Final Timmy Update
I thought about throwing out some more red herrings but everyone has worked so hard on this and done so much that I don't want to throw everyone in a tizzy again for the next 36 hours. Therefore I will refrain from driving you even more insane by throwing out hints that may or may not be hints.
It is indeed a dog who won a gold medal and the dog belonged to a black kid who was in Our Gang, but really wanted to be a woman. I don't know how you managed to put it all together.
Seriously though, from a quick read of all the comments it appears that for the most part, the entire thing including the how and why have been solved. There are about four or five comments that put it all together, and so I really don't know what to add except to tell you that it was an Academy Award.
405 comments:
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Great post, that. It's at the bottom of Page 8.
I've done a Photoshop with Brady/Blake/Merrill and I can't figure out how to get it on my comment here. Does anyone know how to do that? By the way, i'm totally on the Brady/Blake train now.
Thanks.
angela said:
PS: "Angela" is a Gmail account I started to use as a joke. In real life, I'm a French straight guy living in Paris and I never dress in drag.
You know, if Alice Brady turns out to be the correct guess- how friggin' ironic that a straight guy, who never dresses in drag, and is using a woman's name, was the one to guess it first?? I'd love that!!! It would just seem... "meant to be". Two guys- one gay, one not- one dresses in drag, one doesn't- but both using a female persona "on stage" - and both names starting with the letter A.
Angela- or should we call you "Mangela" now?? LOL! If it does turn out to be AB- I'm glad it was you that first mentioned her name- even if it was just a lucky guess. It still seems "right".
Ditto what Dragon Slayer said.
Helena,
I'm with you that Timmy didnt get HIV through sex. I think he got it through a blood transfusion and hives can be contracted through a transfusion also!
Has anyone noticed in this pic of Walter Merrill that his right arm is completely covered with hair and the left one isnt?http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6cgpdmv
Just sayin...
Standing Bear you're comparing two opinions of the forum here to what happened last night? Nice shit stirring but it doesn't compute. And the deleted post - one of them anyway - contained my email address. Someone asked for it and I decided I didn't want it posted in public, so I posted it and once I got the email, deleted it.
Way to try and fan the flames by pulling people into it that weren't part of the fray to begin with.
Now stfu and let people get back on track here.
Oh, and the reference to the message board was only because she asked if she could message me there and I said I wasn't a member because I didn't like the *secret club* nonsense.
That was worth going back through posts to repost, wasn't it?
To: Christine!
Nicely said... we did learn a whole lot about old Hollywood which was fascinating. I wake up in the morning thinking "only ___ days 'till the reveal" which never happens with me.
I hope you're not referring to my post as guessing "Joan Crawford" as Shimmy! I certainly NEVER considered Joan Crawford a contender; I was simply posting the facts, which was that Joan Crawford was one of the two names I found posted on 3 sites before noon on August 30th.
No no. before that. Again, I don't want to go back and find it all, but at one point numerous peeps were posting on here very far-fetched guesses of very well-known people. It was obvious that they hadn't really thought it out and were trying to make things fit ideas that they had instead of doing real sleuthing. It was days ago from a fresh clue. The people who posted it hadn't read the previous stuff by everyone else I think...
Okay, cool...thanks. :)
Are we giving up on the Timmy identification and just waiting for Wednesday night?
I don't see how it can be Walter Merrill.
Don't we agree that Timmy's Hollywood-to-Death timeline has to be somewhere between 1930-1980 and 1935-1985? If Merrill's first film is made in 1925, that's off by a good 5 years. Does ENT stretch things that much in his blind items clues?
If you haven't looked at this site, it's a tribute to Arthur Blake.
http://phantomdragon.com/THELEGEND/blake.htm
There is a picture of Blake with 3 other very famous female impressionists, and he is much too tall to have been Alice Brady on a movie set. (You can get away with height when you're alone on a stage, but when you're surrounded by shorter men on a movie soundstage, the questions are bound to arise.)
This Timmy stuff was my first visit to this site, and I can't tell you all how much I enjoyed following all the trains of thought as they went east to west and west to east. And how much I learned as my Shimmy choice grasshoppered from Judy Holliday to Josephine Hull to Kay Kendall to Alice Brady to Margaret Rutherford.
And I was amazed to learn that Eve Arden was nominated for supporting actress for "Mildred Pierce" !! I did not know that.
And I need to learn more about Janet Gaynor, Louise Rainer, and Norma Shearer. So thank you, ENT, for getting us all so interested in the earlier days of Hollywood history.
Twisted Sister:
My intent wasn't to sidetrack the main discussion (which, notice, still goes on and around these off-topic posts). I didn't originate this; I was responding to the barrage of outrage that someone said something critical about this blog's posters -- ON ANOTHER BOARD.
I was pointing out the irony that people HERE are just as guilty of being judgmental and your recent post just proves my point!
The "secret club" nonsense, is especially revealing.
The only clique that I've noticed here is the one formed by some "old-timers" who feel the need to moderate, direct, critique, lavish praise or issue expletive-laden dismissals to those of us who joined more recently (regardless of how long we've been reading this blog)and/or don't toe the company line.
Everyone's opinions should be welcomed and no one should be talked down to.
yeah. Maybe we're all tired. Ent seemed to imply that Timmy had been identified. I'm too lazy to go back and find everyone's guesses - I know there are some good ones, besides Merrill and Blake.
RE Blake and the photo with the other impersonators - Blake was 5'7" so says a primary source (who of course could be wrong). Those others were little guys. Maybe it's one of them? But I thought I'd checked them out and they didn't fit for one reason or another.
Too tired of it all.
Somebody get Timmy, will ya?
Standing Bear wrote:
"Everyone's opinions should be welcomed and no one should be talked down to."
Riiiiight....that's why when I expressed my opinion that I don't care for the message board here you were not only judgmental you called me out by name.
I guess you mean we're all entitled to YOUR opinion.
I wasn't part of the fray that took place last night, so using my posts as an example of how people can't along here was shit stirring among the people here. I expressed an opinion you say should be welcomed without anyone being talked down to. Talk about hypocrisy.
Twisted,
Who do you think was Timmy?
Dire, I haven't a clue on that one. I think Shimmy is AB.
yeah. That seems to be the question of the day. Who the heck was Timmy. And, I guess, does it matter.
Wow! I can’t believe everyone came up with the right reasons why. Cudos to you all!! And I can’t call shenanigans even with any red herrings. Those only made us learn more stuff. Look at all the posts with nothing to do with Timmy showing us Hollywood weirdness we never knew. That was worth all the reading time. I read most all comments but those weekends really threw me behind. And then there was my own lame research that sent me in circles but was really interesting and fun.
