Thursday, January 16, 2020

Today's Blind Items - Tripping

Most of the materials of a long time retired professor are at his archive here in Los Angeles. However, that is not the only place he taught. Last summer at a Southwestern university, a treasure trove of documents were discovered. Many of those had also previously been seen. What had not been seen were several letters between the professor and his handler at the CIA. Even though the professor had long denied working for the CIA, other letters have been found over time, proving that to be a lie. The CIA also funded one of his most famous studies.

In this series of letters, the CIA is asking for his help. They wanted him to take a sabbatical from school for a year and offered to pay his salary plus expenses. The reason they wanted him to go on sabbatical? Several months earlier they had contracted out some work in San Francisco to a group who were conducting tests on people taking LSD that were designed to look like parties. Their experiment had two groups that were essentially divided in the room. One half was involved in more of a hands on kind of listening experience/spoken word performances and the other half would listen to a band. More often than not, the band was this permanent A list band that had been formed specifically for these experiments.

Apparently the groups listening to the bands had the kinds of results that made the CIA want more like that, so they sent this professor out there for a year to take charge of the experiments and look for further applications. Meanwhile, the CIA would continue passing out free LSD to concert goers to not only the permanent A list band but dozens of others at that time.

Unlike his previous big experiment, it is unknown if there is a report he wrote to the CIA after the year. He definitely went and definitely lied to his contemporaries and even to his bosses at the university about what he was doing there. Those lies were discovered many years later, but no one knew exactly what he was doing there or this band's involvement until the letters were found this past summer.

81 comments:

MontanaMarriott said...

The Grateful Dead?

sandybrook said...

Jefferson Airplane or Grateful Dead?

Alf Landon said...

Gottlieb?

Rob Zero said...

Timothy Leary

Brayson87 said...

+1 Rob, That was my first guess but I'm not 100% that he fits:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary

Cinnamon Sticker said...

I also thought Leary but his archives are in New York.

Brayson87 said...

Teachers drugging students, times really don't change do they.

Someone Said said...

James Ketchum for the doctor?

Guesser said...

Timothy Leary,the Greatful Dead,and the locations being red herrings.

Happy said...

"Apparently the groups listening to the bands had the kinds of results that made the CIA want more like that"

What kind of results did they want?

gauloise said...

Oscar Janiger? Did LSD experiments and was a professor at UC Irvine.

He's the guy who gave LSD to Carey Grant

Count Jerkula said...

Owsley acid was the best acid, was he a professor?

How bout left field and it was Unabomber.

gauloise said...

Janiger was mostly interested in how LSD effected creativity, so maybe fits with the band music angle?

E said...

Louis Jolyon "Jolly" West. Look him up. It's an eye opener

Count Jerkula said...

I would have loved to be in a CIA brothel, banging hot hippie broads while tripping face. I have never banged on acid. Must be fun.

Rosemary Young said...

+1 Someone Said. James Ketchum was an army doctor who studied at Stanford (N. California) and died in May 2019 in Arizona. Did psych experiments with drugs.

Moose said...

Any chance it is Larry Brilliant?

Moose said...

Brilliant can be tied to the CIA directly through his smallpox studies (the "other experiment" referred to in the blind). And he was a big part of the San Francisco hippie scene that spawned the Dead, Airplane,...

Anonymous said...

Timothy Leary.
The Doors.
The entire "Hippie" youth movement was created to stop the youth of the time from really becoming educated and revolting. A good percentage were lost to drugs and faux philosophical baloney.
They then ended the hippie movement with Charles Manson, making that into a hippie cult randomly killing people they didn't know when it was really just a series of botched cover ups for cover ups done by a bunch of stoned out of their minds losers.
Someone should talk to old Guru Ram Da Ass while he's still living. He knows all about it.

Anonymous said...

Sorry not Leary since he's long gone but he was one of the participants. Who is still living?

Anonymous said...

I'm 0 for 2. I didn't even hear that old Baba Ram Dass kicked the bucket in December. I hope the old phony got some kind of rude awakening in the afterlife. The beans that old Queen could have spilled.

Moose said...

@MissDavie, Ram Dass, Larry Brilliant and Wavy Gravy co-founded the Seva Foundation in the early 70s. That's one of the reasons I liked Brilliant for this, because he is tied in to all these characters.

