Monday, July 23, 2018

Blind Item #8

Over the past several months, three attempts have been made by two different freelance journalists to access a three acre section of a multiple acre property still owned by the family of an A++ lister. Even though security in most of the property is fairly basic, this three acre section has trip wires, an armed security response and now a barbed wire fence is being built around the three acres. Superficially there is nothing remarkable about the three acres. It is empty wilderness that is parched dry much like the rest of the vast property. About eighteen months ago some wildlife was in the area and would not leave the three acre area. It was never ending and a wildlife exert was brought in to see why.

This wildlife expert was not asked to sign a NDA because the owners didn't think there was going to be a reason to have one signed so the expert investigated without having to keep their results secret. That has since changed, but for the first several days, the expert told several people what they discovered and why the wildlife was going crazy. A mass grave had been dug up by the wildlife. The owners assumed it was the bones of small animals and the area was a feeding area. Nope. The bones were human. There were lots and lots of them scattered throughout the area. The wildlife had dragged them to all corners of this area.

Apparently what has leaked out is the bodies are about 25 years old. There have always been rumors floating around that around Christmas when these bodes were buried that this at the time A+ list singer visited. Not only did he have his way with the wife of the owner (who knows nothing else and would have said something for sure), but also, as a thank you present from the owner was introduced to some young tweens who were visiting because they were homeless orphans. Things got out of hand and the story goes the bodies were buried where no one would ever look. Maybe not people, but the wildlife did.

There is definitely something there being protected that didn't use to be and for no apparent reason.

120 comments:

Tricia13 said...

Michael Jackson’s neverkand?

Tricia13 said...

*Neverland

MrsAmiss said...

Michael Jackson or the USA’s Jimmy Seville and his Neverland ranch.

Brayson87 said...

This part sticks out, the owner's wife

"Not only did he have his way with the wife of the owner (who knows nothing else and would have said something for sure)"

Sal Salington said...

Wildlife digging up 25 year old corpses.

Uh huh.

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Brayson87 said...

@Sal, yeah wouldn't they have been skeletons by then?

Moose said...

Jackson's family does not own Neverland any longer. Colony acquired it in 2008 as part of the financing deal that bailed MJ out, and that required him to go back to work.

Guesser said...

The Jackson Family does not own Ne verland Ranch.

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trufflepig said...

From what I've read, it usually takes about a year for a corpse to rot.

What I don't know is if the bones of a skeleton still contain bone marrow (which might have some nutritional value for animals)

trufflepig said...

Probably not

Ells said...

A++ lister owns property and was married. A+ list singer visited and had his way with owner's wife. Visiting singer was introduced to the tweens as a thank you (for what?) and things got out of hand.
This doesn't really sound like it has to do with Neverland.

Sara, Making It Work said...

Does this have anything to do with the revealed blind about the bodies buried on Hearst property?

MontanaMarriott said...

So not MJJ and Neverland just with this line alone "Not only did he have his way with the wife of the owner (who knows nothing else and would have said something for sure)" Can't see Lisa Marie letting herself get pimped out by MJJ even though the marriage may have been one big sham.

Guesser said...

Maybe this has to do with the blind about the murderer rockstar?

chillip said...

scattering would have happened long ago.

NL co-owned by estate and Colony.

LE was *all* over the house. The entire property?

A+ visitors in 1995?

My.answer.is.xyz said...

maybe family still owning the property is a red herring cuz everything else fits. about 25 years ago was when first allegations of abuse surfaced. he was also married to lisa marie about that time.

tookiesmum said...

Bono, GWB's ranch.

plot said...

@Sal

There would be no meat left on those bones to attract any wildlife, no stink - so no vultures or coyotes, no nutrition left - so no insects.

Damn Enty thinks people are dumb. Sadly, he has been proven correct.

Laurie M said...

