Saturday, January 05, 2008

Suri Cruise Is L. Ron Hubbard's Baby

Here are some of the allegations Andrew Morton makes in his new book about Tom Cruise including that Suri is actually the child of L. Ron Hubbard. This is good stuff people. Even better than we all hoped for.

#1 Tom Cruise has become the de-facto second in command of the Church of Scientology.

#2 Morton compares Suri to the Devil's child in the film Rosemary's Baby.

#3 Scientology has taken over the 45-year-old actor's life, with its officials selecting many of the staff at his Hollywood mansion.

#4 Cruise is consulted by Scientology leader David Miscavige on "every aspect of planning and policy" and is tailoring his career to fit the aims of Scientology.

Miscavige is said in the book to have gone to extraordinary lengths to charm Cruise, even ordering his staff to plant a field full of wild flowers at a Scientology base in California after Cruise had told him of his fantasy to run through a wildflower meadow with his then newlywed wife Nicole Kidman.

The relationship between the two men is so close that, according to Morton's book, Miscavige even joined him on honeymoon in the Maldives after his wedding to Katie Holmes in 2006.

Of course Tom denies each and everything in the book. Hell, he probably disagrees with the fact that he was married to Nicole Kidman or even Katie Holmes. He is married to them right? Scientology lawyers are believed to be drawing up a lawsuit seeking $100M in compensation from Morton's publishers, St Martin's Press.

Cruise's lawyer Bert Fields criticized a passage in which Morton claims some "fanatical" Scientologists believed Suri Cruise was actually the result of a sperm donation by Scientology's dead founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

That's right folks. Morton says that Suri is actually L Ron's child. How f**king cool is that.

Morton writes that Katie might feel like she was in "the horror movie Rosemary's Baby, in which an unsuspecting young woman is impregnated with the Devil's child".

Mr Fields said: "It's not being published in England. The American publishers criticised the libel laws in Britain because they require an author to tell the truth. Well, thank God for the British libel laws."

Cruise will not be reading the book when it is published in the United States on January 15, Mr Fields said. "He has no intention of reading it. He's very, very busy with a lot of things right now.

"He has been told about it and naturally he knows there are a bunch of lies about him. You can imagine what it must be like to have someone compare your baby girl to Rosemary's Baby. Morton should be ashamed of himself.

"It's a boring, poorly researched book by a man who never talked to anyone involved in Tom Cruise's life or anyone close to him.

"There's no real independent research. He hasn't spoken to his mother, his sister, me, Paula Wagner [Cruise's film producing partner], his agent, his wives, David Beckham, Will Smith, Jennifer Lopez or any of the famous directors he's worked with. Instead you've got this long, boring reference to people he knew 30 years ago."

Morton's book follows Cruise's career from the beginning and details how Cruise became consumed by Scientology.

His involvement in Scientology began in 1986 when he was recruited by his first wife Mimi Rogers, a Scientologist who gave him some literature on the subject.

Morton claims Scientologists pursued Cruise as part of a campaign to recruit celebrities.

Morton quotes former senior member Karen Pressley as saying: "A senior Scientology executive would be on the phone telling us that Emilio Estevez was staying in Malibu and that we had 48 hours to speak to him and get him in for an auditing session. There was so much heat and pressure on this it was outrageous."

Cruise's recruitment was a coup for his wife Mimi but when their marriage began to fail in 1990 the hierarchy sided with him, according to Morton.

He quotes a former Scientologist saying: "The impetus was to help Tom Cruise and within 24 hours they had agreed to split up."

Morton says David Miscavige sought to rebuild Scientology's reputation, battered by a fraud scandal in 1982.

He invited Cruise to his "desert lair" in 1989, a 500-acre resort in Hemet, 90 miles from Los Angeles, nicknamed "Gold Base".

Miscavige lives there with Scientology's most devoted followers called Sea Organisation or Sea Org.

Morton claims the base was surrounded by security cameras, with "secret plans to rig the perimeter with homemade explosives in case of attack", as well as a "man-made eyrie where eagle-eyed guards with high-powered rifles fitted with telescopic sights scanned sunbaked California scrub for possible intruders".

