Thursday, December 29, 2011

Old Hollywood Blind Item

This is kind of a mix of old and new Hollywood. New in the sense that not everyone is dead. In fact, one is very much alive and kicking and working and is known by people of all ages. She is a performer. She is also a B list actress both in movies and in television, but has had her most recent fame come because of television acting. Our actress has had a number of marriages. One of them was extremely interesting. Her husband had an affair. I know, I know. Shocking that someone would cheat. It is with whom he cheated that is so so interesting. He cheated on our actress with her mother's husband. The mother was quite famous in her own right. Maybe even more so than the daughter.

50 comments:

CridChild said...

liza minnelli?

Rita said...

I love Old Hollywood blinds, they're so juicy!

But sorry, I'm stuck on Madonna, which has no business with old Hollywood. So no good guess.

Court said...

liza!

Lissette said...

Curtis family?

amazonblue said...

Liza, Judy and Peter Allen?

BigMama said...

almost wasn't even a blind....LOL

Moose said...
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farmgirl said...

Carrie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds

Suzanne said...

Hmmm, Angela Lansbury? Her 1st husband was reportedly bisexual

Moose said...

so which one of Judy's husbands? I am guessing not Vincente, since the clue does not say father.

Mark Herron? Biographies have stated he was gay, even though he was Garland's husband, and also had an affair with Tallulah Bankhead.

von said...

Liza Minelli/Peter Allen with Judy Garland's 4th husband Mark Herron? Timeline works. And Mark Herron was gay.

nancer said...

what has liza done besides 'arrested development' on tv and that wasn't really recent. ditto for carrie---what tv has she done acting on?

also, this sounds like the performer is alive, but the famous mother is not.

Moose said...

Carrie Fisher was only married once (to Paul Simon), so it can't be her.

Rita said...

Anything to do with Bett Midler?

MontanaMarriott said...

I think you guys nailed it, except I am not sure why Enty would say that Judy was bigger than Liza when they both are huge stars in their own right and both Oscar winners.

timebob said...

the father of Carrie Fisher's child is Bryan Lourd who Carrie used to refer to as her husband. They were never legally married. But he left Carrie for another man.

So that one is kind of a gray area.

Could be her. But I like the Liza guess.

stephenk said...
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Merlin D. Bear said...

@Montana
Both are iconic, but lets honestly face it... no contest, Judy wins over Liza.

And I'm on the Liza/Peter/Mark train.

Prairie Prima Donna said...

I was SO excited for this to be Carrie Fisher till I found out she's only been married once.

How about Melanie Griffith for the actress and Steven Bauer from Scarface for the husband who cheated (they were married from '81 to '87.) Tippi Hedren for the mom and her ex husband Luis Barrenechea (married to Tippi from '85 to '95.)

I dunno, I think I am reaching.

stephenk said...

how about

b-list actress....Vanessa Redgrave
Husband- Tony Richardson ( openly bisexual)
mother's husband- Michael Redgrave(also openly bisexual)

it's probably wrong...but whatever :)

cdanluva said...

Chaz Bono?

Rita said...

LMAO!!! @cdanluva.

Prairie Prima Donna said...

@stephenk - love that guess!

selenakyle said...

Connie Stevens and her (I think) daughter, the Fisher actress?

All I got...

PM said...

wouldn't it be fun to pretend this was Rumor, Efron, and Ashton?

crila16 said...

Liza hasn't had her most recent fame because of Television though, has she? Otherwise, Liza is a very good guess.

Rita said...

@selenakyle - didn't she write a book about that? Being raped at 13 by her father? Or I simply didn't understand your guess?..

ShanKat said...

@selenakyle, Joely and Trish Fisher are definitely not the blinders...but they *are* Carrie Fisher's half-sisters. Such a tiny town.

Sherry said...

I think of Vanessa Redgrave as an A but then Enty's ratings are all over the place sometimes. Having said that I got nuthin'

henryp52 said...

carrie fisher was married to byran lord who was gay

Liza said...

Definitely Liza and Judy! And come on, Judy is way more popular than Liza. She was Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. That movie was made in 1939 (72 years ago!) and is still watched by little kids all over the world. She will be remembered for years. Not to mention her Carnegie Hall CD, known as one of the best live performances of all time. Liza is great but Judy is absolutely the best.

Also, they are both huge gay icons known for marrying gay men.

@crila16 - Liza played Lucille 2 in Arrested Development a couple of years ago and that is one of Enty's favorite shows. I can't remember anything else she has done recently so it seems to fit to me!

Moose said...

@henryp - I'll admit it's confusing - I thought they never married - and both IMDB and Wikipedia only list Paul Simon as a husband for Carrie - but a number of other spots on the web refer to Lourd as her husband.

