Tuesday, November 06, 2007

Today's Blind Items

#1 This blonde, female singer was hit on Sunday night by another woman. When the singer realized what was going on, she replied, "Ewwww. That's sick." How about that for some tolerance huh?

#2 This aging B list television comedy actress left the lot her show is filmed on yesterday after finding out production had been halted. As she was driving away, she lowered the window on her car, and said to the picketing writers, "have fun boys."


In keeping my commitment to making the strike end sooner here is a blind item about a producer. Tomorrow if there is no settlement, it will be the turn of a writer.

This producer from a wealthy family is famous for his low budget productions and his screwing of actresses and actors both literally and figuratively. His M.O. is to get his cast to sign what appear to be lucrative back end gross percentage deals. The actresses are in particular thankful and he uses this as a tool to sleep with them. He keeps this up during the filming. After the film is released, he claims the movie has not made any money, and in fact has lost so much, that he has to declare bankruptcy in the corporation he established for the film, thus denying all the payments owed to cast members. He then dumps the actress in question, and when confronted by agents and managers offers a ridiculously low settlement while he keeps adding to his fortune and moves on to his next film and actress.

79 comments:

Reese said...

1. Jessica Simpson
2. Patricia Heaton
3. No idea, but that is despicable.

Moosefan said...

#1-no clue-I could see Jessica Simpsn but not sure....

#2-One of the Desperate Housewives?

Anonymous said...

1. Could be Jess, could be Hilary...to vague to be of any use.

2. Patricia Heaton

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071106/ap_en_tv/hollywood_labor;_ylt=Asm8mpCwzEIbPZv14bM.cYdxFb8C

I guess its fair to say Julia Louis Dreyfus is suspect, although I dont know if anyone would call her b list or aging, as she looks fantastic, and was on Seinfeld and has an Emmy or two.

mooshki said...

I don't know anything about any producers, but what an awesomely juicy blind item! Be careful, Ent; you almost make me want the strike to continue so we'll get more of these.

Anonymous said...

didn't bob yari or whatever his name is screw over everybody who was involved with "Sideways" and "Crash".

Bomber Blue said...

1. gotta be Jess she tried it with Cece and don't like it no more1
2. i thought of heaton too
3.who cares they are either using the producer to get a job or just stupid for accepting the deal!

Dijea said...

#1 Jessica Simpson
#2 Patricia Heaton

???? on the producer, but shame! shame!

whimsicalrationale said...

1. Carrie Underwood or Hilary or Jessica.
2. Joely Fisher OR Christina Applegate. She is sort of aging (she's been on TV a long time what with her Married W/ Children days) and it said she is on a comedy (Samantha Who)

3. No clue, but hmmm.

YahMoBThere said...

1. Don't know and don't care. Just because the personal thought is disgusting to her doesn't mean she's intolerant. Personally, I can't picture it either without gagging, but that doesn't mean I'm intolerant. And by the way, the thought of being with a woman is equally disgusting to my male gay friends.

2. Patricia Heaton.

3. Not interested.

I think it's time for some reveals. I'm really falling asleep here since the Timmy/Shimmy disaster.

dee dee lefrak said...

Twisted Sister you crack me up yes this site has been mocked since TIMMY/SHIMMY.

YahMoBThere said...

dee dee, well join the fun!!! Mock away....lol.

noel said...

C'mon all you writers and producers that read this blog... sign up and start spilling!!

Additionally, it is OK if you add some blinds of your own in the comments section (hint, hint??)...

I am sure dear ol' ENTY won't mind.

Just another question? In america is it derogatory to say "have fun boys?"; just wondering?

C U all around...

YahMoBThere said...

Noel, I don't think so. I think she was just showing some support of them.

Or am I missing something, people?

Production Girl said...

The producer blind is horrible. People are so fucked up sometimes.

Unknown said...

#3 - Charlie Band?

Anonymous said...

Yeah I'm wondering about the Patrica Heaton thing. Seems kinda snarky to say, but it may not have been entirely mean spirited. Maybe just something stupid she said because she couldnt think of anything better.

Anyone else notice that EL hasnt done any reveals in a LONG time?

Etobicoke Votes said...

"Have fun boys" to people on strike is insensitive. (Strikes aren't fun, more so if you live pay-cheque to pay-cheque) This sounds like someone who doesn't respect unions or the whole striking process- a very right leaning Republican. Patricia Heaton.