According to Morton, the followers were not treated well. Miscavige, he says, was followed everywhere by an entourage "who slavishly tape-recorded his every utterance".

Scientologists say Gold Base is simply home to their film studios and production facilities where the organization's literature, videos and E-meters are made, and say Morton's characterisation of Miscavige is based on testimony disproved in court.

When Cruise met Miscavige, the two men hit it off, Morton says. He quotes former Scientologist Jesse Prince as saying: "They were like glue, two little people who really enjoyed each other. They laughed the same and acted the same. They were like glove puppets, he was a big star and he was head of a religion."

Miscavige indulged Cruise's whims, ordering Sea Org workers to build a tennis court and gym to impress Cruise (facilities Scientologists say already existed).

According to Morton: "When Tom confided to the Scientology leader about the couple's fantasy of running through a meadow of wild flowers together, his friend apparently decided to make his dream come true.

"A team of 20 Sea Org disciples was set to work digging, hoeing, and planting wheat grass and wildflower seed near the Cruises' bungalow.

"Naturally the work was regularly inspected by David and Shelley Miscavige [his wife], who would ride over to the site on his motorbike. They were apparently unhappy with the finished appearance and had the area ploughed over and reseeded."

Although Scientologists deny the wildflower planting ever happened, Morton claims to have legal affidavits from several witnesses.

Morton says the indulgences came with a price, that Scientology took over the Cruises' new home in Los Angeles where Tom employed "a plethora of nannies, chefs, gardeners, housekeepers, and security staff.

"It was said that many were Scientologists who were carefully vetted by Scientology officials, the procedure often taking months in order to find a suitable candidate with the right background and attitude to work for Scientology's poster boy.

"Candidates would be interviewed on videotape by a Scientology executive before being approved. A Scientology executive later dismissed the claim as 'preposterous'."

Scientology executives contributed to the failure of Cruise's marriage to Kidman, Morton implies.

Morton says that Cruise was asked in 1999 to do a "Potential Trouble Source/Suppressive Person course...designed to anchor an individual's faith while pinpointing those in his life who create problems".

Morton claims Scientologists were worried that Kidman might be a problem because her father was a psychologist - "which automatically made her a Potential Trouble Source" - and she had given an interview emphasising her roots as a Catholic.

"The fear was that a lukewarm Nicole could fatally compromise Tom's commitment to his faith," Morton writes.

"Somehow Tom had to be inoculated against the virus of doubt.

"The surefire cure for scepticism was the Potential Trouble Source/ Suppressive Person course, which reinforced wavering Scientologists' loyalty while making them more suspicious of those around them who were not members of the faith."

When Cruise decided to leave Nicole in 2000, she was worried that she might not be able to see the two children the couple had adopted.

Morton quotes a former highranking Scientologist claiming he received a call from Kidman's lawyer Bill Beslow: "At this point Nicole hated Scientology but was concerned for the kids.

"She did not want to ruin her relationship with them. I told the lawyer if she wants to stay with the children she will have to be quiet and not speak out about Scientology."

In particular, Morton claims she was worried about her "audit" tapes, which contained details of her sex life and which she feared might be leaked if she spoke out.

Morton recounts allegations that "auditing" focuses on the subject's sex life.

He quotes Hubbard's son, Ronald De Wolf, who fell out with his father, giving a Playboy interview: "You have complete control of someone if you have every detail of his sex life and fantasy life on record. In Scientology the focus is on sex. Sex, sex, sex.

"The first thing we wanted to know about someone we were auditing was his sexual deviations. All you've got to do is find a person's kinks, whatever they might be.

"Their dreams and their fantasies. Then you can fit a ring through their noses and take them anywhere. You promise to fulfil their fantasies or you threaten to expose them."

Morton says Karen Pressley was at Gold Base one evening when John Travolta's sexuality was openly discussed.

He writes: "'It made my head spin,' she recalls, 'and made me realize that the idea of confidentiality was a chimera.' As another Scientology executive admitted bluntly, 'These files come in handy if they want to blackmail you'."

