Friday, January 11, 2019

Blind Item #2

The estate of this permanent A++ list musician has been very busy behind the scenes recently.  They are spreading a lot more money around to buy favorable PR, which is currently in the works.  This will supplement the estate’s paid online bot armies, and is all timed to counteract an upcoming film about the musician. The estate will be pulling out all the stops, in an attempt to insulate their only cash cow from what could be a devastating assault upon the musician’s reputation.

82 comments:

Tricia13 said...

Prince?

MDAnderson said...

Elvis?? Only one I know of is Elton John and he is def alive

Nutty_Flavor said...

There's an Elton John movie on the way, "Rocket Man." Is there someone Elton feuded with that might appear in that movie?

Jenn said...

Prince or MJ. Are there movies about either in the works?

Nutty_Flavor said...

Sexual abuse documentary on Michael Jackson at Sundance.

rosie riveter said...

Sundance and MJ I believe.
I hate to even throw this out there with Tricia & MD but there it is my dear lovelies xo

Tuesdi said...

It is Prince
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/30/ava-duvernay-prince-documentary-netflix

Nutty_Flavor said...

Per Rolling Stone: "Leaving Neverland focuses on two alleged victims and how they were sexually abused by Jackson, and how they came to terms with it years later”.

Tuesdi said...

And DAMN I miss him and his music.

rosie riveter said...

Yes, this.

Tricia13 said...

Happy Friday RR❤️😘👍💃

Nutty_Flavor said...

The two men have already sued Jackson's estate without success, says Rolling Stone. Wade Robeson and James Safechuck.

Film also interviews their families, wives, etc.

Nutty_Flavor said...

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the sense that Prince's estate is as well-organized as MJs.

Tuesdi said...

You may be right. I thought Enty always referred to MJ as A+++ but I could be wrong. Or he changed his rating.

MDAnderson said...

I can see this being MJ but I don’t see this damaging his reputation. Like R kelly there has been a lot evidence and people will still buy his stuff.

Nutty_Flavor said...

I agree, MD, that this is "known information" and not likely to surprise anyone, particularly since the two men have already sued. The danger, I suppose, is that in this environment Jackson could become toxic enough that it becomes impossible to use his music as background, in commercials, etc.

I will say, though, that I know a lot of 21st century kids who love MJ. For as long as they've been alive, those allegations have been out there, and MJ is still very popular.

Tricia13 said...

Michael is a perm A++++ so ger(never heard him described as a musician here?)-songwriter and dancer obv.) Entertainer.
Played the piano a bit I think but not sure about the description

Tricia13 said...

Singer*

Og said...

wha about aretha? her estate is in the news today

pwal said...

Thinking it's MJ. The 10th anniversary of his death and maybe the estate has something planned to commemorate it. I'm curious whether the subjects of the doc are Robson and Safechuck, who had their cases against the estate dismissed. If it is, then the estate shouldn't do $h!t to counter the doc. Both had the chance to get justice during the '05 trial, but didn't. While some in the public will sympathize, others won't because they had the opportunity to seek justice but seemingly seeking financial remedy many years after the fact.

Tricia13 said...

Same almost said her but she’s a singer/entertainer unless entire just being laaaaazy lol

MDAnderson said...

Agree Tricia about the musician part but I just can’t see duvernay going in on Prince. She would be ostracized by the black community. They idolize him and MJ.

Joseph P Blow, Kokomo PD said...

Prince's estate is notoriously unorganized. He died intestate.

ElCartero said...

Per that article, Prince's estate is cooperating fully with the filmmakers. I say the MJ doc.

Tuesdi said...

I am sticking with my Prince guess, lol. Even though I miss him and his talent.

Tricia13 said...

True indeed.
I miss Prince big. Loved him. One of the best(and kindest)

Flashy Vic said...

At risk of annoying Tricia (sorry) but how many on here still actually believe that MJ wasn't a paedophile?

I'm pretty damn convinced that he was.

Smalls said...

Gonna go with MJ. They already have a kneepads article out. https://people.com/music/michael-jackson-estate-slams-documentary-alleging-sexual-abuse-children/

pwal said...