Angela, how did you do that?!!? Bien feit! Amazing guess or you must know something. Thanks for your update! Ditto Dire Pototoe!! And Dire Potatoe, way to put things together! Most enjoyable!!
Interesting thread here too. Alcohol and sugar at night. Caffeine and sugar in the morning. Carry on all.
Yes, best BI ever, fact or fiction! I know all the other bloggers are jealous, as well they should be. I can’t wait for the reveal, Thursday morning for me. Don’t you know I’m just dying to pull it up on my blackberry Wednesday night!! Can’t wait for the next old Hollywood mystery so bring it on Ent!
I don't think it was Arthur Blake, however. I'm just not seeing it.
Arthur takes a real stretch of the imagination. But it would be great. I'm rooting for him.
This is driving me nutz! I went through every actress that received an AA from the first through the 30th - and although Alice Brady fits as far as not doing much after her win...How do you explain that she was the daughter of B'way producer William Brady? That's not exactly a bio where "facts weren't always checked thoroughly back in those days"....argh *pulls hair out*
I was on the Kay Kendall bandwagon, until ET said she won an Academy Award - back to square one *sighs*
Twisted, me neither. He doesn't look like a slight man to me.
Had a look at the Survivor Sucks thread on this, and my god are some people rude! Most of the posts are interesting, but there were a couple that were quite nasty about this site. Anyway, I'm not trying to start another argument, just thought I'd share my opinion.
*one more then I'm done for awhile*
As others have said again and again, How about if William Brady was in on the ruse? Check out his possible motives for supporting a sham Alice. They're strong.
And KK was notted by Ent awhile ago.
Sucks is nasty about everything. That's its charm.
:)
I don't think anyone should be taking credit for solving anything yet. We don't know the whole story at all. And coming to work to have to sort through dozens of inflamatory posts was really frustrating. No need to explode now, and really, who cares what some internet nerd who can't even spell a simple word has to say? This isn't life, this is just some message board.
Anyway, I still think that Timmy created Shimmy. I just can't reconcile the clues (or non-clues, apparently) we were given with the AB theory that has sprung up. I guess I'll have to wait and see.
I agree with the Alice Brady guess (finally).
On the website with the Alice Brady photo gallery (The silent-movies page in the google search) there is a photo in the 3rd row. 2nd from the right.
It clearly is not like any of the other photos. The nose is long and pointed, where the other photos have the nose quite rounded. And the upper lip alos doesnt match
To me, this is a photo clearly of a man.
I believe this is the Shimmy/Timmy photo.
Thanks for a great 2 wks
bramblewitch: can you post your photoshopped Brady/Merrill/Blake image to Flickr or another image site? I am interested in seeing it.
2nding the suggestion upthread to read standingbear's Top 10 List of Things I Learned While Researching T/S here:
http://p068.ezboard.com/fcrazydaysandnightsfrm9.showMessageRange?topicID=94.topic&start=176&stop=200
Sucks is a snark site, like TWOP (Television Without Pity) and not for everybody.
I never even began looking at who Timmy could have been because I didn't have any starting point of reference and I don't think Timmy is going to be someone we can find easily without some real clues. The 'good friends with Katharine Hepburn' was a good clue, but I don't think it brought us there.
Haha. Sorry, have to share: From the Sucks site:
"TWOP is like rolling around in a bed of feathers."
"Sucks is like rolling around in a bed of broken glass."
TWOP doesn't allow personal attacks on other posters, though ... and they police that very rigorously.
How crazy would it be if my conspiracy theory was right? That William Brady lost all his money from the Depression, hired a new Alice Brady to get more money, to perform a new play, etc etc. I mean, that's motive right there. Money makes people do crazy things.
I'm so proud of everyone! *BIG HUGS*
I'm losing eye sight in my left eye, I hope I'll be able to read the Timmy reveal tomorrow :( It's hard enough to read the comments! (I have MS)
Oh fiddlesticks...never mind...Randolph Scott was married twice!!! *sigh* ;)
Dire, I guess I underestimated it. Sucks is premium warrior snark and TWOP is just playin' at it snark.
Calla, people guessed him and then disqualified him because he's been married and the blind said 'never married'. And you're right about TWOP not allowing personal attacks. They also ban your ass if they think you're boards on boards - whatever the fuck that means.
BTW, has anyone come to the conclusion to who "TIMMY" is? Considering the majority is naming Alice Brady as the Shimmy.
I'm going to delete my Randolph Scott comment since it's ... well, worthless. ;)
boards on boards ... hmmm... ok ... not sure what that means. :)
Calla, it's their stupid way of saying you can't talk about what is going on in the forum while you're posting, and there's a fine line that's easy to cross over. You can say, "I disagree with all of you who said x should win the race" but you can't say, "All of you saying x is going to win the race are spoiling the fun of the forum."
Deja,
Here's a repost of what Myrlin posted upthread regarding the two most likely contenders:
Walter Merrill: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6cgpdmv . You also can see him in "Parlor, Bedroom, and Bath": http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6857291115012032177&q=%22parlor%2C+bedroom%2C+and+bath%22&total=8&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Arthur Blake: http://phantomdragon.com/THELEGEND/blake.htm
can be seen in "Cyrano de Bergerac" at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2552960613475355341&q=%22Cyrano+de+bergerac%22
Oh yeah, TWOP can get pretty militant with their rules...and sometimes that bugs me, but on the whole I appreciate it since it keeps things on topic.
There have gotta be more Timmy contenders than that. Aren't there?
And then there was TWOPsucks which was changed to Brilliant But Bitter and has a sub-forum for special members and TWOPsuckssucks which was changed to Lyle Lovett's Needs. Gotta love the internet. It's just one giant maze of fucked up.
These were mentioned but I don't know how far people got in tying them to Timmy -
Ben Hall
Robert Moore
Will B. Able
EL eliminated George Noisom.
If we are going to entertain the idea that its AB and we need Timmy then let's pick a picture of the imposter Alice and see if it looks like anybody. I thought all her pictures looked alike except maybe for one and even that one resembled some early ones. So have one of the AB experts pick the one and give us a link. What else do we have to do at this point?
That's right. I forgot Timmy was Step n Fetchit.
Gillian, i've uploaded my Brady/Blake/Merrill photo to Flickr as you suggested, I never thought i'd think that Brady looked like Blake, but she kind've does.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13780000@N04/1403045670/
ent eliminated R Moore
budford said...