Cruise's attempts at new relationships, with actresses Penelope Cruz and Sofia Vergara, did not work out.

Morton claims Cruz's father Eduardo "was concerned that his famous daughter could be drawn into what he considered a cult - and, like so many others, be lost to him and his family for ever.

"Eventually he emailed an organization devoted to helping cult members and their families. It was only after a long exchange of correspondence that officials realised they were dealing with Penelope Cruz's father."

Cruise's shorter-lived relationship with Vergara included a visit to the Scientologists' Celebrity Center in California.

Morton claims: "It was on this trip that Sofia realised Tom was never alone. Everywhere he went, he was surrounded by Scientologists. They were at his home, they were in his car, they were at the restaurant. They were never short of smiles, but she found them 'powerful and authoritarian'.

"One friend told me, 'She met his children, there is no doubt he was auditioning her for the part of his wife.' Sofia told friends she had been deliberately targeted not only as a possible bride for Tom, but as a high-profile Scientology recruit who would be an alluring figurehead for a future recruitment drive in Latin America."

Cruise's lawyer described the allegation as "ridiculous".

Morton claims that as Cruise has moved higher up the echelons of the Church of Scientology he has made more and more decisions about his life and career to simply promote his religion.

The author says Germany's population of 80million made it a perfect "new market" for Scientology, although the church is not recognised officially as a religion there.

"David Miscavige and his lieutenants were in Scientology's war room at Hemet, planning the invasion of Germany. From time to time they were joined in their desert bunker by Tom, who these days is the organization's second-in-command in all but name, involved in every aspect of planning and policy."

Morton says Cruise's current mission is to recruit David and Victoria Beckham. The actor invited Miscavige to a Real Madrid game back in 2004 and held a celebrity party for the couple when they moved to Los Angeles.

Of the bizarre beliefs Morton ascribes to some Scientologists about Cruise's third wife, Katie Holmes, whom the actor married in a whirlwind romance, the author says, incredibly: "Some Sea Org fanatics even wondered if the actress had been impregnated with Hubbard's frozen sperm.

"In her more reflective moments, Katie might have felt as if she were in the middle of a real-life version of the horror movie Rosemary's Baby, in which an unsuspecting young woman is impregnated with the Devil's child."

Mr Fields described the passage as "sick and bizarre".

"It's a pack of lies," he said. "The book suggests Scientologists somehow run his career. I've represented him for over 20 years and I've never discussed his business with David Miscavige. It's poorly researched and badly written, and it's not really even about Tom Cruise - it's an attack on Scientology."

The Church of Scientology is incensed about a series of allegations Morton makes about Miscavige, who took over from the religion's founder L. Ron Hubbard at the age of 26.

Elliot Abelson, general counsel for the Church of Scientology, said of Morton: "We tried to contact him to co-operate, to give him the truth, to give him a tour. I received nothing.

"This was a pre-ordained mission to trash Tom Cruise. He didn't ask to speak to David Miscavige and wrote some horrible things about him which are totally untrue. No one has ever made complaints of that kind."

Mr Abelson denied the actor was "second in command".

"He is a parishioner, a well respected parishioner, but that's what he is. The only person who runs the Church and makes policy decisions is David Miscavige."

Mr Abelson said no decision had been taken about legal action but he added that Scientologists may sue in Britain if the book is distributed here.

"It isn't too late for St Martin's Press to pull this book," he said.


NotAMeanGirl said...

Good Lord Enty you're posting LATE! LOL... Imma have to read this stupid book now.

Judi said...

>blink< ...and on a Saturday! Yeah, gotta buy it now.

Cooper's Mom said...

wow this is heavy stuff, right? i think that elements of this book may be true but i'm pretty sure large portions of it are over-exaggerated or just plain made up. having said that Tom cruise is one weird, weird individual.... makes me happy to be a regular joe :)

ms_wonderland said...

The Scientologists are making a lot out of the book not being published in Britain because of the Libel laws over here. Our libel laws are all about damage to a person's reputation, and the costs involed are huge.

