What Is Worse Than Molesting Young Boys?
Yesterday, some transcripts from an interview with Anthony Pellicano were released. Pellicano is in jail because he basically tapped the phone of everyone in Hollywood. Unlike Rupert Murdoch or anyone in the News Corp organization, Pellicano is actually serving time for what he did. Not that I am a fan of the guy at all. He teased one very interesting thing and I have been trying to think what it could be. He said that he dropped Michael Jackson as a client because he would not work for Michael if he found out Michael was guilty of molesting kids. He also said that he quit not only because of that, but because "Michael did something far worse than molesting young boys." What could be worse? Was he selling them? Passing them around to his friends? Filming them? What exactly do you think could be worse than molesting young kids? There are not too many things on that list, but Pellicano apparently found something.
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Torturing and killing them is worse than simply molesting, but even then it's a judgement call.
I think Pellicano is a egomaniac, psychopath..I was subpoenaed to be a witness in the O.J. trial and he worked for the prosecution..he made life a stressful hell for me for awhile..he's a crazy ass bully
And he didn't report this or use it to make a deal....
a document of FBI said Mickael Jackson's molesting story was untrue
and if Pellicano said me the sky was blue, i shouldn't believe it
@nataliesinger
Wow. Subpoenaed at the O.J trial. That's not something you hear everyday. Is that ever neat.
^^Sue Ellen..it's not something I say everyday either but thought it was apropos to the post. He's scary and ruthless.
just assuming what he's saying is true, even though it might not be - maybe drugging them or getting them drunk beforehand is worse, in Pellicano's view.
He married into Scientology...
@robert -
Scientology? that explains a lot.
Not to pick at your headline too much, but I'd say molesting young *girls* is equally bad.
Exactly what MISCH said.
Threatening, torturing, drugging, molesting, and then threatening again? Perhaps killing? I do believe MJ molested little boys and he got away with it because he is a celebrity, imho.
I would read Pellicano's book (if it ever came out). I've heard things going 20 plus years back (prior to jail), and some of the stories go back 30 years. Yep, I'd read it.
I think that's Ent's lawyer way of saying "all of the above".
One of the stories I found interesting was when he wiretapped the house of a couple whose daughter was kidnapped or missing, this was when he worked for the FBI(I think), because of the wiretapping the police could not get an indictment against the parents. But what I want to know is what happened to the little girl and what was heard on the tapes?
And considering how many male producers regularly do all these things with barely legal females fresh to Hollywood, not hard to believe a celebrity with a billion could get away with it for the underaged.
What Is Worse Than Molesting Young Boys?
The only thing worse is killing.
A few years ago I was in California and my brother took me up in his plane and we flew over MJ's Never Never Land ranch and the lake/pond/whatever outside his home was green with dis-use and neglect and I couldn't have been more glad. What a dirt-bag.
Because of different things I've read, I have been rethinking my belief that Michael was guilty of molestation. Hmmmm....
I don't want to even guess at what Pelicano may believe is worse than molesting young boys.
Sorry, I don't believe a word out of this jerk's mouth. Then again, I'm one of those who doesn't believe that Michael Jackson ever actually molested kids, either. *shrug*
I was bothered by the trivial way he reduced molestation of children. I dunno if Im just being sensitive but to even weigh out in your mind the actions of molestation and then play the game of what YOU think is worse or better, seems...I dunno, definitely ego-maniacal and just plain sleezy.
^I never thought Michael did it either RocketQueen
@Jasmine and Rocket Queen -- I hate to say that I *do* believe the allegations against Michael Jackson. There were more than a few young witnesses who could correctly identify peculiar markings around MJ's genital area. Not to say that they weren't instructed to say those things, but that was pretty damning to me, at least.
And I just think it's weird when an adult is *that* obsessed with children and childhood in general - -even though I know Michael never really got to experience his own, and was maybe making up for it later in life.
Love the man's music -- and I always will -- but I think he was a deeply, deeply sketchy human being.
@Ida- "There were more than a few young witnesses who could correctly identify peculiar markings around MJ's genital area."
Ewwwww, I didnt know that!
Whoa
Not that I don't believe you, Ida, but can you provide a link? I've never heard that before. I think there are a lot of things that explain his interest and preference to be around children. That doesn't make him a molester.
I'm convinced Michael was a messed-up human being, but I'm not convinced he was a child molester.
I think MJ wanted to much to have his childhood back that he acted like a 13-year old around all those kids--which meant he was irresponsible, giggly, sneaking alcohol, looking at porn sites for the thrill, eating as much candy as he possibly could, etc.--in other words, acting like a kid. Which would have been fine if he'd done in alone, except he did it around other kids (probably to feel even MORE like a kid). So any kids who could describe his penis probably saw it as a result of "young boy/normal adolescent behavior" and not actual pedophile behavior.
That being said...could Pellicano be referring to incest?
The mere fact that he didn't report anything he supposedly knew discredits him immediately in my eyes.
