Friday, May 17, 2019

Four For Friday - You Need To Pray

I have had blinds about some of the individuals in today's big blind. The blinds all talked about how they used their celebrity to do what they wanted to female parishioners in their church where they grew up. Until I spoke to this A-/B+ list female singer though, I had no idea just how bad ll of this was.

Our singer started recording when she was about 13. She was signed by a management company that also represented the celebrities from this church. The person who signed her was a good two decades older than her at the time. He was in his early 30's and she is 13 or 14. She was told it would be best for her career if she started attending this church and could develop "friendships" with the other singers so they would be able to work better together. So, she started attending. She was also told that she needed to pick one of the guys who were probably 18 or 19 at the time to be in a relationship with because it would be better for her image. So, she picked one and was told she needed to start having sex with him too because she didn't want to rock the boat or disturb the good working relationship everyone had.

So, she started a relationship with this singer who at the time was close to A list. He would always cheat on her with other women and she finally moved on from him and started dating the singer's brother. Well, apparently the man who signed her didn't give his permission for this and the only way she could get his permission was to have sex with him. So, she had sex with this 30 something year old guy and was told from then on she would always have to when he asked. He asked a lot.

She was told the only way all of this would stop was if she got pregnant because then no one would want her. So, she tried all the time to get pregnant and did so while still a teen. They did leave her alone. They also dropped her as a client and she had to rebuild without them. It has been a long road and she has dozens of stories to tell about all the guys in the record industry who used her and others and who continue to try and use her including her on again off again A- list boyfriend who is always leaving her for some new singer or someone more famous and then comes back for a week or two before moving on again.

78 comments:

Tricia13 said...

Selena G/Bieber?

MDAnderson said...

Demi Lovato??

Tricia13 said...

B
I’d say The Weeknd for the other but they’ve been off awhile..?

Guesser said...

Selena is older than Bieber.

sandybrook said...

Demi Lovato/Wilmer?
I also thought this might be Jojo but don't think she fits.

MDAnderson said...

Jonas brothers were super religious

RestingConfusedFace said...

I come to this site religiously because it’s pure fun. Both the items themselves and the guesses. I cannot understand the people who come here to post things like “OMG UR GUESS IS SO DUMB DID YOU EVEN READ THE BLIND” or “WHAT KIND OF LOSER TRIES SO HARD TO BE THE FIRST TO GUESS” . . . . you guys, this is a website that posts largely made up sh*t for procrastinators’ entertainment. If you 1) read this site and 2) are taking it seriously enough that you’re willing to spend time waxing vitriolic in the comments, you’ve got no place on that high horse.

Tricia13 said...

πŸ‘

JT0130 said...

Demi and Jonas brothers seem like a fit. She had a mental breakdown as a teen and was hospitalized. She may have had a miscarriage around then. Was the church the Mormon church?

Moose said...

I'm thinking this could be more of a gospel church than Hillsong. Everyone jumps on Hillsong (and rightly so), but this blind just seems to have more to it than the traditional Hillsong/Biebs/Selena blind.

Any chance it could be New Hope (where Whitney's mom is a monster) or Perfecting (where all the Winans are involved), or another church like that?

Moose said...

BTW, I meant Cissy is a minister, not a monster ;)

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Zebra Seasoning said...

The first name that jumped to my mind was Wynonna Judd, but she doesn't have an A- list boyfriend. (unless she's divorced again?)

HushHush said...

It sounds similar to Jamie Lynn Spears getting knocked up by Dan Schneider. Which is sad because it's across the industry.

Jimbonius said...

I have a restingconfusedface after reading that post.

gauloise said...

@Moose, I was thinking gospel, too. So much abuse there for the singers, esp boys.

Dorvannnn said...

Jasmine V dated Justin Bieber and had a child in 2016. Not sure if its her though.

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Guesser said...

Demi did date a Jonas brother,Wilmer likes to collect famous girlfriends. But the Jonas brothers grew up in New Jersey.

Guesser said...

@Moose, autocorrect may know more than we do.

Moose said...

Yep, @gauloise, I'm pretty sure it's from the gospel world. There's this line in particular that Enty uses that makes me think that:

The blinds all talked about how they used their celebrity to do what they wanted to female parishioners in their church where they grew up.

Nobody "grew up" in Hillsong, they joined it/were recruited when they got famous.