Brenda22 said...

ENT
Are you running out of material, because the first 2 blind items stink. Was I the only one who read them and thought...ok, so what?

And saying "ewww, that's sick" is not intollerant. I bet Tom Cruise would have the same reaction if "Kate" ever actually wanted to get it on with him.

Anon said...

It's hard to say what the intention was behind saying that. It could have been fuck you or I know it's going to be a tough thing for you. It's stupid to assume.

Trix what an original thought. I think Twisted Sister noticed just a few posts above yours.

plot said...

If "have fun boys" was meant as support, then this isn't Patricia Heaton. She probably equates unions with abortion and suicide bombers.

If said sarcastically (like - I'm going home, getting paid, while you have to strike) then she might be the one.

Winston Ono said...

Wouldn't Patricia Heaton would be A list according to Ent's rating system?

Tony De Santis said...

The producer sounds like Steve Bing, the father of Elizabeth Hurley's illegitimate child. He comes from a wealthy, well known family in NYC. Also, he originally denied parenthood of the bastard, so he sounds a little douche-y.

jax said...

1- Jessica Simpson..that in no way means she is intolerant..you'd get the same reaction from me and Im as gay friendly as Hamburger Mary's during Pride week.
Maybe the chick was fugly.

Come on.now THAT'S PC EL!

YahMoBThere said...

Anthony, please don't refer to an innocent child as a bastard. He or she had nothing to do with it, douchebag father or not.

Maja With a J said...

How much does a writer on a sitcom or late night talk show (like Letterman for example) make? I'm just curious. Like, can you afford to not work for a while if the strike goes on?

Unknown said...

I want to say Carrie Underwood and Christina Applegate.

Everyone hates on Patricia Heaton (may be deserved, i dunno). before I saw "Comedy", I wanted to say Sally Field for kicks.

Anonymous said...

Anon...ok...way to go out of your way to be negative to a complete stranger...didja want me to kiss Twisted Sister's ass as penance?

GammaGirl said...

1. I think we can rule out Britney haha. No for reals, this reeks of Chestica.

2. Patricia Heaton. I don't care what she seemed like on "Raymond" the woman is a bitch!

Norseman said...

Julia Louis Dreyfus was reported as joining the picket line, so I don't think it's her - unless she was driving off after her stint on the line and just saying a friendly goodbye.

bookstalker said...

#3...Jack Rapke? Never heard of him but there is that random pic with Allison Lohman down below. You don't ever see her on her, or him either for that matter. A hint?

Mother Campfire said...

Bastard by definition is a fatherless child. Now, you're sensitive to the plight of children, though you can insult all the gay people you want calling them 'sick'. (ahhhh, but that's right - you have tons of gay friends so that makes it okay.)

I don't see how it's okay for someone to say 'ew that's sick' instead of 'no thank you, I'm straight' and then in the next breath say someone can't refer to a child born out of wedlock the textbook defined word.

I usually agree with you Sister, but not today, sorry.

jax said...

Omigod you guys are all so friggin PC. Its a fuckin blog,get over it.

parissucksliterally said...

Rule out Julia Louis-Dreyfuss....there are pics of her picketing with the writers.
Tina Fey has been pictured too (though no one guessed her)

I think Jess Simpson for #1

YahMoBThere said...

Melissa, WHERE did I EVER say that gay people are sick??? I would never say that because it's bullshit, so kindly don't misquote me. And really, talk to gay people. They think screwing a straight person is sick. That's just the way it is.

And yoohoo up there invoking my name, please leave me out of whatever you two are bitching about, okay?

What Jax said.

YahMoBThere said...

I am really pissed. You can disagree with me all you want, but do not EVER fucking misquote me.

Anonymous poster said...

hEATON'S SHOW WAS SHUT DOWN AND WON'T BE COMING BACK UNTIL AFTER....

Anonymous poster said...

if at all

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Unknown said...

1. two things, 1) it's Carrie Underwood, not Jessica Simpson 2) not necessarily intolerant, but it is rude and immature.

Judi said...

# 1 - Sounds like Underwood.
# 2 - Sounds like Heaton being snarky.
At this point, legally, there are no bastards. By virtue of a child's existence, they have a father. He may choose not to recognize the child but the child obviously has a father somewhere. It took centuries but it's definitely a "du-uh." Anyway, doubt it's Bing but don't really have any other ideas. There's certainly no shortage of con producers in town.