If we are going to entertain the idea that its AB and we need Timmy then let's pick a picture of the imposter Alice and see if it looks like anybody. I thought all her pictures looked alike except maybe for one and even that one resembled some early ones.
I've been firmly on the AB train from the beginning - the only real possibilities I considered were AB and Kay Kendall till she was notted, but even then, I leaned far more heavily toward AB - and while I haven't poured over every single AB picture ever, I haven't seen any two that are different enough to make me gasp and say "hey, that's two different people!" All young AB pics vs all old AB pics I've examined look similar enough that they could very well be the same person. Specifically, I'm thinking of when gillian superimposed an older pic onto a younger one almost a week ago (wow, time flies). This makes me wonder, although it doesn't fit with Ent's clues exactly, about the family resemblance factor, and AB's brother.
I'd also like to say how much I have enjoyed this BI, along with most of your comments and amazing research, it's truly been a pleasure to read. It couldn't have come at a better time - my only child went off to university at the beginning of the month, so this has given me something to obsess about in her absence. I don't know how many times I've started reading comments, which lead to my own research and looking up links that were posted, and then I looked up from the computer and suddenly it was 3 am. Too many nights like that! I've learned so much. So, thanks Ent, and thanks to you all.
Here's a HQ image of Alice Brady from 1916:
http://www.doctormacro.info/Images/Brady,%20Alice/Brady,%20Alice%20(Bought%20and%20Paid%20For)_01.jpg
Also, there are quite a few Alice Brady pics here:
http://triptych.brynmawr.edu/index.php
For some reason I can't get all the Alice Brady pics to come up with my search...someone posted a link that had FAR more results than what I'm getting. Can anyone make it work? There were some very old close-ups of Alice brady, and then some later pics that were mostly from a distance.
It doesn't seem like this link has come up very much in the comments, and so I wanted to repost it because it had a lot of pics that a lot of people here probably haven't seen.
Calla - http://silent-movies.com/Ladies/PBrady.html
Thanks, Hello Kitty - it's been hard to keep up with all the posts.
Shimmy= Bessie Love. I think some of Ents hints were to send us in a certain direction, in order to follow more clues. Katharine Hepburn adored him = Spencer Tracy. Google Spencer Tracy, Click on the third entry down "the mave.com". Click "Enter". Click "visit Bijou Follies- 50 yrs. of movie magazine". Click on pic. Click "enter". First row= 1920's. 1st pic is Bessie Love.
Following along with everyone's work/research has been fantastic.
I like the AB guess.
Check out certain differences in the signature on these movie posters. 2 of them are alot more similar than one of them.
http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_product.asp?cmio=&sku=368505&master%5Fmovie%5Fid=17733
Timmy as an actor and actress was in over 100 films and theatre productions... but this is about one role and one award.
Last night, Scot said:
It's my opinion that Timmy only played the role of Alice Brady once: the Oscar winning role in "In Old Chicago" All of the pics and the links to clips are of the real Alice Brady. This Alice Brady must have wanted to carry on but cancer...
Timmy was just a well known huckster that stepped in for ONE ROLE ONLY.
Then David said:
I'm quite certain that the Alice Brady in the movie In Old Chicago is the same person who later played in Young Mr. Lincoln. I have both movies on DVD. I also own My Man Godfrey, 100 Men and a Girl, The Gay Divorcee.
I believe that they are all Alice.
Then farygica said:
I don't believe that Timmy created his new persona so he could BE Alice Brady. It just happened that he would do "very well" as Alice Brady because the studio needed one pronto to finish a film. Was it becasue AB got sick, did she die, did she refuse to join the union???
Still trying to pound square pegs into round holes here... The Two Shimmy/ AB-A/B theory (feel free to bash):
Timmy, after spending a couple years touring as a female impersonator, returns to Hollywood, aces his screen test and spends the next few years playing supporting roles in B-films, serials whatever. With Wm Haines' advice and support. This is B-Shimmy.
Meanwhile over on the main lot, Alice Brady (for example) cannot finish filming... My Man Godfrey? In Old Chicago? and Timmy steps in to impersonate her for part of the film (don't you love how I can propose this without ever having seen the film?). This is A-Shimmy. This role garners a lot of attention and now he's got several personalities to juggle thus the hives.
I'm basing this --very shakily-- on the substitute that was needed when Jean Harlow died before finishing Saratoga. The stand-in was used for long shots only (been a long time since I saw it). What if A-Shimmy only stood in for a few scenes in Old Chicago? The studio wanted to conceal AB's condition and did not want it known that a stand-in was used.
I know, not really scandalous. Also doesn't address the unmarried A-Lister, who by my theory, would have to have been in a B-film with B-Shimmy. And further muddies the waters with another Shimmy to hunt down.
On a side note: last night I dug out my old VHS tape of My Man Godfrey --one of my top three favorite films of all time-- and rewatched the first half hour or so... AB did not stand still for a second, there are no closeups, it's a tape with poor resolution... but she just doesn't look like any of the photos posted.
Sorry for the length. Bramblewitch, thanks for the link, I'll check that out now.
Tammy,
I don't think the Bessie Love fits. Her career went on too long after her win regardless of the long break inbetween.
I too have thought about the Hepburn/Tracy thing. I tried to attempt to see if any of Hepburns roommates were ever published in thinking that She may have been Shimmy's roommate which could be why she adored him.
WOW! As soon as I saw Walter Merrill I thought of Alice Brady.
what I meant to write is the "other" roommate besides JJ's wife could have been Hepburn...just a thought...
I know someone already compared pics of AB, AB dragQueen, and Walter Merrill, but I chopped WM's picture to his face, and compared it with the picture of AB(not the drag queen AB...atleast as far as we know yet :) that I think is the most different/manly looking...what yall think:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/andmydayisrad/abtheory.jpg
Here's a picture that's finally made me pause and wonder if it's a different AB - 2nd row, 3rd from left:
http://silent-movies.com/Ladies/PBrady.html
It's old and grainy and hard to tell for sure, though.
I also noticed, in that picture and in the one 3rd row, 2nd from right, her neck appears much thicker than it does in other pictures. Or maybe I'm grasping at straws, and just seeing what I want to see. At this point, I'm not even sure.
http://i32.photobucket.com/
albums/d37/andmydayisrad/abtheory.jpg
sorry, thats the rest of it.
Google "Bessie Love Gallery".In the first photo she has an adam's apple!
in this one she totally looks like John Belushi when he played in animal house.
http://silent-movies.com/Ladies/Brady/Brady06.jpg
Bessie Love died April 26, 1986. She was in 131 TV & films.
yeah...but she didnt win...she does have an adam's apple though...or maybe just one of those scary skinny necks.