"In law, a person is defamed if statements in a publication expose him to hatred or ridicule, cause him to be shunned, lower him in the estimation in the minds of "right-thinking" members of society or disparage him in his work" (from here: )

It sounds like this book would cause Tom Cruise to be damaged in that way. The National Enquirer has been sued over here, on the basis of a few copies sold on import, for libels that would never stand up in American courts. Truth is not what British libel law is about, so please don't let this tactic have any bearing on the rights and wrongs of this book.

The statements made by Morton are full of qualifiers 'some people say' and 'Katie Holmes could feel'. So he didn't actually say that Suri was L Ron Hubbard's spawn. The lawyers are going to be busy, and I'd guess that they would go after newspapers, magazines (and blogs?) who report this stuff without qualifiers. Andrew Morton is too experienced at this game to be caught, but Cruise/Scientology will bring a case for form's sake, and to scare off others.

silenttype said...

Suckno is hilarious. He is oh so funny. I am besides myself in humor. I need to join a cult like Scientology. Whose origin is based in creating a tax evasion scheme from the IRS

Naples Tax Lawyer said...

I wish the IRS would re-grow a set of 'nads and take a fresh look at Scientology as a "religion." IMHO, as a tax attorney, these churches have zero connection to organized religion (except for the money grubbing and wanting to control every facet of someone's life) and the Scientology church should pay taxes like every other con game in town.

Anonymous said...

Ent - what was your source for this one? It looks like Morton only talked to ex-Scientologists which could be considered a biased source.

Also, American libel laws are based on intent. The onus is on the litigant to prove intent to harm the reputation of the subject. There will be a lot of money thrown at that lawsuit.

It might be early enough for St. Martin's to pull the book, but they have been printed by now if they're coming out next week. Some will leak out, and it'll be on bittorrent by thursday if Cruise brings an injunction.

La Sol said...

why is Les suckno being allowed to post here? I, for one do not want to see all that on the comments. ENT should do something.

Kim's World said...

la sol

what i do and what others do is ignore it because people like that thrive off of us giving them attention...however i do feel that something needs to be done....

Mel said...

I feel the same way la sol, the poster has been posting vile commenta for a while now. I'm surprised it's allowed as it's brings the blog down. If these people are allowed free rein then you might start losing decent regular posters.

mooshki said...

Wow, that's even more entertaining than the Chris Klein theory! Ewww, poor Katie.

trashtalker said...

I love the obvious power struggle between Tom and David in the photo posted here. Tom is such a controlling, manipulative, smug ass.

I imagine them having this conversation during that photo...

David: I'm the leader of Scientology.
Tom: Scientology will be mine! Mwah hah hah!
David: I'll break your arm if you don't back off.
Tom: Not before I can put the Vulcan death grip on you. Checkmate, my friend. Checkmate.

Unknown said...

My absolute favorite line out of the entire post:

They were like glue, two little people who really enjoyed each other.

Bwahhahahahaha. Miscabbage and Tommy Girl forever!

Leah said...

Hey here's an idea. How about ENT, who is supposed to be a lawyer, actually post legal info about a top celebrity who is going through a legal, medical, and personal crisis. Hmm... now who would that be?

Katy said...

I have a question though - if I wanted to buy this book (I'm in the UK) can I do it through an American online retailer, or would that be like breaking a law or something?

kellygirl said...

I honestly do not care enough about Tom Cruise to read this book. I barely had the attention span to finish your little write-up. I just could care less.

now, if someone I know and love were to get mixed up in this cult, sure, I'd be all over it. But I really feel the Sci's will end up destroying themselves in the next 10 to 20 years.

Anonymous said...

I love how they deny that Cruise is second in command, yet I remember not long ago, Scientologists were not denying it when asked if Cruise had been appointed the Christ of Scientology.

Uber*nought said...

Well, I knew she wasn't Tom's, that's for freaking sure.

Pope-rah said...

dnfromn = ignorant

anyone who takes up for Scientology is ignorant and that's not an opionion but FACT.

Read up about scentiology.Watch the videos of former members. They are not biased but sincere and brave for speaking out considering what this cult does to anyone who tries to say anything negative about the cult. I cannot believe our government allows them to be called a religion. The terrorists need to send a suicide bomber into the Celebrity Center.

