Saturday, August 04, 2018

Blind Item #5 - Reader Blind Item

Just after the turn of the century there was a movie. Based on a dramatic true story that proved to be the big break for many, now well known actors. It had a big cast of men, essential to the nature of the movie.

Among this cast were a considerable number of young, relatively unknown, foreign born actors from a certain country. For many of them it was their first time on a big budget film, or their first time working with a big name director or, for some, their first time working away from their home country, and they were eager to please.

Another actor on set was more well known, while not being A list by any stretch he had a secure career and was friends with the A+ list director among other influential people. He was also, even then, a massive sleaze, and didn’t discriminate by gender ( although lately he is more well known for leaning towards women.)

He saw a vulnerable group and set out to make some of their lives miserable on set. Bullying and sexually harassing whenever he got the chance.  Eventually, as he became more of a bully and things got more physical, three of the actors stepped up and made a complaint to the director.

The director met with them, and said that he would talk to the Sleaze but warned them not to make any formal complaints or they would never work again. The Sleaze was reprimanded but this only made him worse. He knew no one would say anything.

The three actors have continued to act and have successful careers. One of them, more recently, had his career sabotaged by the most famous sleaze of all. But is back on track now with the lead in a TV show.

The second keeps a low profile, and is kind of an introvert, but always has interesting projects on the go, mostly working on TV, theatre and Indie stuff.

The third you all know from his turn in THAT franchise. And THAT OTHER franchise.

The Director was caught in another pervert related quandary recently. That case was so high profile he couldn't cover it up and had to make big changes to his movie.

The Sleaze got #MeTooed and will probably never work again. Karma’s a bitch.  

72 comments:

Geeljire said...

Haha holy shit is this black hawk down?

sandybrook said...

Welcome to America with the two sleazeballs being Michael Madsen and Tom Sizemore?

Geeljire said...

Makes more sense

sandybrook said...

As much as I hate to admit this, goatfucker may be right and Sizemore is in that too.

sandybrook said...

Hmm...well we can count on Sizemore being one of them. Let me investigate that cast more, there's a Madsen in that too, just not Michael.

MDAnderson said...

Agree with geel. Ridley Scott had to remove spacey from All the money in the world movie.

Geeljire said...

I thought saving private ryan at first but it's too early for the blind and we'll just agree to disagree on directorial context there

sandybrook said...

Jeremy Piven, Tom Sizemore, Tom Hardy, Josh Hartnett, Eric Bana

Neal M said...

You guys are good. I was thinking spacey... and was racking my brain to think of the movie.

BHD sounds like the winner.

MDAnderson said...

Hugh Dancy for the second and Orlando Bloom for the third actor.

Neal M said...

MD, I was thinking spacey too, but agree that it is BHD.
"All the money in the world" is too recent for those other actors to have gone on to the other things mentioned for them afterward.

Krispyc said...

Is the 3rd Orlando Bloom? LotR and Pirates as the franchises.

I feel like one of the three is Josh Hartnett though none of those descriptions really fit him. Did he ever do theater? He also worked with Sizemore on Pearl Harbor too.

plot said...

Welcome to America had a couple big female roles .

Blackhawk Down had zero female roles which fits with the description of the movie.

Sizemore is a known bully, though I don't see him sexually active with men. Harassing them with sexually charged names, oh sure, but physical harassment in the form of sex, can't see it. Was he friends with Ridley Scott? That doesn't sound right but could be.

William Fitchner is another possibility but he hasn't been included in the MeToo accusations like Sizemore.

I'll have to look over the whole cast later to find out which are the 3 guys who stood up.

gauloise said...
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Geeljire said...

It would probably be sexually bullying the Nigerian actors purporting to be Somali or whatever was going on there, so yeah um whatever that is or means if those guys were FOBs.

Film was shot in Arizona, correct me if I'm wrong.

Neal M said...

Sizemore as sleeze

Foreign born trio of young actors.
Bana, Dancy, McGregor


Black Hawk Down - credit to Geeljire and Sandybrook.

gauloise said...

Ewan MacGregor for the bi-sexual sleaze who leans more to women ?