Were the bodies of 25-year-olds, or had they been there 25 years? They "were buried around Christmas".
It's not really clear what state the property is in, just that it's desert-like. Could even be Mexico? Could this be a NXIVM blind? I think the bodies were of ~25year-olds, not buried 25 years. What happened w/ NXIVM around Christmas?

MontanaMarriott said...

Also isn't MJJ always "permanent A++" according to Enty?!?! I can see the A+ list singer at that the time which would have been at or around 1993 as R. Kelly who was also known as a producer. The tweens were probably offered to him as a thank you for producing the singer in questions song/album

GrgryPckry said...

Bush ranch.

Vessimede Barstool said...

Trump of course. He's buried Stormy Daniel's old silicone implants on the 9th fairway at Mar a Lago.

Anyway Ellis is right, I think this isn't an MJ it's Trump blind, don't know the property but 25 years ago he was married to Marla Maples. Anyway if Ent has the story on lock she needs to call Mueller, #Resistance, #retardedblind #dyinglaughing

Ells said...

The blind says they were orphan tweens, not 25 year old adults. There is also no mention of what the A++ list owner was famous for. No mention of which state or country the property is located in.

Sallysal said...

FACTS FROM ABOVE:
Parched land = California

"still owned by the family of an A++ lister" implies the A++ lister is deceased.

A++ lister let the A+ singer sleep with his wife.

Wife is a bigmouth and has no loyalty to the deceased A++ lister ("who knows nothing else and would have said something for sure")

If they have this kind of armed security, it implies great wealth is still held by the family (plus its part of "vast property")

25 years ago, makes it 1993.

Sinatra?

Unknown said...

Other parts of the world are having drought like conditions, not just California. Why does it have to be in America?

EB said...

MJ, Neverland, and R Kelly

Surrender Dorothy said...

MJ was married to Lisa Marie in 1994, 24 years ago, and it's safe to assume her relationship with him was rarely if ever sexual, therefore it doesn't seem a stretch she would have hooked up with some "A+ list singer" but not necessarily be involved in the more sinister goings-on. And Neverland was obviously always hosting tweens, especially disadvantaged ones. Not sure who the visiting A+ singer would have been ca 1994/95.

Liz Pop said...

And why haven't the police been called?

Pip said...

Casey Kasem from the property description, but raankings don't jibe.

NatalieKay said...

What about the Playboy Mansion/Bunny Ranch?

plot said...

Come on. The blind clearly states that the corpses were 25 years old. So unless there was a peat bog available, filled with noxious gases and anaerobic bacteria to keep the corpses intact, there is no environment which would keep meat or marrow on those bones that long. No animal is going to show the slightest curiosity.

Ells said...

The playboy mansion was sold before Hefner died. That was my first guess but his family does not own the property.

Tricia13 said...

Mybe Babyface did the singer /producer?

Ells said...

A corpse could mummify in extremely dry conditions. Not sure that animals would be attracted to a dried out corpse. It could also be that this is a fake blind.

Brayson87 said...

Yeah I mean even if they were sealed in ziplock bags 25 yrs is a long time without refrigeration. Maybe a fresh corpse was buried there recently and the animals just kept on digging.

Morning Lorri said...

Never land is 3 acres.In 1994 Michael Jackson was married to Lisa Marie Presley. This was when child sex abuse rumors came out. Paul McCartney was staying there when making the say say say video in 1988, so he bought it from owner William bone.

Sd Auntie said...

R Kelly's new song I admit is out today. Maybe him visiting somewhere overseas?

Sagan said...

THANK you @SallySal - I thought Ol' Blue Eyes right off the bat. Bodies buried after being disposed of by Frank's Mob connections. Makes sense to me.

Phelps said...

Barbara Sinatra would have been in her 60s. Not sure what kind of A list singer gets down with her and then goes through a dozen tweens.

Darwinite said...