I totally agree...That's it!!! Timmy WAS John Belushi!!!! LOL
I swore Kay Kendall had an adam's apple, but then I remembered - so does Ann Coulter.
wow, I suck at being a homemaker...I have been on my doggone laptop the last week trying to solve clues on Timmy while our home is being ignored. I serve the family silly stupid 5 min. meals (we're talking canned ravioli, quickie ceasar salad, sandwiches etc.) I actually enjoy cooking.
:0(
sigh, and to top it off, just as I wrote this, the dog just threw up on the carpet...welcome to my life...LOL.
I actually thought the whole dog thing was real-you can tell it's been a long day and that I skim read this post!! LOL....
Oh my goodness...this is exciting...only one more day to go! In a way I don't want it to be over -as odd as that sounds-because I've got so used to following the Timmy thing that I'll feel a bit lost and not know what to do with myself ;)
Well done everyone on your sterling efforts!!
The two Alice Bradys are side by side on this site, http://timmy-shimmy.blogspot.com/
Did Ent ever confirm that Shimmy won an Academy Award? I thought it was more of, or did she? Bessie Love was nominated for an Acacemy Award in 1929.
Since we're going through our AB photo albums, I have just *got* to re-post Ed's screenshot from The Gay Divorcee...it freaks me out, LOL!!
imtiredsotired:
something about the chin/jawline brings to mind WM when I look at the two smiles...here, look:
http://www.securitycurve.com/abrady/alice_brady_is_a_man.jpg
helena u are so right...thatis totally Walter Merrill
Hey Molly?
Beth has been here since the place first opened; she even tried to get me and some other folks interested in it. I'm just normally not a blind item kind of gal.
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Oh and for the record when Tres Gay over there came and posted some big insult to the posters here under the name I Am the Road Warrior everyone there high fived each other and Beth aka Redundently Redundent wrote "I'm as proud as a syphilitic mother hen, Tres!"
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I'm glad you like my work enough to follow me home :) You remain unworthy of the syphilitic vaginal discharge of a crack whore. If you were in the desert and dying of thirst I would offer you the juice from my dog's impacted anal glands ... but only because I am not a monster. For the same reasons I would gladly pee on you if you were on fire.
Much love,
Tres
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Looking over photos in the AB silent movies photo gallery, it looks like, at different times, WM & Arthur Blake may have impersonated Alice Brady. Wouldn't that be something!
Seriously, everyone, let it fucking go.
So has anyone heard the rumor that Alice Brady was actually a guy?
nadiakotsev:
Isn't it weird when you see the two (AB & WM) smiling like that? The teeth, the lips...it's very weird...even if it's not WM, it's strange...
helena,
i think that movie still solved it...walter merrill did it, with the persona Alice Brady, in Hollywood...
yeah...i was all for that one theory though, that jonathan harris was josephine Hull, cause they did look like the same person...
but...it was not to be.
wow...just looked at that movie still and the pic of WM again...
I think that maybe Timmy.
You know, I thought of Bessie Love a long time ago, but dismissed her, because it seemed that her career was too long, and her death too well documented.
What made me think of her was that she was in The Lost World, a silent film based on the Arthur Conan Doyle book, that had special effects no one had ever seen before (LIVE DINOSAURS!), created by Willis O'Brian, who would later do King Kong. This was the first time stop-motion was used to create whole creatures, and long sequences, with lots of miniatures and back screen projection.
Stop-motion animation remained state-of-the-art until Jurassic Park. It was used for quite a lot of Star Wars, and to create the fleshless cyborg walking scenes in Terminator.
I'm going on like this, because of the statement that in Shimmy's films, people saw things they'd never seen before.
I hate to be a skeptic, but have you guys considered that Ent might have just let you all determine the answer to the BI and write the entire explanation for him?
Trust me, I want this to be true as much as the next person, and I'm fascinated by all the research that has gone into this...I just really hope it isn't a big hoax.
I'll be the first to congratulate Ent on such a fabulous blind item if this is actually legit and he has the proof to back it up!
I don't post often and so admire all the Timmy research you all have been doing. I did a little myself today since Arthur Blake has been discussed as a possible Timmy. There is a link to a picture of Arthur with 3 other female impersonators, one of whom is slight and blonde and labeled "Lynne Carter, " also known as Lynn Carter. What I can discover about Lynne Carter is that he was born in 1924 in NYC and died in 1985 of AIDS.
Here is what someone said about him, "Lynn Carter was a lovely man. In semiretirement and in declining health, but show biz through and through, he was a gracious host in the Madeira Room, greeting people warmly, full of hilarious asides and jokes. Had he been straight, repressed, and ordinary -- not that those things necessarily go hand in hand -- he might have been a sweet and kindly bank manager somewhere in Kansas."
I thought the Knasas comment was interesting. I have diligently read all the Timmy posts but am bleary now about the T guesses. Has Lynn(e) Carter been discussed/dismissed?
Hey Road Warrior... Go somewhere else! Pig!
Lynne Carter was dismissed ages ago.
Thanks ana! I won't waste time in that direction then.
I've been on the AB train from the beginning and still something bugs me. The pale features. Yes AB/Walter Merrill (if he's Timmy) appears to be pretty fair skinned...but the eyes and hair (wig or not) were dark? That's been bugging me the whole time. Thoughts anyone? Because truthfully AB and WM look alike enough for my nongambling self to put my last five dollars on...but in the back of my mind I'm thinking of those pale features. Maybe I'm just Timmied out and can't think straight anymore.
The problem with Lynne Carter, FTR, is that he was well known as a drag queen. There was no secret about it. He performed for mostly gay audiences (and other fans of drag), and as far as I can tell, never had a career doing regular male roles.
Also, just for a laugh, the first time I saw Arthur Blake suggested, I misread it, and thought "WHAT!? DAGWOOD?"
Wow C, what a find. Even if he is ruled out not to be Timmy, what an interesting fella. The best part of figuring out all this T/S stuff is the info gained along the way.
http://phantomdragon.com/THELEGEND/carter.htm
Here is a link to some Alice Brady photos that femconsult posted, and I am reposting the link because I don't think very many people have seen these pics.
Check them out; you won't regret it!!
Alice Brady Photos in the NYPL Digital Library
I don't know how anyone could say Alice Brady wasn't beautiful.
Dawn,
Your second pic was the one that I thought looked different, but I still think the eyes seem the same.
Wasn't Walter somewhat of a tough picture find? I can't remember. The picture posted here reminds me of the picture of the Haines group that was badly captioned but led you to believe that the pointy nose guy was Jimmy Sheilds. That's what this picture of Walter reminds me of.