RenoBlondee said...

I just think that is gross. Sleeping with your mother in law's partner, and your daughter in law's partner? Eek!
That's too close to incestous even though I know it's not, LOL

Andrea said...

Liza seems the right guess, but I'm trying to make this about Lisa Marie Presley, Michael Jackson and Marco Garabaldi but sadly it doesn't fit.

Karmen said...

Liza and Judy FTW.

Seachica said...

Is Liza a b-lister? I'd put her at A-

Cheryl said...

I love me some Peter Allen! Liza is A list to anyone over the age of 50. I'd put her at B now though. The funny thing is that Liza and Judy both had more than one gay husband, but that is for another day I guess. Liza/Peter/Judy+gay husband du jour for the win.

Laurije Bee said...
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CateringbyGeorgeanna said...

Wild guess but she came to mind 1st. Sally Field Steven Craig/Margaret Field Jock Mahoney(Jock Mahoney was Gregory Peck & John Waynes stunt double)But can being married 2 times mean a number of times and having 2 Oscars be considered b list?

Henriette said...

I like the Liza/Judy/Peter guess. Liza did Law and Order: Criminal Intent a couple of years ago and does make tv guest appearances. Judy is bigger than Liza.

Jennifer H. said...

No way is Liza anything but a solid-forever A-lister. Plus, she does not have recent fame from television. This isn't Liza. I think the wording is odd about the mother. The blind doesn't say she's even in show business, but somehow known in her own right. I am drawing a complete blank. Every time I think of someone, I realize there's something major that doesn't fit with the blind.

MadLyb said...

I like the Liza guess. More often than not, the first guess in the comments here on CDAN is usually dead on.

And I have to chime in to say I also LOVE the old Hollywood blinds. I still don't think Enty dished the real reveal about Timmy/Shimmy.

kelley said...

@Prairie Prima Donna, I like your guess if only bc I'm still a little in love with Bauer. ;) Must be an '80s thing.

crila16 said...

It's definitely got to be one of the below.

1.Kate Hudson – Daughter of actress Goldie Hawn and singer Bill Hudson.

2.Liza Minelli – The daughter of actress/singer Judy Garland.

3.Lorna Luft – The daughter of actress/singer Judy Garland.

4.Carrie Fisher – Daughter of actress Debbie Reynolds

5.Mariska Hargitay – Daughter of actress Jayne Mansfield

6.Jamie Lee Curtis – Daughter of actress Janet Leigh and actor Tony Curtis

7.Isabella Rossellini – Daughter of actress Ingrid Bergman

8.Melanie Griffith – Daughter of actress Tippi Hedron

9.Joely Richardson- Daughter of actress Vanessa Redgrave

blankprincess said...

stephenk is correct. Whether the other clues fit her family or not (meaning there could indeed be another case of this happening!) the situation described here fits Vanessa Redgrave precisely. There was a story about it in the UK Daily Mail just a few months ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1384460/Cursed-legacy-Vanessa-Redgrave.html

(Strangely enough, when I first read this article, it included specific hypothesizing that Vanessa had caught her husband and her father in bed together, and that is what led her to get divorce. All such references have now been removed from the article. Hmmm...)

1) Actress: Vanessa Redgrave

--Is she B List for both movies and TV? She *was* on Nip/Tuck every now and then. Also has many stage ("performer") credits.
--two official marriages

2) Actress's Husband: Tony Richardson

--father of both Natasha Richardson and Joely Richardson
--known by friends to be either bisexual or gay in 1962 when he and Vanessa married, and carried on numerous same-sex affairs during their marriage
--purportedly left Vanessa and his daughters to be with Jeanne Moreau

3) Actress's Mother: Rachel Kempson, aka Lady Rachel Redgrave

--famous British stage actress and "matriarch" of Redgrave acting dynasty

4) Actress's Father/Actress's Mother's Husband/Actress's Husband's Lover: Sir Michael Redgrave

--hugely famous stage and film actor
--bisexuality first publicly discussed/acknowledged only posthumously in a 1996 BBC documentary

AKM said...

RE: Vanessa Redgrave...would we say that her mother, Rachel Kempson, is more famous than she is? The blind says she is, and I say no way. If I saw the name Rachel Kempson, I'd have no clue who she is. Even if I saw her billed as Lady Rachel Redgrave, I'd assume she's related but I'd still think Vanessa is more famous.

I have no better guess, though. Like Prairie Prima Donna, Melanie Griffith DID pop into my head as well. I could see Don Johnson doing this. Has she done any "famous TV" lately? Hmm...

Christopher said...

I have heard that Liam Neeson is bisexual.

cheryl90501 said...

Gywenth Paltrow

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