Although I'm pretty sure it's MJ, I wonder if it could be George Harrison. Given the blind about him impregnating underage girls in Bangladesh (or in that general location), damage control would be absolutely necessary. Mind you, there's no movie coming out about him that I know of, although an anniversary involving one of the Beatles' could be celebrated this year.

Flashy Vic said...

@pwal.

Fifty years since John married Yoko.


That's all I got.

Adrastia said...

Only two *'s and the term "musician"? I know that it's useless to nitpick Enty's choice of words sometimes. But I don't think it's MJ because of the wording. Although this may be what the blind wants us to guess. People argued over the James Dean blind because some details supposedly didn't fit. But when everyone guesses the same thing everyone else just goes with it. It kind of makes me wonder if CDAN is a social experiment. XD

sandybrook said...

I don't think Prince has paid bots defending his rep because when he was alive he had no fucks to give. I think it's MJ and we know there are bots for him, at least according to Enty and the Enterns anyway.

Tuesdi said...

OK This JUST came in to my Twitter feed:
https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/what-you-want-baby-you-got-it-aretha-franklins-biopi-1831672278?utm_source=theroot_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

I would consider Aretha a musician.

Trapped said...

Michael Jackson estate

Nathan Morgan said...

Michael Jackson was not a child molester. God damn it, enough already. I'm not a paid bot. I actually have relatives who were friends with him and they had two YOUNG SONS. Nothing ever happened. My aunt considers him to be her best friend and she still cries when talking about him. The two sons are now adults and still speak lovingly of him.

I know MJ did this with other families- treated them like royalty and befriended them. And many of these families took advantage and accused him of these crimes. My family never took advantage of him. He was always good to them and they never believed any of this.

I met MJ when I was 7 because he came to a big family event. I still remember shaking his hand and taking pictures with him.

This doc is all lies once again. Enty keeps spreading BS lies about MJ. None of it is true.

Thorne said...

Just because MJ managed not to molest your two cousins does not mean he didn't molest anyone.

Unknown said...

I feel the accusations absolutely destroyed Michael's life. Which had already been so tragic.
Of course people accused him.
The world press also mocked George Michael, for meeting some man in a bathroom.
Just like they lash out at Mariah Carey, when she gains weight.
It's an evil, jealous world.
If you get too much fame, they will bring you down.

AkhaldanSolo said...

Nathan you DON'T get to have the last word. We have no reason to doubt YOU on your claim but there is WAY too much more info in the public realm that you could EVER hope to sway with your simple opinion. That's just the facts Jack we all have our opinions but the amount of physical information out there indicate otherwise. There is also information to the contrary, the fact is that all of it is "out" there and it's never going to dissipate, meaning the entire population is NEVER going to say "Michael Jackson was not an abuser". Soon, most people will be saying quite the opposite but that doesn't matter to you anyway we can see you're not going anywhere, but that's ok because you're just one dude who's hopelessly uninformed.

Michael Jackson worked very closely with aid organizations that were affiliated with tainted vaccines and child sex trafficking (Americares), and the CIAj. Michael Jackson was abused as a child by his father Joe and sold into sexual slavery for elite gain, plain and simple as was the rest of the family. Michael Jackson was programmed by Walt Disney into Peter Pan regressive mkultra/monarch shock therapy. Choose to believe it or not at your own peril I'm pretty sick and tired of explaining it to you idiots.

Brayson87 said...

Oh looks like the shills starting showing up, lets give them a warm CDAN welcome.

NMAtty said...

Definitely Mike and this new docu coming out

Missy Bigbritches said...

@pwal - Patti Boyd's book "Wonderful Tonight" already made George Harrison to be a neanderthal who expected women to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. AS much as that pains me.

Brayson87 said...

@nathan here you go, did he ever show your relatives his literal closet?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3653380/Michael-Jackson-s-secret-underage-sex-closet-Inside-raid-uncovered-King-Pop-s-extensive-collection-photos-featuring-naked-teenage-boys.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3655438/Why-did-13-years-proof-Jacko-s-depravity-revealed-Mail-knows-pictures-police-raid-Neverland-home-disturbing-just-released-shatter-protestations-innocence.html

Brayson87 said...