Ok, I don't mean to stir the pot with this one, but a thought just occured to me. Just thinking about the whole Lynne Carter thing (again, sorry). The BI is quoted as stating:
"What he could do though was return to the theatre, and he did so, as a man and worked as a man until his death from AIDS related complications."
Lynne Carter WAS a man, a well known MAN who made his legit living as a female impersonator. He could sing, he was small, I mean he seems to fit the rest of the bill perfectly. This way he could do what he loved, theatre, dress as a woman (for whatever personal reason) and not have to hide it. Less stress, less skin conditions... Once again, if thought was already brought up and dismissed long ago, whoops.
Jolara,
Lynne Carter is one of a few that played Shimmies. I just couldn't find any awards. Port of New York is a movie in which he played a female character.
Thanks Jolara. That's what I was thinking and he fits the original description of having a way of capturing an audience unlike anything most people had seen previously. Maybe that first time he took on a female role, he recognized that he had the potential to be a female impersonator and this was his destiny. And at that time most people had not seen that type of review/theater.
? Maybe I am confused?
I guess I need to do more research and less posting beforehand. I was thinking that Timmy-the man could be LC and Shimmy was AB.
C-YES! That is exactly what I am attempting to convey. I think he played AB- enjoyed it, but had medical issues etc. Left hollywood and started over as a MAN doing female impressions because he was good at it. No one had to know he was once Alice. Life was better this way, he got his cake and he could eat it too.
Jolara,
Why not? He could have been Timmy.
Wow! You guys are machines. I just don't have the willpower to go the lengths with this Bi. Excited to see what Ent reveals. Props to whoever got it right!
Ent the clock's ticking...we're foaming at the mouth here!
You know jolara, you could be right. I'm staring at pics of AB and LC next to each other and unless i'm starting to see things, they are starting to look alike. My only problem is that his eyes aren't quite as wide open as hers. I wish we had side by side videos.
Jo and C,
I came across him while looking at the Jewel Box Review. I was looking for the elusive roommate. I would think he was in the review first, but hey, maybe not.
I can't take credit on this idea, C- started it, I just stumbled and ran with it somemore, but I think our idea is on the same wave length.
J and C,
That was the thought from the beginning with the female impersonators. Lynn(e) Carter was born in Cleveland OH somewhere around 1925 or so. He died of AIDS in 1985 when he was 60. He would have been 12 at the time of Alice Brady.
The way you interpreted Ent's description of Timmy on stage is what led to the Blake guess. I couldn't find another impersonator that fit the bill, so to speak...
But also keep in mind that female impersonation is an OLD art, not something new and novel to the 20s-30s. Way, way back..
atm said 'I hate to be a skeptic, but have you guys considered that Ent might have just let you all determine the answer to the BI and write the entire explanation for him? Trust me, I want this to be true as much as the next person, and I'm fascinated by all the research that has gone into this...I just really hope it isn't a big hoax. I'll be the first to congratulate Ent on such a fabulous blind item if this is actually legit and he has the proof to back it up!'
Actually this has been put forward before, particularly w/ the whole ZX thing. Reading the comments about that it seems that was a major problem for some former fans the "reveal" was copy/pasted from a poster on the board and there NEVER was any proof. There are other problems w/ other blinds & reveals if you go back & look. It's kind of funny actually. My favorite: an actress/singer pushing an A List model off a stage while dancing. The reveal was priceless: Paris Hilton & an unknown Canadian model who worked for the SAME company as Hez (regular & the moderator on the board) at the time!
Claudiasfix's comment earlier said it best for me. It's entertaining
fiction (bottom of page)but alot of people enjoy it anyway.
I have looked through the cast lists of what I hope is all the hollywood musicals from 1928 - 1931 (working on the AB theory - re-starts movies 1933, minus 2 years on stage) and come up with zero.
The only person who fit in any way was Nick Lucas 'tip toe through the tulips' and I can't see it being him
Gonna have to wait till the reveal now as my head is going to explode.
Barbette and Kim August also played female roles. No awards. That's why I think the blind is possible. They're all over the place.
As I've stated earlier, even if AB turns out not to be Timmy, we sure have found out that there's something up with AB. There's a story there. I also looked up those signatures on her photos and they are soo different. Not even close. Two of the signature are very much alike and the third is completely different. Shimmy did not do his homework when he started autographs as AB!!
Hi Jolara:
I was intrigued by your Lynne Carter theory so I checked into him again.
When I went to the phantomdragon website, the only picture of him I saw that could resemble Alice Brady was the one of Lynne Carter with two other actors from the film "Port of New York". I got excited to see a potential AB candidate, then checked her info on IMDB.
Then, I realized why I had discarded Lynne Carter when he first came up -- the Lynne Carter in "Port of New York" was an actress that once was married to William Talman (Hamilton Burger of Perry Mason). The phantomdragon website must have made a mistake (!) when they put that picture on the female impersonator Lynne Carter's webpage.
If someone's already brought this up I apologize -- I couldn't wade through all the posts to find the original Lynne Carter discussion.
I just want to say I had a lovely time with everyone working on this...I'll never believe it's AB but it sure was a lot of fun.
Awww, shucks! I think I will wait until tomorrow too (famous last words). WAY too many possibilities. So here was my story on what may have been...
ok, for arguements sake Lynne Carter (maybe he gave a wrong birth date?) was attempting to make it into theatre but because of his frame, he wasn't being taken seriously enough to get any leading male roles. So he gets a break and lands a leading part for an actress who couldn't perform and dresses as a woman and did fantastic. AB's father, the producer what's his name sees the show and hires Timmy to take over for Alice professionally who cannot continue work due to illness or whatever. So Timmy, who must be sworn to secrecy or risk being blacklisted performs as AB. Does great until fame hit hard,questions were asked and stress levels were elevated leading his health to go down. AB's father (the big producer) decides that continuing the charade wasn't working anymore when he wasn't being profitable for the company due to his skin condition worsening. So Timmy leaves and goes back "home". Only to return a couple of years later on the stage to do what he feels he does best, perform as a female impersonator. He can sing, he can dance, he entertains and everyone loves him. As Lynne gets older, he chooses to just work in the theatres behind the scenes, whatever, where one day he dies from an AIDS related illness. The End. :0)
I know, I know. Lynne has already been deleted as a Timmy suspect. I was just sharing my interpretation of things.
Jolara: At this point, your theory is as good as any other out there. It will be very interesting to see how ENT weaves his story to fit all the clues he fed us!