Josh Hartnett for the low profile Introvert

Tom Hardy for the franchises (Dark Knight / Mad Max)

Geeljire said...

This was before Barkhad became poster child for Somalia, thanks for everything Tom Hanks.
Creep.

Neal M said...

Harnett isn't foreign born. Born in Minn, US.

Neal M said...

gauloise,
I forgot Tom Hardy was in that... Dancy would be low profile introvert? Because Hartnett wasn't foreign born...

Geeljire said...

These were the precursor films to current coke bear daddy dyncorp mil film syndicates that tbh probably existed since at least 'Platoon' and maybe up to and including any set where John Wayne sucked a cock

Shout out to BCoop

gauloise said...

Are the 3 young actors foreign born, or just that there were many foreign born in the cast? I read it as the latter.

Also McGregor can't be one of the 3 young actors, as he was already hugely successful for many years by that time.

Neal M said...

SO "considerable number of young, relatively unknown, foreign born actors from a certain country"

Hardy UK, Macgregor UK, Dancy UK



Not Hartnett US, Bana Australia

Geeljire said...

The guy MacGregor's character is based on raped his own daughter

Here's a fun time to bring this up:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia_Affair

Neal M said...

Could Piven be the sleeze? With him and Sizemore roaming the set, that must have been one toxic place. Was Spacey busy and couldn't do a role?

Neal M said...

Also for young actor Ioan Gruffudd UK (Horatio Hornblower!) to join Hardy UK, Macgregor UK, Dancy UK.


Geeljire said...

How gay was the set of Tropic Thunder guys

Neal M said...

I wonder if that early experience with being bullied, is why Hardy is well known now as a prick to work with?

bergstrom said...

the first actor mentioned at the end is Ioan Gruffudd, who had his career sabotaged by Harvey when his wife Alice Evans rejected him. definitely Black Hawk Down.

Geeljire said...

Say it ain't so, Shinzon

MDAnderson said...

Agree.

Neal M said...

bergstrom said...
"the first actor mentioned at the end is Ioan Gruffudd, who had his career sabotaged by Harvey when his wife Alice Evans rejected him. definitely Black Hawk Down."


+1

Neal M said...

"Vampire Diaries actress Alice Evans penned an emotional essay on Saturday in which she opened up about about rejecting disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein’s sexual advances and pondered the professional consequences that had on both her career and the career of her actor husband Ioan Gruffudd."

Geeljire said...

I was thinking the other day that if Jamie Foxx is totally straight the Django Unchained shoot must have been a giant party

Jane Hanoi said...

Bloom (franchise), dancy (introvert), and gruffudd(weinstein almos ruined careeer per his wife)

timebob said...

Sizemore is steadily working according to imdb credits, but he will never find the early aughts success again.

Neal M said...

Jane Hanoi said...
"Bloom (franchise), dancy (introvert), and gruffudd(weinstein almos ruined careeer per his wife)"


That's it!
I was having a hard time seeing macgregor and Hardy allowing someone to bully them like that, but I can see all of these 3 guys not being able or willing (nice guys) to deal with it.

Sarton Bander said...

The second keeps a low profile, and is kind of an introvert, but always has interesting projects on the go, mostly working on TV, theatre and Indie stuff.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001971/

Ewen Bremner?

bergstrom said...

I thought Bremner but Wonder Woman isn't very lowkey...

Marianne Elba said...

A friend of mine worked with Piven and said he would literally fuck a rolling donut given the chance. His nickname on set was "Perverted Piven."

Geeljire said...

"Thin Red Line" was made in 1998 but literally won a 'Golden Bear' award.

Whatever that means

prixie said...

Tom sizemore for the sleaze.
Hugh Dancy is the introvert.
Orlando bloom is the third actor (Lotr and pirates)

The first one is the one who had seizures in the movie and who plays Captain fantastic in fantastic 4

s.s. said...

If you ever get a chance to see Horatio Hornblower you should it's fantastic.

Sara, Making It Work said...

Piven is the sleaze. He was #metoo'd.
Sizemore is sleaze x 100 but is not high profile enough to get a full #metoo. Plus, he has info (as noted in a previous blind) and will never be fully blacklisted, he's just in low budget shit.
Honestly, with what he (allegedly) knows, and the big drug addict he is, I'm surprised Sizemore is still alive.

cheesegrater15 said...

