14, 2013

Blind Items Revealed

March 15, 2013

This film was huge when it was filmed. Not so much for the amount of money it made, which was not a ton, but it was one of the first films to ever have actual sex and not simulated sex. The director thought it would be a great idea. Now though, much of the cast has died to very strange or unknown circumstances. There is the B list actor in his own country, who died. He comes from a very well known family. I can't make this too easy.  Along with him dying of very strange circumstances, his co-star who he had sex with during the movie and who had her husband leave her shortly after the making of the film died from unknown causes. these are not old people who died. They were young. There are reports that several other members of the cast also are suffering from some of the same ailments, including two who have been in the hospital for months and that crew members from the set have died and that it is all being hushed up because of some of the names involved and who paid for the financing and who is responsible for the virus which is killing them all.

Movie: "Pola X"
B list actor (in his own country): Guillaume Depardieu (Gérard’s son)
Co-star: Yekaterina Golubeva

30 comments:

Tyger Lilly said...

Only name I recognize is that hideous Frenchman's son, and could this "mystery ailment" be, duh... I dunno... AIDS?!?! And lots of people have had real sex on camera-it's called PORN.

Tillie said...

Wow! Someone didn't get enough coffee this morning....

timebob said...

He lost his leg due to a motorcycle accident and getting a staph infection at the hospital.

Then while filming a movie in Romania he had contracted a virus and died. He had reconciled with his father shortly before his death. he was only 37.

I don'think it is King Tut curse worthy. But these things do happen. How it's related to a real sex scene in a legitimate movie, I don't really get the connection.

Topper Madison said...

According to this obit, he also had issues with heroin, alcohol, and was occasionally a male prostitute--all prior to 1991. That puts him in a very high-risk group for contracting HIV.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/oct/14/obituary-guillaume-depardieu

it took forever said...

Apparently he was patient zero for the aids on that movie set, i think someone had solved this

it took forever said...

Still dont understand, some of these kids have everything as children and still end up living a terrible life

Bacon Ranch said...
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Bacon Ranch said...

He didn't have sex with her in the movie. Watch it again, that was a body double.
She committed suicide in 2011 after leaving her first husband and marrying the director (they had a child together).
As to what lead to Guillaume's death, who knows? It could have been a myriad of things, from the lifestyle he had or the drugs he took or from the leg loss. We'll probably never know.
He looked very fragile right before his death, that's for sure. I'm glad for him that he was able to reconcile with his father before he passed.

Sue me, I like subtitles.

Samantha M. said...

@forever - sometimes it's because you have everything as a kid that you end up living a terrible life. If you didn't have everything as a kid, you are probably a much better person for it.

CrazyCatLady said...

So the actor had HIV and everyone was sleeping around and contacted it. What about the crew members? Was it a giant orgy with a bunch of people who'd never heard of a condom? Seems a bit exagerated.

Topper Madison said...

I lost more than one friend to that disease in the 1990s, and they weren't even drug users or male hustlers--just gay men--so I really don't see how a heroin user and male hustler in the 1980s possibly contacting HIV is unbelievable. This guy was definitely high risk, and body doubles or no, who knows what went on off screen? I'm just saying it's not a huge leap of the imagination that HIV could have easily been spread around a film set in 1999.

Unknown said...

91 of the 220 people involved in the production of "The Conqueror" in the 1950s contracted cancer within 25 years, and 46 of these died as a consequence of this illness
It was shot in St. George Utah, which is the first town downrange of the Nevada Nuclear Test Site.
When they went back to Los Angeles to film interiors & a few outdoor shots with a matte background, they brought back several truckloads of the sand from Utah.
So they breathed in that radioactive shit for days on end.
It killed John Wayne, Susan Hayward, Dick Powell, Pedro Armandariz & Agnes Moorehead.
While Wayne & Moorehead were heavy smokers, many others died of cancers other than lung.
Several of Wayne and Hayward's relatives also had cancer scares as well after visiting the set. Michael Wayne developed skin cancer, his brother Patrick had a benign tumor removed from his breast and Hayward's son Tim Barker had a benign tumor removed from his mouth.

Wikipedia:
Dr. Robert Pendleton, professor of biology at the University of Utah, stated, "With these numbers, this case could qualify as an epidemic. The connection between fallout radiation and cancer in individual cases has been practically impossible to prove conclusively. But in a group this size you'd expect only 30-some cancers to develop. With 91, I think the tie-in to their exposure on the set of The Conqueror would hold up in a court of law." Indeed, several cast and crew members, as well as relatives of those who died, considered suing the government for negligence, claiming it knew more about the hazards in the area than it let on.

trouble bubble said...

Wiki says Yekaterina died in 2011. Quite a long time from 1999 when Pola X was filmed, don't you think? Like 12 years apart?