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Anonymous said...

And yes, though I'm no fan of Liz Hurley, I think we can all agree that the REAL bastard in the custody case was Steven Bing.

dixiebell said...

Underwood, Heaton, and Steve Bing for #3.

Cooper's Mom said...

i immediately thought of Jessica Simpson for the first one.

why is Heaton hated so much? i really don't know much (ok, nothing!) about her but i keep reading that she's some animal bitch and am just curious as to why?

can anyone enlighten me please! oh and i agree with you Twisted, it's been far too long since we've had a reveal.......

blooter said...

twisted sister: get a fucking life and quit getting worked up in the comment sections on blogs. you're a miserable, intolerant and intolerable homophobe.

Unknown said...

twisted sister: "can't picture it either without gagging" and "disgusting" - no, let the record show you never said it was "sick."

Unknown said...

And here I thought that 'some', 'anon', and 'trix' were the same person posting with precisely 4-character usernames and being rude all the time in EL's blog.

YahMoBThere said...

Oh, marian, please. People like you WANT to look for bullshit, so think whatever the fuck you want.

captivagrl said...

hey old cranky farts...... relax....stop typing...stop cursing...you're boring....so sad

Unknown said...

Going back to the blind items now...

I could care less about the first two blind items. Both are very boring.

For the producer blind, wasn't there stories about John Singleton screwing the Hustle and Flow actors out of money? Wasn't Taryn Manning very vocal about it?

I don't know if JS is from a wealthy family though.

link88 said...

Hez said on her blog that the CDANCON recap was "complicated" and she wasn't sure how to explain it, but an explanation would come soon. Of course, that makes one think that the weekend/event had more to it than just a nice lunch. Sure, she might suddenly be so busy at work that she can't spare any time, but it doesn't add up. I think it is to generate some discord while simultaneously avoiding the reality that it wasn't that successful.

I don't know if DS was actually there or not. She isn't that huge of a star that it isn't feasible, of course, and the photos seem to be her. But if she is a willing participant in all this, then why would techno-savvy (and starstruck) Hez fail to document her voice or any conversation? Hez is into digital photography (look at her flickr account she opened for all to see) and even on her site brags about acquiring a new version of Adobe Photoshop. She is a freelance writer and public relations person. This was the best she could do for her own conference? I doubt it. If DS is Hez/Ent's friend and is in on this, why wouldn't they get a video of her saying "Hi, it's me,love ya, Ent!" or something? Instead people disingeniously say, why should she bother, no one would believe her anyway...(what?!).

On Flickr, Hez's contacts (or whatever) include Domestic Chicky, the same advertiser on this site who Ent credits for helping with his technical stuff and site.

Ent and Hez both use citiscapes on their identically organized blogs. Hez uses the same citiscape on the site she organized for CDANCON.

Hez sounds like Ent. Ent does not sound like any lawyer I know and it defies logic that he spends all day digging up and commenting on this stuff "for us."

Hez was a moderator on the board and started most of the topics. Hez chimes in with clarification for Ent every time there is any confusion. Hez rarely just comments on the site she loves so, usually she just clarifies what Ent meant or plans to do. There are times, esp. when the site is down or experiencing problems, that she mysteriously comments on how she doesn't know what is up as if she has silently been reading it all along.

Hez apparently knows Ent personally. She introduced him to the swimsuit designer that Hez represents and that he plugged on his site a few days ago (the designer gave his famous clients swag, and Hez is her PR person - wouldn't they probably meet face to face after all that? That part defies logic. He fills her in on his plans and helped tout her conference, organize gift giveaways, and the plans for it on his site. Hez also somehow personally got to know Dom. Swain, enough to email with her like friends and to convince her to be "keynote speaker" at the lunch.

Apparently, "Ent" did not pay for the lunch (after all that fuss, in his name!), Hez and the attendees had to. Ent is supposedly a rich attorney and Dom. Swain has done him favors, and he won't pay for the lunch or help organize accommodations. Yet Hez, who admits to having to pennypinch, has to have the attendees help pay. Makes sense.

I think Hez runs this site, while doing her other gigs/blogs. That could be why so many of the commenters are weirdly from Vancouver. I think Hez has a lot of friends and some are in on this and either help her or are some of the commenters that keep the site going and the Ent fan base strong (esp. the strongly sarcastic/flippant ones). I am not saying this site doesn't have its own readers, I just think there are commenters planted to keep it going when it is slow or when Ent/Hez need defending.