Tried watching Black Hawk Down once. Wound up banging a Marine instead.

Geeljire said...

Semper wifi

MDAnderson said...

I never said that it was the movie. In the last sentence it says the director was caught in a pervert related quandary. Removing spacey from the movie was the quandary.

Ghog said...

Do you really enjoy intercourse with goats

Geeljire said...

Is this supposed to be from Yajuj and Majuj

Marianne Elba said...

Well that's disgusting. He's a really good actor too.

Low Key said...

So am I the only one that initially thought "turn of the century" meant early 1900s?

totaji said...

What controversy did Ridley Scott get caught up in?

Jane Hanoi said...

-> lowkey
sadly, that was my first thought as well

ridley scott replaced kevin spacey with christopher plummer, after the movie had been shot due to spaey metoo scandel

MDAnderson said...

Replacing Spacey with Christopher Plummer in All the money in the world.

riffer73 said...

It's always hard when someone you like is a sleaze. Tom Sizemore is that actor for me.

I don't know if he is the sleeze in this one though.

Kryptex said...

Hugh Dancy, Orlando Bloom, Tom Hardy for the three actors (all born in England)

plot said...

Tom Sizemore is a hell of an actor, hell of a drug addict and hell of a sleazeball, too.


Yeah, he always comes within inches of being sent to the slammer or black balled for life...but it never happens.

This time, I agree with the masses on CDAN. Something is going on there. It's not just his talent keeping him afloat.

BestMan said...

Lol its caught me before.

sandybrook said...

Turn of the century to me has always been 1900s😥

Tamhsn said...

Black hawk down - Tom Sizemore - Eric Bana (Australia) - Ewan Mcgregor (Scotland) - Kim Coates ( Canada)

Maggie T said...

+1.

I took a while to actively get my mind around that one.

VDOVault said...

Point(s) of clarification

Sizemore got outed as a #HimThough for molesting a child actress on set (I think it was shooting publicity photos for a film whose name is escaping me at the moment & her parents were there when he digitally penetrated her, yikes!)

Piven got outed as a #HimThough for molesting older adult actresses.

#MeToo applies to female victims of #HimThoughs
#HimToo applies to male victims of #HimThoughs (think Terry Crews or Anthony Rapp)

Do we have different terminology for people abusing children as opposed to people abusing adults

GentleBreeze said...

Haha, no LowKey I spent the first few sentences thinking about the early 1900's until the blind made it obvious it was this century. Sucks to be old (not really).

Sekrit said...

It definitely sounds like Ioan as one of the actors. He's a lead in a show in Australia and doing very well. He's a great actor and person, he deserves much better.

J F said...

Yes... its called "pedophile"

hhstarr said...

#jf +100000

Sarton Bander said...

https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2017/11/14/tom-sizemore-allegedly-sexually-assaulted-11-year-old-girl-on-utah-movie-set-in-2003/


Tom Sizemore allegedly sexually assaulted 11-year-old girl on Utah movie set in 2003

Kit Fawkes said...

I’d say Josh is one with the “indie” stuff reference- if you look at his career it fits- Lucky Number Slevin, then did that show Penny Dreadful

Kit Fawkes said...

And I just looked, Hartnett did, in fact, do theater

Kit Fawkes said...

Agree with this all around, especially because the second actor fits Hartnett best so I don’t think all three specified are foreign born, just the film had several young foreign born actors IN ADDITION to the now-well-known young men that were harassed

Kit Fawkes said...

“Among this cast were a considerable number of young, relatively unknown, foreign born actors from a certain country. For many of them it was their first time on a big budget film, or their first time working with a big name director or, for some, their first time working away from their home country, and they were eager to please.”

It just says that among the cast, many were foreign born. I take this as a hint to the movie. If you actually read the whole story, I don’t think he’s saying the actors he listed are foreign born. Merely that the cast was comprised of several foreign born actors. That is why I firmly believe Hartnett is one of them

Felix Ungoliant said...

This might explain why Dancy said he generally prefers working for/with women. More women in the indie sector too.

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