Baby Face said...

Ken Kesey...OSU.

MeliticusBee said...

James Ketchum died in May...which would give credence to files being found last summer. He had likely been retired for a while since he was 87.

In addition to his military stuff and post doc work at Stanford - he "treated drug addicts" at Haight Ashbury. Taught medicine at UCLA and at the University of Texas...which would likely be in Dallas or Houston as UT-Austin did not have a medical school.

or...could be an Arizona university I guess.

David Andrews said...

Leary's so retired, he's been dead 24 years. The Dead/CIA rumor is almost as old.

Baby Face said...
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Olive Iyes said...

+1 & 2

Olive Iyes said...

+1 for the speaker

Olive Iyes said...

Come on count, never too late for a magic carpet ride 🤣🤣

Olive Iyes said...

Didn’t ram dass just die? Too late.

Badsaw said...

CIA Grateful Dead lsd experiments. Mind blowing when you have been a concert goer and whiteness to the dead thing first hand. Jerry is a god and the remaining members held in very high regard. Once I learned about this stuff it broke me free of many ideas.

E said...

@Alf Landon Sidney Gottlieb was Jolly West's handler

Anonymous said...

"Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream" by David McGowan is required reading for anyone who wants to shatter that illusion of and nostalgia for the glorious days of the hippies. That myth ruined so many lives and it's still ruining lives to this very day.
I'm a later Boomer so came of age in the 70s instead of the 60s but it still ruined so many of my generation.
The 80s kids escaped a lot of it but the 90s kids really got fucked over with the resurgence. The 00s got fucked up with something else but the 10s are really being used and abused by the old hippie relics.
It's time to end it once and for all.
It was all the Government. It was all a lie.

Count Jerkula said...

I would dose up and strip down with a hippie bimbo tomorrow. She would need experience tripping though. Had a bad time w/ a broad who lied to me about tripping before.

Rosie riveter said...

Do they drug students where you're from?

OKay said...

@Count It's really not. It's hard to concentrate, and you start laughing, and basically it just takes waaaaay too much effort to have sex on acid.

PhillyWilly said...

+++ miss davie. It cannot simply be coincidence that an abnormally large percentage of
Prominent members of the 60s hippie bands had A direct familial connection to the US military/intelligence establishment.

PhillyWilly said...

Morrison’s parents were referred to as dead. Instead, His dad was alive and well and a friggin admiral for Chrissakes.

Traitorhater said...

I studied at a church for psychics in Berkeley and we had a clinic where really hard cases would come in. One was a someone with a really blown out brain from all the acid at concerts. What I saw was that the acid just basically blew the mind open for anything to come on through. It was very disturbing. Since then I have been really angry at Gerry Garcia and that band. I hate them to this day for what they did (and I followed them back then)

Hoof Hearted said...

"Thew Electric Acid Kool-Aid Test"

Regina said...

The band is the Grateful Dead

Jan 15 said...

Disheartening that there are so many choices. On the other hand, I am glad that so much of the evil deeds got leaked.

Half Domer Homer said...

Rock and Roll wasn't an accident. From the shock of the JFK assassination to the Beatles to lift you up again, and BAM! A new political order slipped right by under your nose while you were high and worlds away..

Half Domer Homer said...

There was a reason that Bob Weir and Mickey Hart spent the summer of 2008 at the Bohemian Grove hobnobbing with globalist scumbags. While there, they stayed at the same small camp as George H.W.(CIA) Bush. Sad for me, the GD was one of my favorite bands till I woke the f*uck up.

Poppies115 said...

The Dead were the house band for the acid tests, it’s definitely them. Leary fits, his papers are archived in California.

Count Jerkula said...

I am used to broads laughing when i pull my pants down, so it aint gonna kill my wood, i just dont know if i could get wood while tripping.

Count Jerkula said...

Half the men in the country served in WW2, so most kids in the 60s had ties to the military

Substance D said...

Ron Turner, the eminence grise of the underground comix movement, announced recently that Jerry Garcia's extensive comic book collection was going up for auction. As the rock and roll deaths were all faked, this clearly indicates that Garcia only recently really croaked.

Half Domer Homer said...