Rare Avis said...

Oh boy.
This site has gone all looney tunes. Pope-rah are you advocating terrorism? Your post frightened me. This is the United States and you can worship whoever whenever you want. FACT; you are advocating change through violent means.

Anonymous said...

Um, I'm sure it was meant more sarcastically, wishy washy, or tongue in cheek, rather than being an actual endorsement of terrorism. Much like how dmfrommn probably wasnt really advocating Scientology, either, but rather, the way this book was written. Just because the subject of the book is a villain, and a valid one at that, doesnt mean you can make up anything you want about them.

jlb said...

The fact that Scientology and Cruise are so controlling leads me to think there's no way that Suri couldn't be genetically Tom's. There is always the chance she'd grow up and test her own DNA - teenagers can be a rebellious sort. Tom had already adopted two kids - if Katie was pregnant when they "hooked up" why wouldn't he have made a big deal out of adopting another child - he's still "hetero" for marrying a young girl - they could have had a 'bio' kid right after as well.

LOL Just ramblings. Scientology is a weird little cult.

Jemtastic said...

Am I the only one that noticed Fields' line about Morton not talking to people like Jennifer Lopez? If Scientologists really audit to get at your sordid past, they've got a member for life in JLo.

It also makes me sick that Fields is praising British libel laws as upholders of the truth. Last time I checked, libelous material didn't mean it was a lie.

liveunderarock said...

If you bother to read Dnfrommn's comment before jumping to conclusions you will see he isn't "taking up" for Scientology. He is merely commenting on American libel laws.

Unknown said...

Does anyone else think that the shot the pap was trying to get outside the house was not only of Tom and a trick, but of Tom and Miscavige??? ooo...juicy!

GammaGirl said...

It takes some serious balls to compare Suri to the demon child from "Romsemary's Baby". The analogy is in poor taste, but I truly believe that Suri was probably not conceived "the natural" way. I'm curious about how Morton is going to back up his allegations about Suri's paternity, but not enough to rush out and buy the book.

I'm holding out for one of kids from his marriage to Lady Frost to write a tell-all!

I DO believe that Scientology preys on the weak and emotionally vulnerable. It's hard to see the good in any organization that encourages it's members to cut off all ties with family and friends.

Pope-rah said...

I've read the course materials for Scientology.
I've watched HOURS of video about Scientology
I've read tons of articles regarding Scientology.
I KNOW FOR A FACT it is evil and should never be given a fair shake because it doesn't treat anyone fairly except for those with cash to spend.
Do your own research before you talk about it please.

Pope-rah said...

BTW - I know I get fired up about it, but if you guys knew as much as I do, you would too. I've already been schooling my daughter about it as she will be going to college in a couple of years and they prey on college-age kids.

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Lucia said...

EL, if you are in fact a lawyer, don't you know better than cutting and pasting an article without crediting it? Your post is a shortened version of the Daily Mail's article (

Shame on you for not citing them and for reprinting their shoddy writing.

As for this:
"Cruise's lawyer Bert Fields criticized a passage in which Morton claims some "fanatical" Scientologists believed Suri Cruise was actually the result of a sperm donation by Scientology's dead founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

That's right folks. Morton says that Suri is actually L Ron's child. How f**king cool is that."

If you reread what you cut and pasted from the Daily Mail, you'll see that Morton says that *some* Scienos *believed* that Suri is L.Ron's, not that Morton himself is claiming that.

Tom Cruise and Scientology are scandalous enough without you and the Daily Mail twisting words and taking the spotlight off the truly troubling aspects of Cruise and the cult.

kellygirl said...

I would honestly prefer to keep the children out of this mess. It's not right to talk about Suri with all of this conjecture. she is just a baby and is innocent and has not chosen any celebrity lifestyle.