Alicia said...
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Angela said...

@Bacon Ranch. Golubeva had a body double for the hardcore scene, Depardieu opted in and had sex with her body double. So, even if you can't see his face in the shots (which are by the way very dark), it's still him.

This blind comes mostly from third hand knowledge. Depardieu had well-documented health issues that started long before shooting the film (he had a strong limp when he walked). He might have also contracted AIDS but his known issues are reason enough to cause death.
Golubeva didn't die from unknown causes. She committed suicide. She had a kid with Pola X's director, Leos Carax, after the film was shot, so AIDS is unlikely. And her former husband, director Sharuna Bartas, was also in the film.
So, there's little reason to assume that most of the claims in the blind item are true and that a director would have let his future partner and mother of his child have sex with a guy who had AIDS, or that it was a full scale orgy on the set. The film is sinister art wankery.

And Japanese investors, not the Depardieu family, paid for the movie. Carax was revered in Japan long before his comeback vehicle, Holy Motors.

Alicia said...

There would have had to be a lot of unprotected sex to cause an outbreak that killed numerous people. HIV is very viral but it's like a 1/200 transmission rate from man to woman and 1/700 transmission rate from woman to man unprotected. Anal is higher due to more tearing and blood exposure and all that. So I just think it'd require a load of sex (like constant and always unprotected plus some anal and no man can be circumsized) to pass HIV around to a ton of people. Throw in a bunch of IV drug use and days-long orgies and then I'll believe its HIV.

HIV is awful and I know one time can obviously be enough to pass it on. It's just the statistics are what they are.

Maybe he had ebola.

Angela said...

@Becca Parker
Another possible cause for the cancers was that the cast and crew brought back vitrified sand from the explosions as memorabilia, which means some of them spent years with radioactive items near them.

Bacon Ranch said...

Oh I know HE had sex on screen, I meant that he didn't have sex with her on screen, it was a body double.

Topper Madison said...

There may have been drug use as well. Sex is not the only way to contract HIV. It's not a cured epidemic. More people are living with HIV today than ever. Treatments have only enabled people to live with it longer.

12 years from contracting HIV to death is not uncommon, and death from pneumonia is frequent. I lost two friends to AIDS-related pneumonia.

I'm sticking with my HIV answer because the evidence presented fits it best, and that's sad.

Bacon Ranch said...

Topper, she committed suicide.

Unknown said...

Topper... how does the evidence fit it best? Seriously. Sorry you lost friends to HIV related illnesses, but this so-called blind shouldn't even be a blind it is so poorly presented.

I too lost friends to HIV. However, I know dozens more who are still alive 25 years later because of medication.

Cast & crew on this film ALL died from HIV illnesses... yeah, right.

Robert said...

Shades of Inland Empire!

Jessie said...

I'm still trying to figure out what Holy Motors was about.

Not A Ninny said...

"Another possible cause for the cancers was that the cast and crew brought back vitrified sand from the explosions as memorabilia, which means some of them spent years with radioactive items near them."

The only way anyone from The Conqueror could have obtained radioactive vitrified sand would be if they'd driven a hundred-odd miles to the test site. Fallout exposure doesn't work like that anyway. Both the immediately fatal and cancer-causing exposure comes from short half-life isotopes. You can collect ground zero blast slag and it's not going to kill you. Just don't eat off orange Fiestaware!

FrenchGirl said...

This blinc item is a made-up and Depardieu is not dead of AIDS

Anonymous said...

come on " the virus that killed them all" on a sex movie... gotta be HIV. ....I'd like " Bad Ideas" for a $500 Alex.

astrogirl said...

Exactly. If you don't have to work for things, you don't appreciate them

Bacon Ranch said...
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Bacon Ranch said...

It wasn't a sex movie. It was just a sh*tty movie that had a sex scene (that did not include the crappy actress playing his so-called sister).

Angela said...

@Bacon Ranch
half-sister :P

It was an adaptation of Melville's Pierre: or, The Ambiguities and filled with symbols taken from Leos Carax' own life, as the guy mostly thinks of himself in his films.
Even the title stands in for the 10th revision of the script he had written based on Pierre Ou Les Ambiguïtés (the French title of the novel).

Carax tends to use Denis Lavant as the lead in all his projects. I assume that Depardieu was the producers pick, as the name could bring some prestige, especially when next to Catherine Deneuve, who played his mother.
By the way, her death in the motorcycle accident, another random and ridiculous thing in the movie, is a reference to Jean-Luc Godard, who was nearly killed in an accident in the 70s.

And Carax, not so surprisingly given his artiste maudit statute, has bedded many famous women: Julie Delpy, Juliette Binoche, Carla Bruni...

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