It is a fun site - I read it almost daily. I don't want it to go away. I just think this latest conference thing turned out to be a bit insulting to regular readers. I think the lawyer persona should go away and Hez, if it is her, should just keep up the gossip commentary with the occasional blind that she somehow is able to dig up, true or not.

Don't bother writing hateful replies, because I don't care! And I read this because I choose to, even aware of the hypocrisy, so go figure!

YahMoBThere said...

"hey old cranky farts"


LMAO, Cap!!!

bmini said...

Phooey,

Thanks for the post, it was interesting.....and I admire that you are able to state your well thought out opinion without being rude and/or vulgar. I just have to say though....I am one of the people from Vancouver, and I really do not know Hez or Ent or anyone from this blog, outside of this blog. I don't think any of us know each other in the real world....I don't think there are that many posters from Vancouver (I think there are four of us?)...maybe we are just more vocal about where we are from??

Molly said...

Phooey if you read the comments on her site it also sounded like Hez was pissed off because Enty only gave her a one way ticket to LA and didn't help her book a hotel room. I guess when you're a public relations person you can't afford to pay your own way and have no idea how to book a room yourself. P.R. does stand for public relations doesn't it?

YahMoBThere said...

Maybe it stands for pubic relations.

link88 said...

Sorry, bmini, for being wrong on that part. It does seem like there are an inordinate number of Vancouver commenters, but it obviously is coincidence in your case! I am not saying I know anything, just speculating. Of course, I could have the whole thing wrong, who knows!

Marco D. Minpin said...

HARRIET --

To answer your question: Guild minimum for a 5 day a week talk show writer hovers around $3000/week. For an anonymous sitcom writer, the salary usually is around 4 to 6000 per week, plus $18 to $21000 per full episode script they write. The average staff writer writes two full epsiode scripts themselves per season (at the 18 to 20 per) and in addition collects their weekly salary for 36 to 40 weeks per year.

It definitely is a lot compared to a real world job, but take home pay after taxes, agents, managers, etc. is significantly lower.

Plus they get residuals. (In most jobs, like building homes, people get paid once. and just because the new owner then sells the house, it doesn't mean the original builder gets a percentage everytime it changes hand).

As for actors and residuals...remember when the casts of "Seinfeld" and "The Simpsons" held out for bigger back-end percentage based on the success of the show? Well, judging by that logic, every project they've been involved with that has failed, they should give their money back to the producers. Because if they feel responsible for a show's success, they should also take the responsibility for its failure.

But that's just me.

plot said...

What's wrong with being a bastard?

plot said...

"As for actors and residuals...remember when the casts of "Seinfeld" and "The Simpsons" held out for bigger back-end percentage based on the success of the show? Well, judging by that logic, every project they've been involved with that has failed, they should give their money back to the producers. Because if they feel responsible for a show's success, they should also take the responsibility for its failure."

Wrong! They held out for bigger pay for exactly the right reasons - that they were all to recognizable as characters on hit shows and would NOT be able to carry other shows because of the huge exposure of the successful character.

Friends and Seinfeld actors knew exactly what was coming and wanted some protection. None of them get points in current profits (neither do writers, so you are wrong there, too) so they all opted to hold out for a bigger, per episode, contract.

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anon said...

Nice job Phooey!!! I like what you said, and I'm impressed.

TS- PUBIC Relations cracked me up! Too cute!!

I also believe Hezzers is Ent. And I'm fine with it. I have noticed that the Timmy crapola lost alot of regular posters, which is a shame. There are a few names we never see any more, and that's ashame. Although I rarely read now too. I'm no Hezbian though... I really don't care much for her at all.

Oh- and there than one "anon".... I'm the one who thinks Ent is an ASSHOLE :) For the record.

anon said...

Sorry- More than one "anon".....

lyz said...

I think the aging tv star is Jean Smart on Samantha Who...Christina Applegate's "mother"....

Unknown said...

Nicely said Phooey

Lipstick Mystic said...

The main thing that has never added up for me regarding Ent vs. Hez as being owner of this blog is how the hell do you post three, four times a day, complete with carefully uploaded photos, and wonderfully snarky text (because I love it all!) while maintaining a career as an entertainment lawyer? Unless you're very low down on the totem pole, like a legal assistant or something? But even then, don't they work your ass ragged because you're still a flunky?