I don't have anything to add - I just wanted to say thanks for the entertainment the last week or so. (I'm glad this is my last week of work here otherwise I'd be canned for negligence, refreshing this site all day.)
It's so nice to see internet debate on a topic that's a- not attacking someone and b- not about a flash in the pan modern *celebrity*.
The amount of research and time put into this astounds me and you guys deserve a HUGE pat on the back for everything - correct guess or not.
Eileen, it may NOT be AB. Or Margaret Rutherford, for that matter. What did EL say about red herrings?
Off topic - hung jury in the Phil Spector trial??!!! HUH?
megan said...
"The amount of research and time put into this astounds me..."
Yeah, Megan, that just hit me when you wrote that. The hours people have put into this - working together (for the most part) - with few feathers ruffled (also for the most part) is amazing. If we could put the braintrust toward something positive that actually mattered (though may not be as fun), imagine what we could accomplish.
(cue John Lennon's "Imagine"....)
TW I kind hope it's someone juicier.
Alison, got any suggestions? Like someone with more fame? Who? WHO?
TS,
Off topic, maybe if he gets off he can produce a song for Amy Winehouse. That was his style.
Budford, yeah, she's so 60's. Who would want to work with him, though? I'd be afraid he'd take his gun out, and no, I mean a real gun, so get yer mind outta the gutter.
I still don't understand why Timmy would have taken the secret with him to the grave. Why in the world wouldn't he have wanted the whole world to know his secret?
I can't imagine any kind of performer not contacting reporters near the end of his life and saying, "Have I got a story for you! Come on over to my place with your tape recorder."
It baffles me that Timmy, who apparently gloried in the spotlight, would not seek the ultimate claim to fame: being part of the biggest Oscar story of all time.
Oklahoma, I think there may be a couple of reasons. Maybe Timmy was private. Maybe he was afraid he'd embarrass loved ones. But most of all, I wonder how Timmy felt. He had an average career as a man and a stellar career as a woman. This might have played with his mind a little. Maybe it was a frustration rather than a thing of pride.
Twisted Sister said...
If we could put the braintrust toward something positive that actually mattered (though may not be as fun), imagine what we could accomplish.
ENT SHOULD BE A VERY WORRIED MAN IF THIS IS NOT VERY VERY GOOD !!
Meant to add LOL
Oklahoma I've struggled with that as well. In the 1980's I worked in and around the New York Theatre. Theatre people love to perform and tell stories. I can almost picture an older Timmy sitting in a gay piano bar night after night telling the same old story over and over to any one who would listen as the alcohol flowed freely...:)
I've wondered the same thing as several of you regarding why this story hasn't come to light before now. Especially if the 'why' involves the Williams Haines/revenge angle, I would think that the deception would have been revealed shortly after the fact, in order to embarrass LB Mayer.
But if the WHY was that William Brady (father) found a new Alice Brady as a new 'cash cow' as he was broke and something had happened to the original. Then perhaps not many people at the studio knew and the William Haines connection could be a red herring.
Melster...lol is right.
Dawn, what if Timmy was getting money to keep his mouth closed?
oklahoma.1234 said...
It baffles me that Timmy, who apparently gloried in the spotlight, would not seek the ultimate claim to fame: being part of the biggest Oscar story of all time.
Maybe it had something to do with filing false info re social security / union pension / tax returns. Or that he walked off with an Oscar statuette all those years ago. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science? Those guys are relentless.
Maybe Alice/Shimmy couldn't attend the Oscars because of an outbreak of hives.
melster, it could very well could be that the 'why' had to do with William Brady Sr, and that the motivation was greed. For some reason, the Williams Haines mentoring hint rang true to me. Maybe that's simply because I was taken with Haines' and Shields' against all odds-type love story, and what was given up by Haines for the relationship. I'm a sucker for things like that. ;) It's always possible that Haines mentored Timmy anyway, on behalf of Brady Sr, and the 'why' has nothing to do with revenge on Haines' part...or, that the main reason was greed, and Haines agreed to help for his own reasons.
twisted, in my little revenge scenario, the point I was trying to make is that it would make no sense to keep it quiet if the motivation was a big "screw you" toward Mayer. But as I said above, I'm not stuck on any one particular theory as to the 'whys,' there are several that sound plausible, and make sense to me. I'm so excited about hearing the whole story tomorrow! :)
To my surprise, I was able to rent both In Old Chicago and My Man Godfrey earlier today. I'm looking forward to watching them.
Why in the world wouldn't he have wanted the whole world to know his secret?
If Timmy was a substitute and not a "created" actress persona, maybe the real actress was still alive at the time he died and he liked/respected her too much to reveal their shared secret.
Twisted Sister I just went on another one of my typical Timmy roller coaster ride...my first reaction to your comment was YES! he was being paid to keep quiet! That I can get behind. And then...er..by whom? Who would be paying him? The Brady's? Wouldn't they all be dead?...You see, I try. I really do want to believe.
twisted,
Duh, I just realized what you meant, that the motive could have been revenge, that the deception was made known to Mayer, and that Mayer then paid off those involved not to make it public, to avoid greater public embarrassment. Great point, yes, that very well could be.
I just clued in to your meaning after I walked away from my computer. Maybe I should try doing that a little more often. ;) Sorry for my confusion!
Thank you Dimes! I can buy that as a reason.
TW Sadly no. :( Nothing adds up with the ones I WANTED it to be. But with all the red herrings, maybe, just maybe ;-)
I have sure learned a lot about other actresses/actors from all the research.
Eileen, paid off by Mayer, if that's whom he was trying to embarrass. Just an out there thought...a little too wild to be true.
Dawn, don't apologize! I'm always confuzzled myself. I don't think that's the scenario, but at this point, I think it's like pasta. We'll just throw everything against the wall and see what sticks.
Alison, I've loved the process behind the blind. We've learned so much and are still on a mission to learn more.
Do you ladies realize what a long afternoon we're in for tomorrow??? How many times will we go to the home page and hit the refresh button, do you think?
I can't wait for the reveal!!!! Thanks Ent!!!!
I have to say, it's been a real pleasure working with all of you in this. Everyone has been so nice.
Special thanks to Twisted and a few other people who tried continually to keep everyone "on track"
As long as everyone is so pleasant, and as long as we have blind items like these, I'll be back, and so will a lot of other "lurkers" that joined.
twisted, I sit here and refresh an embarrassing amount just for daily hints - once it gets close to the time that he normally posts, probably every few minutes. Tomorrow for the reveal, I would imagine that minutes will be switched for seconds. The next day, it'll be Timmy rehab for me.