Read "Weird Scenes Inside The Canyon" by Dave McGowan if you want to know how far the military-connected-to-rock rabbit hole goes. Not only were these famous rockers related to military, but they were all connected to each other through military. Also look up the "Lookout Mountain Laboratory" in the heart of Laurel Canyon (on Wonderland Ave) that was constructed as a secret Air-Force movie studio base.
Like i said it was painful, but I woke the f*ck up.

hairydawg said...

Count comes through with the logic. The musicians ' dads had all been officers during WW2. It wouldn't do for a prominent scion to sit out a world war. My grandfather was a muckety muck in nukes for the Navy, no big whoop.

OKay's experience with sex on LSD mimics my own. I couldn't tell what was real and kept forgetting what i was supposed to be doing.

Not sure if this blind is supposed to outrage or amuse. Its so vague

bollybiy said...

I second the recommendation of Dave McGowan's fascinating research on Laurel Canyon, the hippie movement and the intelligence agencies. You can read it for free at CenterForAnInformedAmerica.com/laurelcanyon/

jonaldmcdonald said...

When I had an orgasm on acid I saw fireworks and eletrical sparks all around me. It was awesome.

Jan 15 said...

Has there been any confirmation about Laurel Canyon? Or just the book?

DelilahJen said...
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molly said...

The Laurel Canyon book is probably the most mind blowing book I ever read. Seems like most of the musicians who lived there had fathers who were high ranking officers in Navy intelligence. Bill Cosby was also in navy intelligence when he was young.Dave McGowan, the author, was struck with stage IV cancer and died soon after. He wrote another book that is also mind blowing, Programmed to Kill.

Anonymous said...

@molly same here. Everyone who has ever read the book says the same thing...mind blown.
@bollybiy Thanks for the free link. Everyone should read McGowan's book.
Mind Blowing.

GypseeWind said...

Dave McGowan wrote an excellent book on this, 'Weird scenes at the canyon'

TC said...

Count Jerkula said...
Half the men in the country served in WW2, so most kids in the 60s had ties to the military

2:41 PM

Very true, but most of the parents in Dave McGowans's book were attached to intel,civilian contractors, or very high ranking military. That seems like a pretty high percentage of families with those kinds of connections. There are also quite a few famous musicians in the Laurel Canyon community who were raised together, and some cases attended military schools or academies.

I don't agree with all of Dave McGowans claims but the connections he found in one tiny musical community are a little creepy even for me

TC said...

I'm going to pick The Grateful Dead as the band.
I'm going to go with Leary for the professor, but my gut feeling is that most professors were ans probably still are on the payroll of some agency.

Urban Rosebud said...

Yes. Dave McGowan was an angel doing The Goddess' work. RIP Dave.

Gracie said...

Google Ken Casey and LSD. Definitely the Dead.

MattDaddy said...

I think Timothy Leary was a paid informant for the FBI, so working for the CIA wouldn't be a stretch.

MeliticusBee said...

The University of Texas medical school in Dallas is called "UT Southwestern"
James Ketchum

Count Jerkula said...

The parents were probably children of privilege also and thats how they got into intelligence. So their kids didnt have to get real jobs.

You wanna tell me there were certain people embedded, no argument. You wanna tell me the entire thing was orchestrated and they were all in on it? Nah. What has our government or intelligence agency ever done to show they are that competent?

Count Jerkula said...

How about shrooms? I have had good sex on shrooms. Definitely think lsd is worth a try.

Monkey Mich said...

E has it. Louis Jolyon "Jolly" West. Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, by Tom O'Neill. Goes very deep into this. Probably where this blind came from

thecatwhisper said...

I would also like to recommend dave mcgowan's book weird scenes inside the canyon. You won't look at the those bands the same again. Something was going on a bit fishy. I thought tim Leary and the grateful dead when I read this. I've heard this about them for over 20 years now.

AkhaldanSolo said...

I'm elated that so many people are aware of Dave McGowans work here, it really does mean the word is out that the countercultural revolution was co-opted by the CIA.

These programs are all extentions of the MkUltra, Monarch and Mockingbird mind control experiments that arose from the one on one drug/shock trauma/torture techniques devised by the nazis and Project Paperclip when it moved over to America to program and condition the nation though education, entertainment and politics.