Parsley Mostly said...

i think scientology is a bunch of hog wash. but i also think christianity is, too. throw wicca in there, why not. and kabbala, which isn't based on anything but baby costumes, red strings, and expensive water, i think.

be that as it may, that's really the reason people think tommy boy isn't suri's dad. i know PLENTY of gay guys who have naturally fathered children, and i know PLENTY of people who are weird and outspoken about meds, shrinks, and other such things. that those things are the same as scientology beliefs is a moo point.

suri looks just like tom's cousin (the Ethan Rom guy from Lost), who looks just like Cruise did before the nose jobs and braces. (he sure as hell didn't start out cute.) Suri is tom's kid. who cares how she was conceived? that Cox-Arquette kid wasn't done naturally, neither was Pretty Woman's kids.

as cracker jack crazy scientologists are, it's really a bigot jerk wad thing to assume one didn't father his kid just because he belongs to a kookie religion.

i'm sure the jamie lee curtis is a hermaphrodite rumor started because her dad was in that drag fest movie and in that snails and oysters and hot tube movie. not a nice rumor, and neither is this one. shame on you all.

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Unknown said...

Does anyone know if the Morton book contains any explanations or proof regarding Tom's alleged homosexuality? Certainly that would have been leaked by now. There has been a constant thread during his career of no one being able to prove that he is gay, despite everyone (myself included) thinking that he is a closeted gay man. Travolta appears to be much more comfortable being a fruit in private and messing around with men, despite the "marriage" to Kelly Preston, Scientologist.

Unknown said...

Andrew Morton better get some heavy duty security. Scientology doesn't fool around. They are a very scary bunch and will stop at nothing to keep their critics quiet. The guy that was blackmailing Cruise for "wedding pictures" ended up dead. It seemed very suspicious. L Ron Hubbard was a horrible person and abused his wife and family. He invented this religion because of a bet he had with a fellow science fiction writer.

YahMoBThere said...

Pope-rah! Dnfrommn isn't advocating Scientology at all. Go back and read his post. He's playing devil's advocate by stating if the only people interviewed were ex-Scientologists, than they can say it was just about sour grapes.

Based on EL's post, I think the book is going to be disappointing. I wanted dirt based on provable facts. This isn't it.

Unknown said...

jamie lee curtis was born with AIS...its when a baby is meant to be male and the hormone is produced too late causing sterility and testes that never drop...

Unknown said...

Ent, you really should have credited the source (The Daily Mail) of your post since you published it almost verbatim.

budford said...

I am all for anybody doing their thing and having their own beliefs, but that certainly seems like an overly controlling system.

I live outside of a major city, in a typical upper middle class suburban enclave and we had a strange group out here that was very wealthy. Unlike these Scientologists, these people wore some very unusual garb, much like people right of out Big Love compound and they all seemed kinda goofy adn out of it. I used to think how can everyone just ignore them? Heck, if they painted CULT on the top of the door people would just go about their day. So I can see how far Scientology gets without any real scrutiny.

WTF said...

Can not wait to read this book!!!

GMD is already on damage control.

jax said...

scientology is BS like most organized my opinion. a lot of closeted people hiding in their straight marriages and believing the myth.

oh here come the out.

Reese said...

I don't plan to buy this book; I'll wait for my library to get a copy. In the meantime, the bits Enty has posted are far more bizarre than anything I was expecting. If even half of this stuff is true then I have underestimated Scientology, and I have always believed it to be nutty on a magnificent level. I just can't imagine what would ever draw someone to this cult; not only is it scary as hell it is expensive to join and stay in. Can't wait to see the posts/read the comments when all of you who have ordered the book get into reading it.

Anonymous said...

Agh, I hate to defend myself because it only prolongs the agony, but the internet is forever.

pope-rah: I'm not defending scientology, only balanced reporting. The article Ent posted is editorially favoring scientology by stating that Morton's only on the record statements are from ex-scientologists. Morton should know better to at least get a 'no comment' from the other side, and maybe he has, but it is not mentioned in the article. I respect your defence of ex-scientologists, ex-cult members deserve recognition and support, however, they have a perspective that is (justifiably) emotional. Call me whatever you want, but emotionally detached critical analysis of facts presented from all angles (even if they deliver mixed messages) is preferable for me.

