Today's Blind Items - He Pushed Her Off The Wagon
Back in the day when this blind occurred our actor was probably B+ list and mostly movies. Now, he is probably close to A+ list on television and A- in the movies. A++ name recognition. People tend to forget that the married actor previously went through a string of women. A very long string. Much like his personality now, he was not very nice to women he dated, but one example of his behavior really shows you what an a-hole he is and could be. He was dating an actress. Mostly movie. Academy Award winner/nominee. Despite her acclaim she has never really been above a B list. Her name gives her more of a boost than her acting resume. It is a name filled with acting and represents all the things wrong with Hollywood too. Our actress was divorced and out of rehab and sober and doing pretty well. As well as could be expected. She was a few months sober when she ran into our actor. Literally. They recognized each other and chatted each other up and a few hours later were in bed together. Our actor offered the actress a drink and she declined. She explained her sobriety and our actor said he wanted her to succeed. All words. He was always drinking around her and they would attend parties where there was a lot of coke use and if she said anything or complained he would tell her to leave, but he was staying. There were many times he told her one drink wouldn't hurt or that one line wasn't going to push her over the edge. It was just relentless pressure because he didn't want people to think he was dating someone damaged. She finally caved and went on a bender for six months. Our actor found someone else within a week or two of her losing her sobriety and dumped our actress. He dumped the next actress almost as badly, but that is a blind for another day.
73 comments:
I'm thinking Alec Baldwin.
Michael Douglas and ???
Fuck you Charlie Sheen for doing this!
Kiefer S? :(
I'm going to say Marisa Tomei for the actress
Alec dated a Tatum in 2002
I like the Alec guess and he did date Tatum O'Neill who was an Oscar winner and who's name is synonymous with all things bad in Hollywood, drugs, alcohol, etc
LOL @Wiglet
or perhaps an actress of colour. Like Angela Basset. What is wrong with Hollywood---it being racist etc....
Mr. Considerate
Angela Basset seems like a very strong person and never heard she had alcohol issues.
Sheen and ?? If it were more recent I'd throw Lohan under this BL bus.
Sheen. Preston? Sheen. Locklear
Tatum is not wrong with Hollywood. Hollywood is what is wrong with Tatum. The actress either is not very conventionally attractive or someone who is not represented enough in Hwood
I think this is definitely Alec. Sheen is not an A list movie actor anymore.
Now as far as the actress...I got nothing.
according to Alec 's g/f list following Tatum came Kim Basinger and marriage and we know how wonderfully that turned out.
Bacon...Kevin Bacon. If it's not Kevin...then it's someone who is at least 6 degrees from him.
Oh snap, Montana! I never get to squeak by you!
I was thinking Sheen or Ashton (and thought it was going to fit Brittany Murphy), but I'm on board with the Alec and Tatum guess. Don't hate on Tatum, though, because she was quite the actor long ago.
Wait a minute....EVERY recovering person knows you remove the people that are bad in your life. No matter how much you love them you must love yourself first. They don't love you if they let you slip back into addiction/alcoholism.
The guy may have been a jerk of the first order but she is the only responsible for her actions.
Doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for her however.
Alec Baldwin was in She's Having A Baby with Kevin Bacon.
Boom! one degree and done.
I agree with Sherry.
A Listers need girls who can drink and blow.
I'm going to have to reread Tatum's biography and see if there is any hidden dirt re: this blind somewhere. I think this is her.
Tom Arnold and Rosanne Barr. Duhhh!
I change my mind...Alec Baldwin and Tatum O'Neal.
Kevin Bacon would never :)
@rajahcat...I agree. Bad guess on my part...plus he's been married so long, I don't even know if there was anyone else before Keira.
@Sherry Abso-fecking-lutely!!
Goddammit, you people, I have never driven anyone off the wagon in my life! (I've also never scored with any lovely low-self-esteem celebrity girls either, Goddammit!)
Okay, seriously: "Her name ...is a name filled with acting and represents all the things wrong with Hollywood too."
The only precursor Tatum O'Neil has in the acting world is her father, who was never seen as much of a talent or an emblem of acting.
Think about it: An actress whose name speaks of ACTING as a long train of famous heritage, and that name is also connected to all the seaminess that Hollywood engenders.
That has got to be Drew Barrymore. There's a name that's an acting institution, with a heritage and history going back to the very beginnings of Hollywood.
So, who was with her at a time when she was recently sober, until she fell off the wagon, and is a pretty big name right now?
Drew Barrymore and ?
Let's say you meet someone who would really like it if you kept him company while he was murdering people and eventually asked you to join in. So you do. Looks like fun & he's really such a fabulous catch, otherwise.
That's on you. All you, nobody but you.
Legally, morally, ethically, psychologically, emotionally, all the *ly*s.
No one's responsible for you but you. People who refuse to accept that are Lindsay Lohan.