I had a blog for a while devoted to Angelina Jolie. It was an experiment to see if I could earn money via Adsense while having fun posting about a fascinating celeb. I very quickly found out that even posting once or twice a day was EXTREMELY time consuming. So when I look at how many posts are going up here, it just doesn't add up as a lawyer doing all this work.

That said, I still have fun here, and I greatly appreciate all the effort that goes into this place! Put some Googleads on here already so your blog can start paying you something. Blogads don't always pay very much unless there is real synergy behind the advertizer and the blog audience. Is anybody here really interested in blooming teas or whatever? I'd be far more likely to click on a google ad related to some kind of celebrity material like ringtones, dvd's, etc.

Just my two cents! I believe in rewarding bloggers for all their hard work because I know firsthand how much work it involves.

So let me click on your adsense ads, already!

LM

YahMoBThere said...

LM - I completely agree with you. There is NO WAY that an attorney in any industry would have the time to sit on the computer. NO WAY! In fact, no attorney would want to. They're too stressed out to bother with bullshit like celebrity gossip.

Of course EL isn't an attorney. And I think Phooey is right in saying that more than one person "contributes" to the blog.

It's too bad the Shimmy/Timmy fiasco led to hard feelings and jumping of the ship. I miss a lot of the regulars that used to come here. I think some of us stay because we enjoy the community, not because we believe it's one attorney putting the site together.

anon said...

I miss some of the oldies too. Timmy really ruined it for me. Now this fiasco with the convention. I really think it's just not the same anymore.

YahMoBThere said...

The Timmy/Shimmy thing ruined it on one level for me, but I still enjoy reading a lot of the gossip here rather than going to several sources - and to be honest, I trust outside gossip more now that the Timmy/Shimmy incident took place. And again, I like the people. Even when I get into scraps with people, it's over the next day as far as I'm concerned (well, in almost all cases - there are a couple of people whose names I see and just blow past their posts without wasting my time reading them).

I'm not getting what the fiasco is about the lunch, though. Why is it a fiasco?

Angela said...

The blind item about the producer is a little too much candid. Royalty calculation one of the most widespread source of litigations between producers and other parties supposed to get a share on grosses. Many deals don't specify if the share is net or gross. The guys who sign the deal assume it is gross, the studio claim it is net, minus the costs of promotion, distribution, etc. Through "creative accounting", fairly successful movies can actually stay in the red for years. And for big hits, hundreds of millions are at stake. Just look at the litigations over "Lord of the Rings". Saul Zaentz (who owns the rights to the novel) won $94m as his share was miscalculated and Peter Jackson and his wife have also sued New Line for similar reasons.

The same methods are also quite widespread in music. For instance, Roger McGuinn, leader of The Byrds, claims he has never received any royalty from his labels as a recording artist (writing royalties are handled separately). He just got the advancee from the record company and after 35 years, "Mr. Tambourine Man" was still supposed to be in the red (the album reissue costs are put in the expenses column, for instance). Most active artists never notice the trick from the beginning because they're living on the advances. It's only a few years later that they realize they have never got a dime from their big hit and it's too late for them to renegociate their contracts.

Any entertainment lawyer in L.A. is supposed to know this. Artists get screwed everyday. The only original thing about this blind item is that the guy shags the female lead (then, why did Steve Bing, if it's him, invest $40m of his own money into "The Polar Express"?) and declares every time bankruptcy for the company that produced the movie. It's quite shady and would get the attention of many investors and insiders.

Hez said...

I think there are only about 4 of us from Vancouver (cyberfriends like Jax, bmini, orbison - anyone I missed?) so there goes that tired old canard. And yes, I have friends on my Flickr page that are also on CDAN. SHOCKING, I know! Sorry, be right back - I think 60 Minutes is at the door.

Just because I "do" Communications and PR doesn't mean I'm making money from it... or have any skill at event planning. If someone with actual CORPORATE PR experience like Mistik had run the conference, I can assure you all it would have been smooth as silk. We would have had a working video camera, a real venue and a lot of other stuff. As it is, we had a gathering and I had a bloody good time.

I don't know why on earth I am explaining this, but PR is a sideline - I work for friends and artists and am usually paid in beer, bathing suits or bud. Wanna make me feel bad about that? The line forms behind my dad.