Pope-rah said...

dnfromn - apolgogies for misinterpreting your comment - mea culpa, sincerely

the reason Morton prob didn't interview the Scientologists is because they are all "lie-tellers!" as Michael K would say.

Pope-rah said...

Please tell me that some of you watched that video of the guy who went down to the Scientology Center for some "Public" event and the cult memebers started harassing him...those dudes are SOOO brainwashed....scary stuff

Unknown said...

nice uncredited cut and paste.

If I would have done that in junior high school, I would have gotten suspended.

AND, I read it yesterday.

Most of us don't care if you compile info from multiple sources- but in the information age we live in, it's only polite/respecful to cite your sources.

WineGirl X said...

I don't know about anyone else, but I actually buy into the Chris Klein theory.

liveunderarock said...

Quite an informative post, here's what I learned, today, at Enty's School of Gossip. ;p

1.Morton and his book have survived long enough for someone to read the book. (That surprises the hell out of me.)
2.People from The Daily Mail read CDAN but scientologists don't.
3. Talking about religion makes everyone crazy. (See above)
4. Jamie Lee Curtis was born with AIS.

CincyNat said...

Budford! Do you live outside Chicago--western suburbs, perhaps? I've seen those people you're talking about....freaky! Pope-rah, I'll be checking out your links. I find the Scienos fascinating--it's like reading horror fiction. Scary.

YahMoBThere said...

Ginny and Budford !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you guys are talking about Willow Creek - I've been calling that a cult for years. Ever talk to anyone who goes there? They're like Stepford wives.

YahMoBThere said...

Miscavige almost makes Cruise look tall. Almost.

YahMoBThere said...

Ginny, I don't think Budford is talking about Willow Creek. Those people get dressed to the nines. Must be a cult rule.

CincyNat said...

No, Twisted, not Willow Creek. Yeah, that's like a Yuppie cult--yikes--do people still say 'Yuppie'? Anyway, the place I'm thinking of is in Hinsdale and they do dress like the Juniper Creek characters on 'Big Love,' like Budford was describing. Very folksy and Old World. And more than a little freaky, given their surroundings and their own group wealth.

Unknown said...

I swear I had no idea how fucked up Scientology was until I did some research. I always thought it was some crazy religion. But its not even a religion, its a fucking cult! People please for the love of God, do your research. Scientology is meant to destroy people and to take your money. Its ridiculous. Its sick and twisted and it ruins people. People within this "religion" are afraid to get out because they know that private information of themselves will get out and will ruin their image for life. Nicole hasn't spoken a word about Scientology because she knows her past sexual history and all of sorts of other secrets about herself will be used to tarnish her image and ruin her career. They blackmail people and threaten you at all times. People are literally brainwashed to believe in that shit. They have the money to do whatever the fuck they want which is why they've been so successful. Look up vids on youtube or google it. The info is out there. These people just want money. I used to like Tom Cruise but my God that man is sick and evil to try to promote his crazy ass cult. Fuck Travolta and all those other celebrities who continuously promote this fucked up "religion." That cult destroys people. Posh and Becks: be smart and don't let Tom fucking fool you! I feel sorry for Nicole's kids and for Suri. I don't think Katie knew what she was getting into!

Marisa said...

you mean Suri and I are sisters?!

YahMoBThere said...

Ginny, thanks for the heads up. You mean there are TWO cults in Chicago suburbs? How did we get so lucky?

NatD said...

Huh, I was going to chide EL for not citing sources as well, but looks like 2 of you already beat me to it. I read the Daily Mail article yesterday through a (source cited) link on another blog yesterday.

Dick Insideu said...

So Tom Cruise likes to felch John Revolta. Big deal. So Tom Cruise is a member of a cult. Who cares? It's not like the homo has one iota of talent anyway. Who's so stupid as to see a Tom Cruise movie these days?

mooshki said...

Hey everyone, go here, put (Les Suckno's profile address) in the URL field, put something like "Offensive commenter" in the Subject line and ask Blogger to block Les's account. I don't know if it'll work, but if enough of us complain, maybe they'll do something about him.