You do "grow up" in a gospel church, however.

peawry said...

Word.

RestingConfusedFace said...

Hey @Jimbonious maybe some inspirational quotes will help. If only I knew where to find some . . . . .

Nma said...

Eh, I don’t buy that it’s Demi and joe Jonas. He’s only 3 years older than her...

gauloise said...

@Moose good catch

I wouldnt be surprised if the 30 -something had a deal with the brothers, he would bring them a bunch of young girls to run around with, than would use these relationships with the brothers to blackmail the young girls.

Nma said...

Did someone date both carter brothers?

gauloise said...

^^blackmail the girls to being with hm, cause he knew the girls wouuldn't sleep with him right away due to the age diff...

InCatNeto said...

Nick Carter/Aaron Carter for the brothers?

Jimbonius said...

I need some inspiration since Grumpycat passed away.

Flashy Vic said...

I first thought the church was Scio and the brothers Masterson, but can't think of a singer that fits (though my knowledge on that subject would be woeful at best anyway) and it would have had to have been at least twenty years ago too.

ElCartero said...

I read where Timbaland and Pharrell and Missy and all of those acts from S.E. Virginia all went to the same church down there. Maybe it's that one.

Stupidpervs said...

Wax away lol ..you mad bro?

MDAnderson said...

There are two brothers in Jodeci and they started out in the church.

Fook Yu said...

Aretha Franklin?

RestingConfusedFace said...

Not mad luv, just don't understand the hate on a site that's pure mindless entertainment. Bad day I guess. But y'all do you. I'll go back to lurking.
RIP, Grumpy Cat. You lived your life to the fullest.

MDAnderson said...

Why are you belittling this comment troll. Guilty much?? The posters that are talked about are usually the ones that never offer a guess and ridicule and belittle other people’s guesses. Resting is right and it’s unnecessary.

MDAnderson said...

Loved your comment and post whatever you want to post.

Moose said...

Puff Daddy, Missy Elliot, Timbaland Aaron Hall, Ginuwine, Jodeci and others were all spent time at Christ Tabernacle Pentecostal Church which was founded in the 1970s in Charlotte NC by the Reverend Donald DeGrate. DeGrate was also a recording artist on WORD (a gospel label), and served as a mentor to many of those acts.

yepthatsme said...

@Resting C face, any chance you are related to Resting B face?

Moose said...

The Jodeci piece might be a key, @MD Anderson. Good guess.

All these artists were part of the legendary Swing Mob, all have a connection to the same church, and a connection to Reverend De Grate with both their faith and their music.

RestingConfusedFace said...

Thanks, @MDAnderson. Commenters like you are what make this fun.
And, yes, @yepthatsme, Resting B face is my far more attractive sister. I'm Jan to her Marcia. Or more like Gilligan to her Ginger.
And with that I'll go.

MDAnderson said...

@Moose Devante in Jodeci helped developed a lot of artists like Missy and Timbaland. I just can’t figure out the singer. But I agree it might be connected to their dad Reverend de grate.

Baby Face said...

My first thought was Kati Perry. She started at about 13/14 in Christian music. She used her real name...Katie Hudson.

Flashy Vic said...

@RCF.

"And with that I'll go."


To rest? You had better tell me lest I get confused.

gauloise said...

Brandy signed as a solo artist with Atlantic at 13, her dad is a pastor and she started in gospel..

in their late teens she and usher "had a little courting session, but never dated" Usher is in the church and has brother in the biz.

Brandy had a baby from a secret relationship, but she was 21, not a teen. though, but close...

not sure it all aligns, though

MeliticusBee said...


This struck me as gospel too
@Moose and @MD +1+1
So I think it is the Christ Tabernacle Pentecostal Church in Charlotte
The brothers would be Dalvin (1971) and DeVante DeGrate (1969) of Jodeci
whose father was the minister - and quite shady

and yes - Missy Elliot, Timbaland, Aaron Hall...were there but is Missy too old? She was born in 1971
Supposedly worked with them after she was 20

tehbird said...

+1

taurus1987 said...

i guessing the singer is ashanti

MeliticusBee said...

This story leads to no conclusions except that the church and family have a lot to hide
https://www.oxfordamerican.org/magazine/item/1628-the-gospel-of-jodeci

Moose said...