Drew Barrymore is who I thought of with that name thing too, but she hasn't ever been nominated for an academy award has she? Unless ET??? I'm too lazy too look it up.
Sherry - I agree with you. First thing in recovery - only YOU are responsible for your actions and no one can MAKE you feel or do anything- you let them.
That being said, he sure was doing his best to help her make really shitty decisions. I hate people like that.
None of these guesses for the actor would be A plus TV and A minus movies.
That being said, I can't figure it out either.
Tatum's mother and grandmother were actresses, so while they aren't the Barrymores or Redgraves, it should be enough for Tatum to be the subject of this blind.
Surely Drew is A-list, though?
It is a name filled with acting and represents all the things wrong with Hollywood
---K so I don't understand this sentence.
Zach, her mother and grandmother are named...?
It doesn't say "She's from a family filled with acting and representing all the things wrong with Hollywood," it says that her name is "filled with acting and represents all the things wrong with Hollywood." That's a very specific thing -- that name must be a legendary and iconic one stretching back through the history of movies and acting.
Tatum, whose father might be the worst person in Hollywood history.
drew never been nominated for an oscar
I thought Drew also, but she drinks and even owns a winery. Besides the no Oscar part.
Drew Barrymore has never won or been nominated for Academy Awards, and anyway she was A list. Tatum fits, can't really imagine anyone else who fits even remotely.
This absolutely reads like Drew as the woman who went on a bender. As for the guy ? No clue :-/
i don't think this is Drew. The blind says "It was just relentless pressure because he didn't want people to think he was dating someone damaged"
Drew started going to rehab when she was a young teen. I think it was common knowledge pretty early on that she was damaged.
No?
i don't think this is Drew. The blind says "It was just relentless pressure because he didn't want people to think he was dating someone damaged"
Drew started going to rehab when she was a young teen. I think it was common knowledge pretty early on that she was damaged.
No?
I go with the Tatum guess. I really enjoyed her book. Poor thing.
Tatum's mom was Joanna Moore. I'm blanking on her grandmother?
ITA with Sherry. This guy sucks, but he did NOT "push her off the wagon."
I love Tatum, but sadly, I think she fits. Drew's name legacy fits better, though, maybe. Hell, I don't know. :-/
Drew Barrymore and Jack Nicholson
Exactly Sherry
Kevin Bacon was the first name that popped into my mind because of Enty's ratings, but he's not a known jerk.
I think the Alec/Tatum guess is the winner.
What about Mariel Hemingway??
I was thinking drew too
Drew is well above B status.
Ryan O'Neal was huge in the late 60's, early 70's, so Tatum *could* work.. "name... represents all the things wrong with Hollywood" could be Ryan's behavior, Redmond's drug issues, Griffin O'Neal and Ryan's fighting...
OR, if you really want to look at "her name gives her more of a boost than acting": what about Muriel or Margaux Hemingway?
I just don't want it to be Drew.
JTM, I hadn't read your response when I posted mine, but I agree, either her or Margaux... I kind of like Mariel....
FWIW Alec B's been sober for a while.
I totally think there is nothing about this that doesn't fit Alec Baldwin and Tatum O'Neal. He's married, A+ list on television, A- movies, and has A++ name recognition.
Tatum is mostly movie, Academy Award winner, but never rose above B list. Her father is Ryan Fucking O'Neal and he was HUGE in the Love Story era, and is also rumored to be the worst human beings alive, yet he is never been prosecuted for his alleged crimes because he's a famous actor and has some serious connections to people in power. Tatum has documented hard drug problems and relapses.
I'm convinced.
Doesn't anyone remember "Ryan Fucking Oneal?"
Tatum O'Neal was a child teen actress. She won an academy award @10.
Then , there was Bad News Bears and Little Darlings..then she married MacEnroe, and you know how That turned out...
Alec and Tatum for the win!
Daddy is what was wrong with Tatum.
Alec also dated Alley Sheedy as well as Tatum but Alley not A A nominated.
If you're ever afraid of getting pushed off the Wagon stay away from those Amish assholes. They will fuck you over for good. And once you leave their Wagon they won't take you back.
Ex. Demi Lovato and Wilmar.
Oooh. You mean Khloe Kardashian?
When has Jack done TV except reruns on Turner family classics??
Which Hemingway killed themselves? Oh wait. All of them. Never mind.
Noooo. ALEC is back in the coke.
What about McDreamy from Grey's Anatomy?
Mr. John Wayne. Way back in the good old days, it was uncommon that rugged, manly men the time to mollycoddle a woman by consideration of such personal problems. It was her problem, not his.
Jude Law
So I think Tatum is a good guess. Drew is a good guess too, but unless she went to rehab again, post Tom green, then it doesn't work. However, didn't she date the Fabio musician that Misha Barton dated? He seemed dicey and not sober
Mira Sorvino---academy award winner and big holllywood family
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