Pope-rah said...

the lease Ent could do would be to delete those stupid comments so we didn't have to scroll through them to find on topic comments.

YahMoBThere said...

Mooshki, thanks! Complaint registered with links to several posts.

Mia, I read the Daily Mail, too, and do NOT see any cut and paste job.

EL compiles gossip from any number of places. I think that's pretty much understood here.

Anonymous said...


DO NOT pee on my neck and tell me it's raining.

Anonymous said...

rare avis [btw, do you mean rara avis?]
$cientology is not a religion, it's a tax evasion scheme.

__-__=__ said...

I only wish I could evade taxes so well! How about we all get with Penelope's father and find out about that organization that helps cult members?? Then we could have them rescue the adopted children! I truly think that's the fastest way to get to the bottom of all this. The sooner they write about all this the sooner we will know the truth. They should be liberated!!

And, another thing. I just don't know how ashamed I would be if my sex life was made public. I mean, sex is sex and most of it is pretty pedestrian. What if nobody cared? Ever?? I understand this stuff is supposed to be private but if somebody ever threatened me with any of it I would tell them to just go ahead.

Then again, I'm not easily intimidated. But I don't think people should be. I guess that's just me.

So where do we contact that organization and liberate the children?!?!?!?!?!?!

mazemerizing said...

Been a fan of this site since Timmy/Shimmy. Thanks mooshki. I posted a complaint. Has anyone considered Les Suckno may be David Miscavige himself or one of his minions? Pre-ordered the Andrew Morton book last month. Can't wait to read it if it's about Tommy or Scientology. Should be entertaining either way.

Tracee said...

^Trolls don't die! They multiply!

Scientology is creepy. But almost every organized religion makes my skin crawl. Most are based in controlling people either by fear or intimidation.

Stacy said...

I'm so excited about this book, it sounds juicy. Except I don't believe Suri is L. Ron's baby, that is Chris Klein's baby and nothing other than DNA will ever make me believe otherwise.

Jolara said...

I'm beginning to think Les Suckno is Nicole Kidman.

Maybe if we ignore him, he will go away. ENT, please get rid of !!!!

Back to subject at hand. Could Miscavige be Suris' biological father? Not that it matters. It's become a guessing game now. I truly mean no disrespect to the child though. :0(

Unknown said...

I see Miscavige more of a possibility of being the father than L. long can sperm stay frozen without freezer burn?

Catherine said...

Gee Spin, ask Les Suckno. I think he is one of those Freezer Burn babies and you can see how badly it messed him up!

Anonymous said...

What the hell is up with all of these commenters getting their knickers in a wad and complaining that this blog entry is an uncredited cut-and-paste. It's a frigging blog. I don't expect original reporting. Now shut the hell up.

In case you don't know how blogs work, this is the commenting section, not a 'Dear Enty' forum. There's a big link on the right side of your screen labeled EMAIL. Please use it for your pissy complaints about Ent's postings.

You're probably just some rival blogger anyway, now bugger off.

Jolara said...

THANK YOU ENT!!! I see Les Sucko's rants are gone.

Anonymous said...

I've read the book! It's a must read.

YahMoBThere said...

Yeah, Peek, I'm not sure where the hand slappers are coming from. I've now read several articles about the book, most of them have the same line items, none of them were cut and paste jobs and nobody credited anybody else.

Lots of posters who seem unhappy to be here. Maybe they got lost and need a map.

YahMoBThere said...

Tara, is it out already? And did you find that the articles about the book covered all the good stuff? I hate when a book gets a lot of media coverage and in reading it I find that everything noteworthy was already revealed.

Anonymous said...

it's not out already, and it's probably better if I don't say how I got it. most of the best stuff has been revealed, yeah, but not all. the experience of reading the book is worth it. it seems sort of timid because everything is written in "allegedly"s and "according to one source", which is probably helpful for the upcoming lawsuit, but I found myself absorbed with the person Tom is painted to be. You can't capture that with quotes.

YahMoBThere said...

Thanks, Tara. You're probably right in not revealing how you got the book. No sense in pissing off any thetans!

Pope-rah said...


Did you submit to Lainey?

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