I'm wondering if the younger singer could be Tweet - she would have been A-/B+ in the nineties. She got involved with Swing Mob, and with the whole collective of Christ Tabernacle when she was in her early teens. If you look at her Wiki page, she got depressed and left the business and went home (could she have been pregnant?) then Missy called her to come back and record with them again.

RestingConfusedFace said...

@Flashy Vic
And with that I'll go . . . back to lurking.
" . . . it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.”

Astra Worthington said...

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MDAnderson said...

another guess could be Jhene Aiko. She had a baby by Omarion from B2K’s brother. The a list boyfriend would be Big Sean.

MeliticusBee said...

Or it could be K-Ci (Cedric) and his brother JoJo (Joel) Hailey who attended Tiny Grove Holiness church in Pageland SC - about an hour away
still both of Jodeci

and their family rrrreeeeeally doesn't wanna talk

Brayson87 said...

Church, where bad things happen.

Where can I get that bumper sticker? ;)

MeliticusBee said...

Man, the world is so f'ed up
Any of my progeny express a desire to enter any kind of showbusiness, I will throw myself in front of their car to stop them from leaving, get them locked up as insane....anything to prevent this horror.
That is all

MDAnderson said...

This is a great guess Moose. She had a kid in 1990. Rumors of timbaland and Missy passing her around like Aaliyah. She was engaged to mega church pastor Jamal Bryant.

Moose said...

Thanks, @md - but you got everything rolling with Jodeci - I just worked backwards from there. The Swing Mob members and Christ Tabernacle tie into a neat bow for the blind I believe.

JT0130 said...

Wow, thanks to @Moose and @MD I am changing my guess.

Lola said...

What about Hilary Duff. She dated a Carter, has a kid, had a lame singing career and she has that on again off again fiancee. Really it could be any and all of those disney and nickelodean kids.

Caity said...

my thoughts too

Morninglorri said...

Joss Stone and Scientology?

Emmie said...

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fo said...

Britney and Justin

Krissie said...

Wow this is crazy. So many guesses. I'm interested in the reveal. I don't think it's any of the Disney-era stars though

Scandi Sanskrit said...

+1,000,000

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Scandi Sanskrit said...

Nevermind.

I’ve deleted my comments that involve the poor cat because I feel it’s disrespectful to the memory of an innocent animal to mention them/drag them drama in a thread about manipulative humans.

RIP. πŸ’›

I hope the cat’s parents are dealing with their loss okay.

Scandi Sanskrit said...

Manipulative humans are disgusting. πŸ–•πŸΌπŸ–•πŸΌ

Bye, humans.

HouellebecqGurl said...

I'm fully on board with Moose here. Something is tickling my brain about an old scandal here, but it won't come to me.

Also, I guessed a few days ago Kumye would give their kid a Biblical name & they went with Psalm. While being technically right, I would have never guessed that. Wew.

gauloise said...

@Moose Tweet is a good guess, she was poised to be the next big thing and than just ... nothing

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Aoife said...

I'm with Moose. Tweet is a very good guess.

Puddy said...

I've got no idea, but I'll trust Moose with it because he/she always seems to be switched on and the does the necessary detective work.

Paul Saint John said...

@MD Anderson
The Jonas Brothers aren't only super religious but also super gay! How do you square that?

james2051 said...

Gay shame has been a recruiting tool for religions since year dot. "You're a sinner but we're all sinners. Now pray a bit, keep up appearances, start a sham family, and go cheat on your wife every month with a male prostitute. Confess your sins each month and start anew." Maybe if people were just allowed to be what they wanted then they'd be less collateral damage and a lot less hypocrisy.

If people really want to have some sort of relationship with a personal god then they should take the biblical advice and avoid the middle-men who act as religious emissaries but really just want control over people. If they really need that. Personally, I think a person's reach shouldn't exceed their grasp when it comes to these things.

As it is gullible idiots flock to the weirdest religions and cults and then everyone's shocked when the head honcho isn't some positive force but instead turns the operation into some sort of tax-dodging, less than minimum wage paying, brothel...sometimes with added guns and drugs. At what point do you learn to run away from the person who thinks they are some sort of spiritual guru? When he wants to share your wife? When he dictates who your friends should be? When he wants your kids?

Just manipulative humans working the gullible or desperate ones for everything they've got. Same as ever.

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