The largest property I can find listed for Sinatra is 5 acres for Villa Maggio, which sold in 2015.

mud said...

herbivores prefer old dried up bones because they are easier to chew and eat. sometimes google is NOT your friend. ew.
here's linkage to a morbid story about badgers digging up bones that are hundreds of years old. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/badgers-dig-up-graves-and-leave-human-remains-around-cemetery-bu/

Nor Cal said...

Robin Williams? The fires in Napa and Sonoma last fall reached his estate in Napa.

Dena said...

Random guess: Muhammad Ali (home in Arizona), singer James Brown. Ali would have had Parkinson's at this time and may have let his wife have some side-action and he had a long history of cheating on her (also had a relationship with a 12 year-old). James Brown...well we all know about his issues. Not sure if the home was ever sold.

Krab said...

Robin Williams' ranch sold. And I can't believe he would be a party to that anyway.

Dena said...

I should say "relationship", obviously that was non-consensual.

Nor Cal said...

I was wrong. Robin William’s Napa estate was sold before the fire.

Cail Corishev said...

The animals might not have had to dig them up. They could have been buried shallow or the ground eroded away. And yes, animals could still be interested. Raccoons will come up on your porch and dig in potted plants because they smell the fish meal in some potting soils. I had some beef bones that I boiled clean for stock and dumped out in a compost pile. Years later, my dog still digs one out once in a while. It takes very little to draw their keen senses.

Pro tip: if you need to dispose of a body, throw it in a pen of hogs. City people are stupid about body disposal.

Brayson87 said...

+1 mud, I'd forgotten that animals love chewing on discarded antlers for calcium and other nutrients, bones wouldn't be that far a stretch.

Ells said...

The things you learn about animal scavenging habits...

HushHush said...

Murdoch, Hearst, Getty, Jobs. Still owned by the family of A++ lister, could be divorced, not deceased.

mud said...

@cail corishev, don't be too hard on city folks. they know nothing about pigstys or abandoned wells or boarded up mines. i was country when country wasn't cooooooooooooool...

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Jon Feltman said...

Plot, can't wait until your head explodes in a beautiful pink spray. Pedophilia is at the center of world governance, the wealthy, and power, and always been. Fuck off you simpleton.

Jae Reekay said...

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

There is so much bullshit in this blind i can smell it through my monitor. This sounds like a plot to a cheesy horror movie, which means that none of the "facts" make a lick of sense.

La-Juice said...

Sorry, but like others, calling bullshit on the premise- no wildlife would - just now, 25 years later- be sniffing out corpses. the bodies would long have decayed.

gauloise said...

so wildlife dug up 25 year old bones and have been feeding on them for 18 months.

How many homeless orphans were visiting and got killed on one night by one singer for animals to live off their bones for almost 2 years after a quarter century ?

This seems fake

Rufus II said...

@Morning Lorri - Paul McCartney and M.J. collaborated in 1983 on Say Say Say. He never stayed at Neverland because M.J. didn't have it until around 1988. Shortly after their collaboration on Thriller, they fell out over M.J. buying the Beatles catalog that McCartney was planning to buy.

T. W. said...

R Kellybsong:

http://sandrarose.com/2018/07/r-kelly-confesses-in-19-minute-video-i-admit-it-i-did-it/

Rufus II said...

Oops. Just read that Macca was there during Say Say Say, but it wasn't owned by Jackson. He was interesed in buying it later.
So Macca did stay there, but before Jackson had anything to do with it. The rest of my comment stands.

Pilot Gal said...

I think this is Arizona or Texas, not California.
1. Enty says about 18 months ago is when the wildlife was visiting. That would put the timeframe at January 2017.
2. Enty then says that the A+ list singer visited around Christmas. That would be Christmas, 2016. Wildlife would have visited very quickly after the bodies were in the ground so January, 2017 fits.
3. Property is still owned by A++ lister's family so the A++ lister died very soon after the Christmas visit.
4. Bodies are about 25-years-old (meaning the people who were buried were about 25 when they died). They may also be bodies of young tweens mentioned in the blind as well.
So...I'm going to be looking for an A++ lister who died around January, 2017.