@nathan, were your relatives white? Rumor is that he preferred a different race for his other activities.

Nathan Morgan said...

Yes, my relatives are white.

Also, AkhaldanSolo, I was listening until you said this: "Michael Jackson was programmed by Walt Disney into Peter Pan regressive mkultra/monarch shock therapy."

I have read the information out there and will not dispute that it is suspicious. But I truly believe my family when they tell me MJ is innocent and people made up lies to make money off of him.

MJ felt more comfortable around kids because he never grew up- there's your Peter Pan syndrome for you. He liked spending time with kids but wasn't sexually interested in them.

Brayson87 said...

Makes sense, rumor was that he liked hanging out and playing with the white boys, but it was Latino boys he seemed to have a different fascination with.

Nathan Morgan said...

Then why are all the "accusations" by white people?

The Music Dope said...

It's MJ:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jan/10/michael-jackson-estate-sexual-abuse-documentary-leaving-neverland-dan-reed-sundance

MDAnderson said...

@ Nathan please don’t ever use the he didn’t abuse people I know excuse. Most sexual predators take advantage of kids who have an absent, overwhelmed or hands off parent. They usually don’t target kids in loving homes with a good support system. But don’t you worry the Jackson family will still continue to get their money.

Brayson87 said...

White privilege probably, like I said it was just a rumor. He may have enjoyed molesting boys of all races.

Brayson87 said...

It's funny how there are these sacred cow celebrities that people get riled up about their blinds, but then slowly but surely the supporters fade away as more evidence comes out and the mainstream starts to accept the truth about their crimes.

Or maybe the celebs just run out of money to pay shills.

kiki71 said...

My two cents worth at this point is that there is a 50-50 chance he was a pedophile or not. I mean, not just random odds but say in character assessment. What he did with being preoccupied with child friends and Neverland could have been a sexual predilection OR it could have been a child thrust into the spotlight with a controlling abusive father who created these fantasy worlds and stunted relationships as a defense mechanism and fantasy life. He seemed so devastated when accused that it makes me think he may have been molested himself OR he created such a preserved and pristine world in which kids were safe that he was leveled by the accusation. I think he was a very unusual person, period, full of demons and self loathing. In my gut though, for some reason I think NO but maybe that is the glass half full part of me that makes me so PLEASE NO WALL vs the flip side. I don't know.

Brayson87 said...

@kiki, MJ was my favorite musician for many years, I was in denial for a long time. But the evidence just keeps stacking up. It gets to the point where the mental gymnastics to keep believing his innocence is exhausting. Sometimes if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is actually a duck, not a squirrel in disguise.

Ulf said...

There are also people who believe the Earth is flat and that OJ was innocent and that Elvis still lives...

notthisagain said...

this doc is supposed to be brutal

Baby Face said...

I believe he was an abuser...hated himself for it...created this child fantasy world where he was a big kid to convince everyone and himself he was a good boy.

Baby Face said...

No grown man with pure intent is that obsessed with children...especially children of one gender. I dont care what his excuse is.

gauloise said...

@Brayson I gave him the benefit of the doubt, thinking he was just stunted and asexual, until that closet of porn was made public

LooksLikeCRicci said...

I work in the field of child sexual abuse. I understand what Nathan is saying, but would echo the thoughts of others:

Predators *pick* who they perp on. This isn't a situation where MJ couldn't control himself around every child he came into contact with. Predators develop a very keen sense of observation-- I'm sure MJ could tell you which of his friends (i.e., victims) had parents who were not observant, parents who were not present... in other words, MJ knew who the vulnerable children were and he jumped upon that.

I have no doubt that MJ was a good friend to Nathan's family and did not perp on the boys. But you can't convince me that he didn't perp on others. There's too much evidence to suggest otherwise.

Morning Lorri said...

I don’t think anyone would be surprised by what Prince did, so I’m going with mj- me too relevancy

Kimberley said...

@Nutty _Flavor - Elton John fired his long-time manager John Reid - I think it might have been because of a feud between him and Elton's husband David Furnish.

Joseph P Blow, Kokomo PD said...