QUOTE:
"I can't imagine any kind of performer not contacting reporters near the end of his life and saying, 'Have I got a story for you! Come on over to my place with your tape recorder.'"
He may not have revealed it earlier, because he didn't want to out the A-list gay actor, and especially after all the people were blacklisted in the 1950s.
He probably expected to live longer than he did, and may have planned to write a book "someday," then when he realized he was dying, may have stayed away from reporters because he may not have wanted people to know he had AIDS. This was the mid-1980s, remember; even gay men were abandoning friends with AIDS. There may not have been much time between diagnosis and death, for him as well, because the average back then was 15 months, and for someone his age, it may have been shorter.
That's all speculation, though. It does seem unlikely that, were Timmy Lynne Carter, this would all have stayed secret.
Long-time lurker. Have enjoyed (read: been obsessed) with this. I also initially thought about doing research and found others doing it light speeds ahead of me (do any of you work jobs?)
Great work everyone. Dire - your 2AB theory was genius and was what really sparked a lot of enthusiasm here - great work. I also understand the hardcore researcher's frustration when people comment, without having read the original BI even, for the hundredth time only to make absurd guesses or ignore posts that have been dissected more than thoroughly, though 98% of the time people were patient and kind to each other.
The research and exposure to information was great. I was especially happy to see the books of William Mann getting much-deserved attention (especially Wisecracker and Behind the Screen).
I would love for it to be Alice Brady, but if it is so without sufficient proof, I think we'll all have been had. Still, what a wonderfully entertaining way to be had.
My last guess, though it makes no sense, is Fay Bainter. Nawww. Damn. Sh**. Help!
I have never really been on the Alice Brady train...but her IMDB photo is really weird. It does not look like any photo that I've ever seen of her on the other sites. Plus she's wearing a hat with a veil that partially obscures her features. She looks very much like a man in this pic. What do you think?
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0103567/HH/0103567/iid_1343729.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Brady,%20Alice
Twisted, tomorrow is going to be an exercise in patience for sure. But worse, I can’t imagine life after Timmy :). I wish somehow the few remaining stars of the era could be rounded up for the purpose of soliciting BI's that would require this sort of in-depth research. Heaven knows, as we have all learned, there would be plenty of material for them to draw upon.
Carla, thanks for the shout out but I don't think I really did much. I appreciate the kind words, though!
Dawn, maybe we should run out tonight and get Timmy patches for everyone. Whatever will we do with this extra time?
Eileen, I hear you! That's the saddest thing about this for me, was finding out how very screwed up some of my favorite stars were. It's probably good I've been yanked out of denial, but ignorance really was bliss.
You never know....there may be another blind coming up in another month or so that requires this kind of research.
re: Lynne Carter as Timmy:
Check out this newspaper article.
ReRe, I'll see your Lynne and raise you an Arthur.
HERE
Charlie Chaplin was in the poster Legends of Hollywood. Sunset Blvd was the first picture of the blind...
:)
Tim,
I do have as job and if this went on any longer, I'd probably get the boot. I don't know what was more disconcerting, me being distracted or all the Lynn Carters on my screen as people went by.
Speaking of which, here is a link that I posted before, but everybody was so busy.
http://phantomdragon.com/THELEGEND/epilogue.htm
Tim said...
Long-time lurker. Have enjoyed...
OMG He's alive everybody! Timmy's still alive!
Hahahahahaha
Okay going back to sleep.
I love you all!
Holy Moly -- Ab really does look like a man in http://www.securitycurve.com/abrady/alice_brady_is_a_man.jpg!!
Yikes.
Gossip from Timmy/Shimmy's bygone era: Lizzie Borden did it!! I am sitting here suffering for the reveal of Timmy/Shimmy like the rest of you. I even posted with a guess of Bessie Love, to little response. My sweet great-grandma who lived in Fall River,Mass., used to tell anyone who would listen that Lizzie Borden was guilty and that everyone around there knew it. Apparently, she came from a very wealthy extended family, and they paid people off. It may not be Timmy, but atleast it will keep you going until tomorrow!
I'm so excited for the Timmy/Shimmy reveal tomorrow! I can't imagine who it would be besides AB. No one else seems to have such a good cover-up story.
Great job putting this one together!
I'm willing to admit I was originally on the Kay Kendall bandwagon.
I don't know that much about computers, but please tell me that this site will NOT crash when all of us start trying to access it every few minutes.
Nightmare scenario---we get word on another site that the reveal has been posted but we can't access it because the thing has crashed on us !!!!!
I don't mean to be petty, but if I see one more person spelling the word "career" as "carrier", I think I might throw my computer out the window!!!!
Hannah, I see it only once on this page and it's in a post from someone in another country. English may be a second language.
Shimmy said...
"I love you all!"
Oh, sure, now you tell us!
Fellow Posters:
I have learned so much from your research and thank you for listening and checking my work. It is funny but in college and grad school I hated group projects because there was always a couple of the “group members” who inevitably would do no work. I never felt that way here. Finally thank you to the posters who when I was very frustrated and tired with the whole BI thing- I would see your posts and how you kept going and then so did I.
I have never posted anywhere on the net before but I am glad I started with this BI.
EL:
Thanks for all of the fun (and the pain too)! This was such a great distraction from my crazy life. I would enjoy it every night when I was finally done with work for the day (and yes, I admit also sometimes during work) and I would escape into this wonderfully insane and messed up world of Timmy/ Shimmy.
I hope you have more sordid Blind detective stories for us in the future.
Whatever the way the BI turns out tomorrow thank you.
Well my autographed photo of Walter Merrill arrived yesterday. It says
"To Charley-with the best o' the best o' it.
Sincerely "Yes"
Wally Merrill '30"
I have looked over every square inch of it and haven't found a scar. Even though it is a black and white he looks to me like he had a pretty nice tan. His arms are not as hairy as it showed in the original links posted of the picture. There is a shadow that is running up beside his right arm that online looks like hair but isn't. His nails were manicured perfection.
Well, all in all I think he was a cutie and I know most everyone thought he was creepy. A strange purchase for me but I guess it will end up being a good story.
does anyone have any thoughts as to when exactly EL will do the reveal? cos i'm 17 hrs ahead of LA and sad sack as i am, am thinking of setting my alrm for it... or just waiting for my baby to wake me up.. LOL!
is it normal to be this excited? is anyone else? Even Cooper's Dad is looking forward to the reveal (i think that is more to do with the fact that he'd like his wife back - he he!)
jusshopn said...
Well, all in all I think he was a cutie and I know most everyone thought he was creepy.