Crystalrope fTW
I'm torn on whether he was a child molester as well - my thought is that he did not have any understanding of proper boundaries with children. Even if they just slept in his bed and had cookies and read stories - if I were a parent, I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with my kid spending the night at a grown man's house no matter the activities. I think MJ just did not understand why it wasn't right for him to be spending all that time with children, and I think he sometimes crossed a line between a normal adult-child relationship and the somewhat inappropriate. But I don't think he raped or molested anyone.
MJ probably didn't pay him or something, and that's what he's thinking is worse than molesting kids. I'm one of those ones who just doesn't know re: the molestation allegations. I hope not.
I don't believe MJ molested any children. I think he only saw and suffered from horrible actions by adults growing up and as a celebrity and as a result, he wanted to surround himself with only innocence and happiness which is what children exude.
I recall what Ida is referring to, but I seem to remember that allegation was bogus, wish I could recall why and provide a link...
"So any kids who could describe his penis probably saw it as a result of "young boy/normal adolescent behavior" and not actual pedophile behavior."
He was an adult. Plain and simple. It was wrong if it happened, nothing normal about it. I don't care how much he wanted to act like a kid, it's never okay for an adult man to show his penis to children.
When I was in grad school, I took a course on sexual deviants because I found it interesting. MJ was used as an example of the classic pedophile, showing many of the red flags that alert therapists to this type of behavior. I do believe he molested kids.
Worse than molesting children but short of murder? Trafficking in children. MJ traveled all over the globe for years and years. He was popular in areas of the world where organized child prostitution is not uncommon.
I don't know anyone would doubt that Pellicano would know a lot of secrets. He has mob and law enforcement ties going way back. It's pretty clear that he was wiretapping and investigating famous people for decades before he finally got busted.
I too believe that he molested children. If he wasn't a super star with a ton of money, and was just the guy that lived down the street--I bet everyone would be freaking at the idea of a grown man wanting to spend time with a group of kids that included sleep overs. Why is everyone so willing to accept the concept that because of his crappy childhood he was child like and reliving what he missed...yet no one else ever on this planet seems to have this same condition? This is a man who was savvy enough to sign multi million dollar recording contracts and buy up a whole whopping lot of Beatle music as an investment, so his childlike behavior and continual excuse that he was accused because of his money just doesn't ring true. Listen to a pedophile talk...and then listen to MJ talk in interviews--and tell me again why you think he is innocent of those charges.
Count me in with those who believe MJ was one messed up pedophile.
What is worse than diddling kids?
Diddling YOUR OWN KIDS. The boys, that is. Don't think he touched the girls.
Think about it. He got away with sleeping with (and even blabbing about it) other people's kids until he started getting sued and then criminally charged and then what did he do? Breed (or pay someone else to breed and then call him "his own") children so he could bloody well do whatever he wanted to.
THAT is what is worse!
I read a long article a long time ago in Vanity Fair that convinced me that michael's accusers were credible and that many people including housekeepers were paid off for the rest of their lives. I think michael acted like he was 14-a 14 yr old experimenting with others, that is. But he was an adult who had access to a lot of things that pushed him into the predator position.
Not sure if anyone who had questions about this will see this .. but here is the deal on the penis question - "A 1993 affidavit by a Sheriff's Department deputy also reported that Jordan claimed there was a splotch on Jackson's penis, "which is a light color similar to the color of his face",[21] but in a 2005 memorandum, Santa Barbara District Attorney Tom Sneddon stated that photos from the body search "substantially corroborated" Jordan's drawing of a "dark blemish" on Jackson's penis.[22] Dr. Richard Strick, who conducted the examination of Jackson's genitals, claimed, "I was told later that the photos and description absolutely matched"[23] but Sneddon only described the blemish imprecisely as being "at about the same relative location", with no further details about the blemish.[22]"
an independent psychologist stated in the trial that she/he believed MJ had the sexual maturity of a 11 yo boy and therefor was not capable of the molestation,in their opinion.
the first kid that accused him was paid off and has since tried to make amends with the Jacksons after several suicide attempts. He has since 'claimed' his parents put him up to it. i do not have a link but I *believe* I read it all in an letter that was sent to Harvey Levin when MJ died.
once you have one,it opens the door to lots more to take advantage.
I agree with Melanie about MJ being an adult. I'm not sure whether or not he molested kids, but his actions were inappropriate for his age. If a middle-age man is sleeping in the same bed with kids, who are not his own, there is something wrong with that. MJ freely admitted he liked to sleep with kids and act like he was 10. He did name his place Neverland.
I know if I was a young kid hanging out with a man MJ's age, I would be weirded out quite a bit.
What is worse than molesting young boys?
Forcing a young boy to molest another young boy.
If he had proof that MJ molested those boys he would have made good on his threat to MJ to expose him. I think this creep is just trying to manipulate the public and even celebs to "help" with his appeal. He is sending messages to everyone he has dirt on that he can still ruin them. Enty needs to get access to his tapes (video and audio). Wouldn't the Freedom of Information Act allow the release of this information?
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