I've never met Ent in person, I don't know who he is, and I've stopped thinking I ever will after being unable to connect with him in LA. Yeah, I was pissy about that. So sue me.

I offered to put on a "conference" for fun, to meet the people I like, to meet DS and to help out an internet buddy who kept me entertained this last year when some heavy personal shit was going down for me.

To get shat on after the fact by someone who didn't attend, didn't support it, doesn't even believe it happened and is going to trash talk me and this blog no matter what anyway... well, I guess I expected all of that, and that's why I'm busy with a lot of other things right now, none of which have included revealing personal details about my life in little comment boxes on this website. I think I'll be doing even less of that in the future.

sue.bee said...

#2 - I don't think it could be Heaton considering this pic http://admin.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/photo.jpg

But what do I know?

Unknown said...

you sure ad alot of time to reply, yet no time to post about the conference in the past- what- days of hectic activity surrounding your job?

i'm just sayin...

link88 said...

To set the record straight, I never questioned whether the conference took place, I questioned why you (Hez) couldn't get audiotape or video of DS.

I am sorry if you feel "shat upon," Hez. You have provided so much information about your personal life to the people on this site (via your blog, saying you correspond with Ent and he asked you to be a moderator, saying DS emails you personally, and finally setting up this conference and CDANCON site). It is a little hard to feel sorry for you feeling that your privacy is violated. No one is demanding that you "prove yourself" to not be Ent, or asking for your head. I expressed my opinion that you are Ent, based on what appears to me to be logical connections. If you aren't, laugh it off and be flattered that you have developed such a personality on this site.

You opened yourself up to all of this. Every link to your blog or your CDANCON site lists bios and resumes of yours, and you do hold yourself out to be a public relations person with extensive experience at seminars and conferences. You post your photography and you filmed videos for your blog and you bragged up a job at "a behind the scenes of making movies" site where you blog with indepth knowledge about movies/producing. It is not believable that you wouldn't know how to organize a small get-together and videotape or somehow get footage of DS at the lunch. Overall, you didn't, who cares? Don't worry about writing about the lunch or your trip there, I don't think anyone really cares at this point anymore, so don't do anyone any favors. If you are NOT ent, maybe you should just focus on other blogs because your involvement in this one got a little weird.

Unknown said...

Hey Twisted Sister - what's with all the swearing? A little too defensive. Yes, I'm a lesbian but no agenda here. You lost your vocabulary to swearing because you believed you were misquoted. I simply pointed out you indeed did not use the word "sick" - what's with all the hate?

On another subject, several posters have referenced the "Timmy/Shimmy disaster" - can anyone explain the disaster part to me please? I'm familiar with Timmy/Shimmy as I read most of the postings here on the blog, but what about it made people leave the site?

YahMoBThere said...

marian, I will calmly ask you to go back and read through what I wrote. I never said being gay is sick. NEVER. It isn't. I won't even try to explain what I meant for fear I'll be misquoted again. And yes, I swear when I'm mad and being misquoted so that I'm made to look like I'm something I'm not. It infuriates me. If there are rules here about language, kindly point them out to me because I never got the memo.

The Timmy/Shimmy fiasco. You know the story, right? Then you know that part of the story on the front end was that the man received an award for a role he played, that he was in movies playing the part of a woman, etc. This gave off an impression that wasn't the story that was given during the reveal. The real story is that Timmy did some stand in work for Shimmy and Shimmy won the award for the work she did. Timmy didn't win anything. He was just a stand-in. It was very misleading and a lot of people lost trust in anything posted here and decided to leave.

If you do a search for Timmy/Shimmy, and read through all his hints and read the reveal, you'll see what I'm talking about. The blind item sounded like one thing and ended up to be something else. A lot of people spent time researching things, so they felt duped and misled and left. Some of us felt duped and misled and stayed. And I don't know about the rest.

Hez said...

Phooey, I want to thank you for that exchange of emails we had this morning.

My anger at you completely dissolved and I am glad we got to a point of mutual understanding. I feel really good about it now. I thanked you on my blog, too.

Thanks and best wishes to you and yours...

Unknown said...

Thanks, Twisted Sister, for taking the time to explain the Timmy/Shimmy fiasco to me - I appreciate it. I had no idea there was such backlash from it.

YahMoBThere said...

You're welcome, marian. Hope all of this other stuff is behind us and we can get back to just having fun here. That's the way it will be on my end.

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