Sal Salington said...

So let's assume for a second this makes sense. It doesn't really, but let's play along.

3 acres isn't much on any kind of "vast estate", so it can't be some obscure location or no one would even notice. If it was in the wilds of New Mexico, for example, who would ever notice 3 acres fenced off?

So let's think in or very near a populated area.

Second, we have wildlife activity concerning enough that you call in an expert. Again, no one is going to notice raccoons or possums or even deer enough to call in help. So think predator. Puma, maybe, or more likely a bear. That's something you'd call in help for.

With everything else, I'd be looking for a large family-owned estate in southern California, but not deep in the desert.

NancyFromNebraska said...

@Sal
That is very specific.

Sal Salington said...

I suppose if it was an active winery you might call in experts for lesser wildlife. And people might notice if part of it was suddenly fenced off. I'm not so sure bodies would last so long in that kind of climate, though.

Random1010 said...

Unless I missed something... other than "wife of" the clues could also, easily be talking about Graceland. Especially since MJ/Lisa were married around 25 yrs ago. Probably a long shot but this is what happens when you drink wine with lunch. You think too much.

mud said...

you can't make up this shit: herbivores will eat old bones for the calcium and phosphorous. it's called OSTEOPHAGIA.

Muckduck said...
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Kikibunny said...

Ronald reagan's 700 acre ranch in santa barbara...frank sinatra the singer and nancy

Brayson87 said...

Are we positive this isn't the village from The Village?

Sal Salington said...

The real reason this makes no sense is you'd call in a clean-up crew that you have to trust once, not a security crew that you worry about forever. Bring in some people from far, far away, have them clean up, send them back to far, far away. Problem permanently solved.

Kathryn said...

Would Hugh Hefner be A++? He was married to Crystal in 2017 and died that year in September. They basically have a zoo on the property. They could fence off a section and it would go unnoticed. Maybe a bear got in.

Brayson87 said...

Having to guard mass graves on the family estate, talk about first world problems.

Cail Corishev said...

I think the 25 years refers to the time since burial, not the age of the victims at death. That sentence could go either way, but later we're told the victims were tweens. Also, it talks about there "always being rumors," which sounds like longer than a year or two.

Around here, there are quite a few small graveyards and burial plots on private property. In some cases, they date from before it was illegal to bury family members on your own land. In others, they are just small graveyards left behind when churches or communities disappeared. I don't know how common that is in other places, but a small graveyard (3 acres isn't huge) could look like a good place to dispose of a few more bodies. And if you don't hire pros to do it right -- maybe you don't want more witnesses -- it would be easy not to put them deep enough.

So there's an idea that would explain why this area was already sort of set off from the rest. One thing I'm wondering about, though: how many tweens would be provided for a visiting star, and would that account for "lots and lots" of bones? I guess it could, if they were scattered around and you'd never seen that kind of thing anymore.

By the way, it doesn't say the wild animals "lived on" the bones, only that they kept coming back to the spot and that they dragged the bones around. Dogs (or wolves, coyotes, etc.) will do that, even reburying them elsewhere to save for another time.

Random1010 said...

That made me do some research. Not now, but in late 2016, early 2017... southern and middle Tennessee did in fact go through a significant drought. Graceland has 14 acres... Hmm...

Jeannies Bottle said...

I'm thinking the owners are Kennedys, the singer was Sinatra. The Shrivers?

LuLu said...

love that the wildlife expert told a bunch of people... time to leak it!

mud said...

+1 i'm with Tricia, too.
neverland is still co-owned by the jackson estate and colony northstar. it's still for sale.
r. kelly wrote jackson's no. 1 hit you are not alone which was released in 1995 which was the year after he married lisa marie. r. kelly hadn't been caught pissing on people yet, but he sure was not welcome for high tea due to his scuzzy marriage to aaliyah.