I don't think anyone here thought he was creepy. I wish we had more photos of him though, to compare with AB. Or MR.
I know! I wish there were more pics of him too. I nearly fell outta my chair when I found that one on ebay of Merrill. I guess since he was always in bit parts it will be hard to scrap any photos up of him.
I can't wait to see who Timmy really ends up being.
This has been so much fun guys.
Cooper's Mom, it's anyone's guess. Lately he's been posting hints between 4:00 and 6:00 central time, but with reveals, he sometimes does them earlier in the day, although not before noon pacific time, I don't think. I'm guessing it will be between 2:00 and 4:00 central time.
Is there any other Walter Merrill photo available online other than this one?
thanks for that twisted, i always seem to be the last to join the party :( anyway will see how i go but prob just see it as soon as i get woken up!
Shimmy, You're a real piece of work! :)
P.S. Walter (a.k.a. Wally) Merrill started out as a double for Antonio Moreno, who was 5'8" and 170 lbs.
calla--I don't know how tall the "real" Alice Brady was, but in the trailer from "In Old Chicago" ( http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=%22in+old+chicago%22 ) she doesn't look more than a couple of inches shorter than Don Ameche (listed in imdb as 5'11").
Honestly, I have misgivings about Merrill as well (wish I could find a picture of William Brady Jr, Roger Davis, or Jimmy Cross) but I think he's the best candidate we've named. The reveal better have pics showing the famous scar, though!
One last thing. In the Walter Merrill pic, does anyone see something on the left side of his forehead?
Walter Merrill is kinda sexy in that photo in an old-dead-gay-actor kind of way.
Was Walter Merrill too tall to take over for Alice Brady?
He was kinda cute.
Thanks for the great entertainment..lots of hard work and great ideas...I'm on the road by 6AM Wednesday...and won't be at a computer til at least 8PM....my brain will 'splode without knowing the timmy/shimmy/jj outcome before then...love to all..can't wait for the next "vintage" BI
I can't wait for the reveal and have enjoyed every minute of this. Looks like a late night for me as am hours ahead.
Honestly guys, you've all done brilliantly!! i know we're all looking forward to tomorrow's reveal. Am glad to see things have calmed down after last night's bitch-fight;it was entertaining for about 2 seconds then got quite tedious, so glad we're back on track and focusing on T/shimmy, who is the real star of the show.
Cooper's mom, better to be late to the party than never to have gotten there at all...or something.
Where are you with the 17 hour difference? And I ask this knowing you've now gone to bed and may not see this question at all with all the activity that's about to happen today.
hey twisted, i'm in Brisbane, Australia and having had a look on the world clock i see its 17 hrs ahead of La la land. it's still only 10pm (wed night) so will be up for a few hrs more working (no rest for the wicked!)but i've worked out that by the time i get up tomorrow all should be revealed..... bring it on!!
Hey coopers mom - I'm in Toowoomba :) Small world LOL It had better be revealed when I get up because I am out for a lot of the day and it will kill me if I have to go out before the reveal LOL
These final hours are just dragging.
Cooper's Mom, EL mentioned once he got an email from a reader down under, was it you? How cool that he has fans from all over and we get to play together like this.
I think the time will go quicker for you since you'll be sleeping than it will be for those of us who are awake. Maybe we should all go take naps or something.
LOL! Well Twisted, you're right: ellebee and i prob have it a smidge easier seeing as we'll be snoozing... i'm not going to shutdown tonight so that when i get up i can rush in and have a look. i agree that it is really cool that Ent has fans all over the world and we get to meet like this, its fun and can certainly perk up your day :)
ellebee i reckon that certainly by 9am our time it will be revealed, if not earlier, so i really do hope you don't have to go a whole day before you find out.
well, kids, this has been fun i'm off to bed and will check on in tomorrow.
Coopers Mom,
How cool that you're in Brisbane - an old college friend lives there now and says she loves it. It's great that people all over the world have come together to work on this BI!
Shimmy-erry Timmy-ristmas everyone!! Can't wait....
waiting, waiting, don't know what to do with myself. Work? Nah.
Did he say WHEN today he would post the answer/story?
ali - no. He is not telling us when he will actually post it today.
Tick Tock Tick Tock...
Yours in Timmyness, y'all!
Ditto on all the global interest~ that's really cool. I think it's pretty impossible that the answer is going to live up to everyone's efforts though. But the fun was in the ride - EVERYONE contributed to this. Thanks, EntL.
I guess I was deluding myself when I woke up this morning thinking there would be pictures of Shimmy and Timmy on the front page of the blog. Oh well - Phil Spector and his beehive hairdo will have to suffice.
Actually, it's more Clay Aiken than Connie Stevens.
I believe Alice Brady was shimmy and Arthur Blake was Timmy. Her death is listed as 1939 with 79 movies. Arthur blake made 18 movies and was a famous female impersonator. He began in movies as an uncredited part in 1936, and died in 1985 and was from Altoona, Penn. I believe that William Haines was the early lover of Shimmy. Any opinions?
How can it be Alice Brady/Arthur Blake if Alice's credits begin in 1914?
Blake had to have lied abouit his birthdate? That's the closest I can come to identifying them. I'm a first timer, but this has been exscrutiatingly fun...now I am hooked.
I took off today! LOL
OK we need to organize and strike. NO more posts until we get what we want - Timmy. Not even about PS. LOL
although with the baiting that will be tough.
But too bad. No more!!!
LOL
Right!
NO MORE POSTS till Timmy!
Count me in.
Hahaa....
It's funny to see grown up like people lying on the floor, stamping their feet and pounding their fists crying, "TIMMY!!!!"
Me? I just went and cut all my hair off 'cuz it's taking too long.
Actually, in one of my many hours of desperation, I actually considered Moe for Timmy. He has a screwed up nose and his mom dressed him in girl's clothes until he cut off his own hair with a bowl, resulting haircut becoming his trademark.
I'm a dedicated lurker and have been following this mystery since the beginning. I was obsessed at first and have started losing interest since I'm not completely excited over the prospect of Timmy/Shimmy turning out to be Alice Brady. I wanted it to be somebody *shocking*!
So last night I dreamt that Timmy turned out to be Paul McCartney. It was so funny. I was running around David Geffen's huge marble bathroom where he had Emmys, Oscars, Grammys, and god knows what other awards displayed all over the place. He was JJ aparently and those were all the awards that Shimmy collected.
But then I ran into Lindsey Lohan, her little sister, and dad at a coffee shop.
I will take that as an indicator that I need to take a break from CDAN and hang out with my real friends for a while.
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