Morning Lorri: I think some people would be surprised at some of the things Prince did (like knocking on doors for Jehovah's Witness around Minneapolis), but probably not for the reasons that make sensational documentaries.

Brayson87 said...

@gauloise, That closet is what pushed it beyond reasonable doubt for me too.

Jooles said...

I heard today HBO is behind this MJ doc being shown at Sundance.

Morning Lorri said...

I’m going with Miles Davis. And even Prince knocking on doors didn’t raise this eyebrow.

hunter said...

I'm with Brayson & gauloise, that closet of sick stuff was the gavel slam of my opinion of the MJ case.

@Nutty_Flavor - I totally agree with you, your comment made me laugh. Yeah I think Prince's "estate" is his sister, a cousin and some friends pounding out texts on their cellphones, not the seething & highly capable machine that is the Jackson behemoth.

As for MJ's activities, I totally cosign LooksLikeCRicci's point - it wasn't that he couldn't control himself, it was how he chose to do when he chose to do it.

I highly suspect that even Macauley Culkin who widely declared MJ never laid a hand on him, we KNOW Mac has seen some shit - if you asked him, I'm pretty sure he would (these days) acknowledge that whatever MJ did on his own time could well have been inappropriate - Wasn't Mac the top guess for the person who was told not to go explore the music dungeon in the back garden?

Morning Lorri said...

Miles Davis was on AZT when he died, which is interesting.Birth of the Cool is the doc.

Unknown said...

No grown man co-sleeps with kids they're not related to.

Just another day on this stage we call ... life said...

Too early for Aretha Franklin. Much, much more will be revealed...ex hubbie, sons, etc.
This will become pubic over the next few months/year. This is excluding the one son whose real father is

megan said...

The (proven) false accusations against Michael Jackson destroyed his life yet people will ignorantly believe the lies and smear campaigns against him without really delving into the facts...shame on them and on some of you. This smearing of his name and character, manipulations and outright lies about him, even in death, is never going to end.

You need proof of the truth about Michael Jackson? read here:
https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/

Aoife said...

I was going with Elvis but Miles is an intriguing guess.

Shawni said...

No adult man ever has children sleep with him in his bed, unless he is their father. That's one huge red flag. I used to counsel abused children, there is so much evidence of child sexual exploitation on MJs behalf.

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astra worthington said...

Wow I never heard that about George Harrison. Although I think the Beatles are the most overrated band of all time, Harrison had one solo song I loved when I was a toddler. The rest, meh. They all seemed like creepers and weirdos like all celebs. Especially Lennon and his horrendous wife.

astra worthington said...

MD, you’re not lying. Lol go to Lipstick Alley and read anything even tangentially related to MJ or Prince. Any slightly critical comment of MJ gets a ton of stans flocking to comment. Almost as bad as Beyoncé stans! I rarely see anything bad about Prince but I have no doubt his super fans would react the same way.

As an aside, wtf is with this stanning shit? Why are people so invested in people they don’t know? What causes this? It’s fascinating yet scary.

astra worthington said...

Are you from Lipstick Alley? Lol

astra worthington said...

Why? Men can want a certain type of woman as much as a woman can want a certain type of man. If a woman wants to be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, who cares? Consenting adults and all of that. Why are only certain types of relationships “acceptable”? And it’s always only the really out there ones, anything traditional is derided and the participants treated like lepers.

kelly said...

Mj all the way. Closet full of porn, huge settlements, creepy. Also perpetuatong a cycle that was inflictwd on him as a child.

Paul Saint John said...

So why did he enjoy the company of kids and acted like one? Was he mentally retarded? (I'm dead serious here) It's the only other explanation other than MJ being a raging pedo.

Paul Saint John said...

Well, blowing off random guys in public restroooms IS a legitimate object of ridicule. Particularly if you're rich and famous enough to be able to get your rocks off in other less unsavory ways.

Paul Saint John said...

Alternatively, Michael Jackson could hace been mildly retarded and a pedophile at the same time.

Paul Saint John said...

Please, not "pubic"! Come to think if it, I'm not interested in Aretha's private life going public either.

greenfrog said...

I thought this was Chris Cornell for sure.

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