Like the UK's Tavistock Institute who created the Beatles, Floyd, Who and the Stones the American CIA needed bands like this to distract the hippies that were getting too close to that Hollywood scene. The Grateful Dead, The Doors, CSNY, Baez, Mamas and Papas, Peter Paul and Mary and a string of other actors were introduced to take those pesky hippies and distract them from any matters of political importance and start them off on the path to a lifetime of substance abuse issues and sexual deviance, causing a myriad of dysfunctional families across the nation. LSD, too, is touted as only slightly detrimental and temporarily debilitating when the truth is the danger takes decades to fruit, when in late stage LSD damages the nervous system and synapses to the point of schizophrenia in most if the drug is abused or maybe even first time use.

The programs continue to this day with many of the "jam" bands of today that advocate nothing but environmental issues and alternative religion like buddhism or some other god and goddess worshipping cult of the annunaki.

I'm glad to see that so many of my brothers and sisters have "woke" up and you were given certain gifts from that experience regardless of the negativity that pervades the scene, it's now up to you to use those gifts correctly this time.

God bless and God speed you beautiful humans.

AkhaldanSolo

AkhaldanSolo said...

Here are some hippies that are still up to their shenanigans to this day

RACE WITH THE HORNED GOD, THE HART WITCHES, DEVONTE, TINY HANNAH AND THE SCANDINAVIANS
https://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2018/04/24/race-with-the-horned-god-the-hart-witches-devonte-tiny-hannah-and-the-scandinavians/

AkhaldanSolo said...

For a little example of a mnemonic conditioning device for you gen xers that may, or may not have effected you as a child by the boomer parent that let the TV babysit you we will visit Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul and Mary

"Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honahlee
Little Jackie paper loved that rascal puff
And brought him strings and sealing wax and other fancy stuff oh"


"Jackie kept a lookout perched on puff's gigantic tail"

"Painted wings and giant rings make way for other toys"


"Puff no longer went to play along the cherry lane"

PETER YARROW AND DEVONTE, RITUAL STRANGLING, MIND CONTROL, BLOOD RITES, STEPHEN MILLER & WAFFEN SS
https://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2018/06/25/peter-yarrow-and-devonte-ritual-strangling-mind-control-blood-rites-stephen-miller-waffen-ss/

Houdini said...

Yay! AlhakdonSolo is back!

E said...

@Monkey I read the book last year; I highly recommend it for anyone interested in the subject of Manson and that whole SF scene that appears to have been something quite different than the party line legend

Jan 15 said...

But outside of McGowan's book, is there any other confirmation about what he wrote? Does anyone know?

Ann R. Key said...

+1 Hoof, Ken Kesey

designace001 said...

Ralph Metzner, spooks one and all. Handler Valerie Plame
https://realitysandwich.com/34204/beginning_birth_psychedelic_culture/


Bonus vid creating 'magic'
https://vimeo.com/21196772

designace001 said...

Ralph Metzner, spooks one and al!l (handler Valerie Plame?)
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/psychedelic-nostalgia-barlow-on-early-days-of-lsd/

https://archives.lib.purdue.edu/agents/people/2453

Bonus vid
https://vimeo.com/21196772

Mrs Libnish said...

Do NOT have sex on acid. I looked up and saw a skull in place of the face. It all ended right there. And I was prewarned.

Mrs Libnish said...

Pink Floyd for a different answer. Watching The Wall was a big thing back in the day.

Unknown said...

Talking about hunter https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/27/robert-hunter-obituary

Substance D said...

Jim Morrison's father was the officer who orchestrated the Gulf of Tonkien hoax that kicked off the Vietnam war. Problem was, Jim wasn't Capt. Morrison's son. No one knew of this alleged connection until spook writer Danny Sugarman wrote No One Here Gets Out Alive, in 1980, long after the Jim Morrison persona was retired.
The photos that surface of young Jim and his family are all doctored. Many images of famous Jim indicate more than one actor played that role. His death is unconfirmable and the last anyone had heard of the most recognizable actor to play Jim, he was living at a horse ranch in Oregon. Manzarek even said so.
The Laurel Canyon op was part of the larger Operation Chaos and Cointelpro, both operations confirmed by congress, the FBI and the CIA. Is that enough verification?

aaron said...

Ken Kesey

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