Gylly said...

Wait for the twist...

plot said...

@Cail

Neither example you site is one of 25 years.

If there were attractive bones in that area, to be eaten for minerals and calcium, animals would have dug them up long ago. Suddenly doing so 25 years afterwards, doesn't follow.

Look at how found buried bodies of missing people end up after a year, two years, even 10 years. There are shreds left because YES animals will dig up anything that smells of decay. Animals suddenly taking an interest at 25 years is ridiculous.

Sally said...

Don’t know about the singer but I live in Santa Barbara and based on the description of the property, the Reagan Ranch could work....big property, “parched,” family, weird security measures...

Sally said...

I would also think about vineyards - there are some heavy hitters in Santa Ynez, Paso Robles and Napa/Sonoma obviously - all big properties, “parched,” a lot of celebs/business people own vineyards

pwal said...

Could the singer be Don Henley? After all, there was another blind about him getting coked up and raping teens during a holiday - Thanksgiving, I think. Maybe that initial experience didn't scare him.

mud said...

once again...badgers dig up bones from a cemetery and the bones are hundreds of years old. ew.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/badgers-dig-up-graves-and-leave-human-remains-around-cemetery-bu/

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GoogleSleuth said...

@plot I usually agree with most of what you post (and cringe at all the hate you get - keep on keepin’ on, brother/sister), but bones are very often unearthed by wildlife. Their keen senses of smell go beyond flesh. The only reason I say this is because I have taken many classes in forensics, and that’s actually the way many cold cases resurface and/or get solved. And I’m not saying that it’s Neverland Ranch, either. Just providing some info :)

GoogleSleuth said...

@Nor Cal, that would literally kill me. I still miss him. His was the only celebrity death in my lifetime to have made me weep.

GoogleSleuth said...

He/she never said that it wasn’t. Stop deflecting. We’re all here for the same reasons (or at least I hope we are). Stop hating just to hate, and just do you.

MaeShannon said...

The wildlife expert found human remains and didn't report it to the police? Huh.

GentleBreeze said...

I think enty is weaving a story around the sudden increased security of a parcel of land.

MeliticusBee said...

@tricia, @mud
Sick but I agree
MJ for dead A++
Wife Lisa Marie
A+ Singer, pedo creep, possible murderer R Kelly
Year 1995
Neverland Ranch section

Lisa Marie split in January 1996

Matthew Johnson said...

how is Hilary tied to this is what we need to be discussing.

plot said...

@mud

I'm learning more about badgers here this evening.

The grave digging phenomena seem to be localized to the UK (and how!) though there are some instances in continental Europe. It appears to coincide with loss of habitat and the need for burrows in a country where graveyards are some of the only natural areas left. The bones aren't eaten but rather thrown out of the new burrow.

So maybe that's where this BI is set, though I kinda doubt it with the depiction of the arid environment.

Interesting fact, badgers will bury dead cows, with incredible speed, to eat over the course of several days - added for the ew factor.

Here's another interesting article for you -

http://mentalfloss.com/article/77119/6-archaeological-finds-made-badgers

So it's possible that a badger was creating a new den and tossing the bones around in the process.

William Lawrence said...

Sally if you are talking 25 years ago that would be 1993. The Gipper would have been 82 and in poor health. He would be diagnosed with Alzheimer's the next year.

And Nancy being given for favors at the age of 72? Really?

Melody Clark said...

Gilman Hot Springs, Scientology headquarters near Hemet, CA

Aimless Spectator said...


Marlon Brando's atoll in Tahiti would fit these facts. It's a low atoll so very parched, there would be small islets around the atoll to bury bodies in, there isn't much security for the resort needed, the Tahitian Petrel is a burrowing bird and isn't about leave where is has burrowed of course, would have a tendency to spread any bone remains around, and it would attract freelance journalists because Obama is planning to write his memoirs there.

By 1993 or so Brando was in no shape to sexually service a woman, he needed Michael Jackson to buy him a golf cart with an oxygen tank to just get around Neverland, and the wife would be pleased for the attention.

Aimless Spectator said...

Melody Clark said...

Gilman Hot Springs, Scientology headquarters near Hemet, CA


Immense security out there, long has been. Doesn't fit.

Mike said...

This is Australia near Ayer's Rock. Azaria's blue matinee jacket was also found around a pile of bones.

Kno Won Uno said...

Actually, Trump owns an empty plot of land in Florida backwoods and no one knows why. It gets mowed and whatnot, but the neighbors have no idea why he bought or keeps this totally empty property.
I saw a story on it in the last 6 months, but i’m too lazy to scroll through a search for Trump Florida property/empty.

Kno Won Uno said...

We don’t know that. The story may have been squashed.

PazPG said...

Chuck Berry?
Ties to the Jacksons, the Presleys and even the Clintons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVnoyKsYLY0
Was tween inclined and a pervert.
Had plenty of real state (another of his inclinations).
https://people.com/music/chuck-berry-estate-50-million-business/
Died March, 2017
In apparent good shape in 1993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVqrwPKtFkE
If you have cardio endurance to sing and move like that you can pretty much do anything you want elsewhere.

I think we will end this year utterly sick, shocked and exhausted.
The undercurrents of indecency were and are big. Our level of brainwashing and denial, too.

#wwg1wga

PazPG said...

https://theoutline.com/post/1258/why-can-t-we-be-honest-about-chuck-berry?zd=1&zi=ddbyfaic

Velora said...

@Kno Won

Florida backwoods are neither parched nor dry. It rains almost every day somewhere in Florida.

@Paz

#HoldTheLine

PazPG said...

@Velora
#WhoisQanon

mud said...

@plot. badgers look cute, but they are so damned mean. the more you know, right?

cali had a terrible drought that seems to be over. wildlife moves during any sort of massive/prolonged weather change. it's survival. humans aren't smart enough to do that any longer, wildlife is and critters that might not have been in the area where these alleged bones are located might be there now getting their supplements on in a morbid way.

you have to also consider that when people lived on or near this land they would have taken precautions to keep pesky critters out/off the land. for instance there are things amusement parks use around their perimeters to keep snakes from slithering onto the grounds and joining your kids in the wave pool. different types of fencing and traps can be laid out for other animals/reptiles/etc. those precautions were probably stopped when the property was abandoned.

remember that these bones were probably not buried inside any kind of casket or a container so they were more vulnerable to the varmints.

plot said...

@mud

So I'm discovering! The honey badger is a known badass but so are his cousins, these guys -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14i02f31WDI

So I propose the answer to this BI is...drum roll...a badger!

Thanks so much for informing me about these beasts and the kind of opportunists they are.

Mad Hominem said...

Just to clarify:


Apparently what has leaked out is the bodies are about 25 years old. There have always been rumors floating around that around Christmas when these [bodies] were buried that this at the time A+ list singer visited. Not only did he have his way with the wife of the owner (who knows nothing else and would have said something for sure), but also, as a thank you present from the owner was introduced to some young tweens who were visiting because they were homeless orphans. Things got out of hand and the story goes the bodies were buried where no one would ever look. Maybe not people, but the wildlife did.


So, the kids were tweens at the time of the incident, things got out of control (as they do), and the kids were killed and buried. (Convenient about them being homeless orphans, right?) So the murders occurred 25 years ago, more or less, which puts them in the early 1990s.

Rafael said...

Donald Trump - Mar a Lago

OKC Teacher said...

I keep thinking of Texas, they recently discovered a Mass Grave containing bones of former slaves & inmates.
When I went to google it to see where in Texas, I read apparently it’s not uncommon to find mass graves in that state.
A lot of Powerful people live and visit there.

BRAD PITT said...

after marlon brando died his house was purchased by jack nicholson for $6m

the shining star had it demolished out of respect for marlon's legacy

i believe it was a cover up .. brando was a pedo

Itttt said...

"Superficially there is nothing remarkable about the three acres. It is empty wilderness that is parched dry much like the rest of the vast property."

To add to the discussion - in particular regarding the climate and fauna of the southwest especially the Chaparral climate of Cali/Socal - it is very arid with periods of heavy winter/spring rains. We have been in a multiyear drought despite heavy winter/spring rains the past couple of years.

In fact, the past El Nino/La Nina heavy rain weather period was a couple of years ago, I believe ending in 2016. While there were heavy rains this past winter which followed the massive Santa Barbara wildfire, causing massive mud and land flows, IIRC there were also similar weather effects the previous year, which would align with the start period of the animals scattering bones all over this particular area 18 months ago.

These heavy rains in the arid southwest often cause flash floods and are known to move tremendous amounts of dirt and rock. It could very well be that the graves/cadavers were exposed by such storms and heavy rains, allowing either scavengers or osteophagic herbivores such as deer or cattle much easier access to them/their contents.

We also have had a huge population explosion of coyotes in recent years, which are more than happy to play with and chew on 25 year old bones. There are also black bears, mountain lions, and even the occasional wild/feral dogs & hogs who may show interest.

I like the MJ/Lisa Marie Presley/RKelly guess for this. Neverland Ranch is YUUUUUUGE (roughly 3000 acres) of mostly parched dry wilderness. Must be minimal security at best nowadays (outside of the Blind's 3 acres, purportedly). Not to mention the poor homeless orphan street urchins, I mean this is NEVERLAND we are talking about, literally the physical manifestation of the Peter Pan's Neverland. MJ no doubt would have no interest in the female tweens, so it would be a perfect "gift" to hand them over to R Kelly in return for songs/lyrics that MJ was in desperate need of "about 25 years ago".

The Hearst Ranch would be a good fit for the property description as well as it is MASSIVE and a cattle ranch to boot, however William Randolph Hearst died in '51 and I don't think any of his offspring could come anywhere close to A++ list. Reagan ranch would fit but given his and Nancy's age, no chance. Sinatra hit that many years before.

Itttt said...

"We also have had a huge population explosion of coyotes in recent years, which are more than happy to play with and chew on 25 year old bones. There are also black bears, mountain lions, and even the occasional wild/feral dogs & hogs who may show interest."

Particularly given the drought conditions and overdevelopment have severely restricted their traditional food sources.

Original Unknown skeptic said...
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Original Unknown skeptic said...

Ugh the nuts always bring her up dontcha know she’s behind everything?

Original Unknown skeptic said...

@plot google is correct animals will scatter bones for decades after that part could be accurate. Still dies t mean this is true.

Original Unknown skeptic said...

What? I don’t think you have the details correct at all. I think you need to go back and read the blind again.

Original Unknown skeptic said...

It’s not only 3 acres. This is what it says:
“Over the past several months, three attempts have been made by two different freelance journalists to access a three acre section of a multiple acre property still owned by the family of an A++ lister.”
That is if it’s true.

Original Unknown skeptic said...

This might be my favorite line:
“This wildlife expert was not asked to sign a NDA because the owners didn't think there was going to be a reason to have one signed so the expert investigated without having to keep their results secret. “

If there was any doubt before that this was bullshit this line should leave you with no doubt. I’m pretty sure no court in the country would enforce an NDA on someone for reporting finding bones on a property and a suspected murder. Sorry, but I’m not buying it. An NDA doesn’t cover illegal activity and would never be enforced to do so.

Muckduck said...

I live near Memphis..in the summer it can get very dry..and iirc there is part of Graceland that is fenced off...

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